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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 944 / September 2005

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Shifter Problem with 944 S2 NA

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Moving On in SC USA - 28 Sep 2005 02:01 GMT
i am the proud owner of a restored (not restored by me) 1990, 944 s2 na with
144K miles.  in this car i was xing a railroad xing and slowed and went to
2nd gear to pull away when across, all was ok.  but, when pulling away, as i
went to shift from 2nd into 3rd, seems like my shift lever separated from
"the intermediate shift lever assembly (?)".  i am stuck in 2nd gear and had
to have a tow home. now, when i move the shift lever forwared, it moves
"freely" i can hear the bottom end contacting something as it (the bottom
end of the lever) moves rearward.  i haven't had time yet to jack the car
and inspect the situation but i would like to hear from someone as to if my
suspicions may be correct and if so, what parts may be required for repair
and where might i find the parts; i am located in south carolina.

thanks in advance
lannie
william_b_noble - 28 Sep 2005 06:57 GMT
on my 85.5 (not quite the same car), the "fixed" part of the linkage, a
pivot point, to be exact, that is above the trans cracked in half causing
this effect - it was a $30 part and about an hour on my back to change it.

>i am the proud owner of a restored (not restored by me) 1990, 944 s2 na
>with
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> thanks in advance
> lannie
Moving On in SC USA - 28 Sep 2005 07:40 GMT
tks very much for the fast response...after reading your post, i went out
and checked the shifter for any upward motion (play) etc, and it seems as if
the pivot point is still intact and functional...after consulting "Clarks"
and just by "the feel of it" i believe the socket connection on the bottom
of the shifter is where my problem is probably located.  may be a bushing
problem (but this is not a 968s), a broken ball connector or the maybe
ball/socket a.s'bly. has come loose at some point.  too late and too dark
now to fool with it but you bet i will be out there at first light with the
jack stands in hand and finding out!  will post my findings and solutions as
soon as i have them.
BTW, did you get your part from porsche or aftermarket?  again, many thanks!
lannie

> on my 85.5 (not quite the same car), the "fixed" part of the linkage, a
> pivot point, to be exact, that is above the trans cracked in half causing
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> > thanks in advance
> > lannie
william_b_noble - 29 Sep 2005 03:10 GMT
I got my parts for the shifter from porsche - they are not too expensive
(yet).  pivot under the shifter is easy to check, just lift the outer and
inner boots and look
> tks very much for the fast response...after reading your post, i went out
> and checked the shifter for any upward motion (play) etc, and it seems as
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>> > thanks in advance
>> > lannie
doug - 29 Sep 2005 03:42 GMT
to get to the shifter things you have to remove the plastic section
surrounding the leather boot, and go in from above.    you can't get to
it from under the car, the exhaust and torque tube are in the way.

>tks very much for the fast response...after reading your post, i went out
>and checked the shifter for any upward motion (play) etc, and it seems as if
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>  
william_b_noble - 29 Sep 2005 06:17 GMT
note that there are 3 places where this symptom could occur - at the base of
the shift lever (see below), where the shifter tube connects to the linkage
at the front of the trans (a bolt can loosen and decople the two), or the
support I described that is on top of the trans - on my 85.5, that support
was sheet metal and it fatigued and cracked in half, so that side to side
motion of hte lever was not transmitted to the trans.  the replacement part
was an aluminum casting.

> to get to the shifter things you have to remove the plastic section
> surrounding the leather boot, and go in from above.    you can't get to
> it from under the car, the exhaust and torque tube are in the way.
Moving On in SC USA - 30 Sep 2005 02:42 GMT
tks folks for all the advice.  all was very helpful and right-on.

after finding out the old fashion way that "under the car" is not the way to
go, i went to clark's and looked up and printed out the shifter procedures
and commenced to follow them.  clark's is bitchin!

the results: turned out to be the shift lever pin was worn transversely into
an egg shape, the "c" clip was completely worn away (only metal dust left)
and the "c" clip groove was almost completely worn away!  as a result of the
wear the shift lever pin had slipped out of the shifter rod boss.  i did
however, recover the inside compression washer.  slipped it all back
together and it looks as if its gonna work ok until i get a replacement
shifter (provided i let 'stangs and transies off the hook for a while).
most likley the thing has held together for quite a while on it's own.

again, thanks all!!

lannie

> i am the proud owner of a restored (not restored by me) 1990, 944 s2 na with
> 144K miles.  in this car i was xing a railroad xing and slowed and went to
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> thanks in advance
> lannie
william_b_noble - 30 Sep 2005 03:22 GMT
buy a new shift lever from Porsche - about $30 as I recall, also see if you
can get a bushing to fit in the hole in the shift rod - it will be highly
oval also - you can drill it larger and then put in a brass/bronze bushing
and and get rid of a lot of slop that will otherwise be left - if you don't
want to do that, you can use JB weld or a similar substance and either drill
it, or oil the new lever's pin and push it through (the epoxy won't stick to
the oil).  Be sure to grease the pin/bushing.

This is also a hint that you go around your car and check other linkages and
oil as appropriate (the clutch pivot comes to mind).  My car made it past
250K without this part wearing noticably, but that was a lot of freeway
driving.

good luck

bill
> tks folks for all the advice.  all was very helpful and right-on.
>
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> lannie
Moving On in SC USA - 30 Sep 2005 04:06 GMT
tks for the hints bill, and...i will check it all!  i have access to a
machinist friend that can make a slip fit bushing for me as long as i mic
and draw it and supply him with the specs. so i think that's the way i'll go
(do it right).
lannie
> buy a new shift lever from Porsche - about $30 as I recall, also see if you
> can get a bushing to fit in the hole in the shift rod - it will be highly
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> >
> > lannie
 
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