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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 944 / August 2005

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Online - 12 Jul 2005 12:46 GMT
I keep my 944 in the garage and I always get a lot of gas fumes as it sits
there for a few hours. But when I look, there are no leaks to be found but
it sure smells like I have some even though none seems to be
missing....drives me crazy...any ideas?
Chicago Paddling-Fishing - 12 Jul 2005 12:56 GMT
: I keep my 944 in the garage and I always get a lot of gas fumes as it sits
: there for a few hours. But when I look, there are no leaks to be found but
: it sure smells like I have some even though none seems to be
: missing....drives me crazy...any ideas?

Just after a fillup or all the time?  There is a overflow tube that runs
from near your cap, thru the rear passenger side wheelwell that could be
pulled out of the drain hole, causing overflow gas to end up inside your
fender until it evaporates...

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Online - 12 Jul 2005 19:05 GMT
No, it's all the time... and no matter what the level of gas is in the
tank...
I was having a DME issue... I am starting to think it may have the fuel pump
charged all the time...not sure if that would cause these major fumes or
not.....???  Strange.

> : I keep my 944 in the garage and I always get a lot of gas fumes as it
> sits
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> pulled out of the drain hole, causing overflow gas to end up inside your
> fender until it evaporates...
Chicago Paddling-Fishing - 12 Jul 2005 21:30 GMT
: No, it's all the time... and no matter what the level of gas is in the
: tank...
: I was having a DME issue... I am starting to think it may have the fuel pump
: charged all the time...not sure if that would cause these major fumes or
: not.....???  Strange.

Well, if it was draining the excess into the rear fenderwell, you'd have
fumes all the time, just strongest when you filled up... after all, get it
on your hands and wipe it off... the oder is still there...

One thing I don't hear them advertising much is if your in a area with RFG
gas, it's supposed to cause fuel lines to become brittle... but only affecting
cars 10 or more years old...

:> Just after a fillup or all the time?  There is a overflow tube that runs
:> from near your cap, thru the rear passenger side wheelwell that could be
:> pulled out of the drain hole, causing overflow gas to end up inside your
:> fender until it evaporates...

http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/gas%5Fqanda/reform.shtml

Bullet #3 says;
* The rubber that is used in fuel system parts, such as seals and hoses,
 may shrink, swell, or lose strength when exposed to RFG. This reaction
 could cause fuel system leaks in a very small percentage of vehicles.
 Because RFG differs only slightly from the gasoline that you have used
 in the past, auto manufacturers do not expect RFG to cause fuel system
 leaks in the majority of vehicles, particularly newer vehicles. However,
 if your vehicle is older (more than 10 years old) or has high mileage (more
 than 100,000 miles), you may be at greater risk of developing a fuel leak.
 Because fuel leaks can cause vehicle fires, Chevron recommends that you
 consult a qualified auto repair technician to discuss whether your fuel
 system parts should be checked for repair or replacement. If you suspect a
 form of leakage, which can often be detected by smelling gasoline at times
 other than when fueling, consult a qualified auto repair technician
 immediately. Do not drive a vehicle with a fuel system leak.--

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doug - 13 Jul 2005 05:10 GMT
also check the fuel tank sender gasket,  the screws have a tendency to
loosen and the gasket ages, will let fumes vent into the back

>: No, it's all the time... and no matter what the level of gas is in the
>: tank...
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Online - 13 Jul 2005 14:51 GMT
Those were great suggestions. Infact I spent most of my eve last night
hunting those down, but neither seem to be the issue. I work for a petroleum
company and forwarded your article to another department but they quickly
replied...we don't have the same issues. The fuel sender area looks clean
and tight. Gaskets are solid and no leaking. The fumes can not be dtected
directly...it seems to be a buil up over time...like overnight...when I open
the garge..woooo...stink.  Taking it to the shop next week...will have to
get them to look for the mystery..

Thanks again!

> also check the fuel tank sender gasket,  the screws have a tendency to
> loosen and the gasket ages, will let fumes vent into the back
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Chicago Paddling-Fishing - 13 Jul 2005 20:49 GMT
: Those were great suggestions. Infact I spent most of my eve last night
: hunting those down, but neither seem to be the issue. I work for a petroleum
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: the garge..woooo...stink.  Taking it to the shop next week...will have to
: get them to look for the mystery..

Well, it's not my web page, it's chevron.com, and since RFG is a federally
mandated formula, my understanding is, if you sell in a RFG market, what
your selling is identical to what the other companys are selling... hence the
federally mandated formula... may explain the rash of car-b-ques on Chicago
area highways...

Anyway... maybe it's not a gas smell... have you checked the crank case
recirculatory connection on the t-belt cover?  There was a TSB related to
it and it should be capped shut, not connected via hose to the air filter
anymore...

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Dawgz83944 - 14 Aug 2005 08:35 GMT
"" wrote:
> I keep my 944 in the garage and I always get a lot of gas
> fumes as it sits
> there for a few hours. But when I look, there are no leaks to
> be found but
> it sure smells like I have some even though none seems to be
> missing....drives me crazy...any ideas?

Didja look under the rear of the car around where the outlet is for
the gas tank. Mine was seeping from there but you had to look close to
find it. It’s like a $30 part for the fuel screen. Or a $5 Oring..
Boue - 18 Aug 2005 04:19 GMT
Je crois que le problème est une hose branchée sur le "canister" sous l'aile
avant gauche...   Elles finissent par sécher et se romprent...

> "" wrote:
> > I keep my 944 in the garage and I always get a lot of gas
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> the gas tank. Mine was seeping from there but you had to look close to
> find it. It's like a $30 part for the fuel screen. Or a $5 Oring..
 
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