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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 944 / October 2005944 S2 Boot does not open with key
.. but does from the lever near the passenger seat. No whirring response when the key is inserted but there is with the lever. Any help appreciated... don't know for sure on S2, but on all others I've worked on, the motor operates from the push button by your feet, and the key operates the mechanism mechanically, not electrically. Perhaps a slightly more detailed post would get better diagnostics - for example, does the key turn in the lock or not? > .. but does from the lever near the passenger seat. > > No whirring response when the key is inserted but there is with the lever. > > Any help appreciated... > don't know for sure on S2, but on all others I've worked on, the motor > operates from the push button by your feet, and the key operates the > mechanism mechanically, not electrically. Perhaps a slightly more detailed > post would get better diagnostics - for example, does the key turn in the > lock or not? My 2.7 does both electrically, and there are instructions in the car's manual for manually opening the tailgate from inside the car in case of a flat battery. Pull back the rear carpet & between the lock (middle) & motor (approx. where the 944 badge is on the right) there is a black cable that you can pull to release the pins. I imagine it's pretty hard to reach from inside the car with the tailgate shut though ;-) It may be that the lock is also mechanically connected (never had a flat battery so I don't know for sure), but the pin release mechanism 'cycles' when I turn the key just the same as when I push the footwell button. Malc. > > .. but does from the lever near the passenger seat. > > > > No whirring response when the key is inserted but there is with the lever. > > > > Any help appreciated... =============================================== * Reply by Jack D. Russell, Sr. <jackru$$ell2@notmail.com> * Newsgroup: alt.autos.porsche.944 * Reply to: All; "Malc" <malc@belper.plus.con> * Date:Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:22:10 -0500 * Subj: Re: 944 S2 Boot does not open with key ===================================================== M>"william_b_noble" <william_b_noble@nowhere.com> wrote in message M>news:1128563668.ed15aa5e820875ad0fa60cfd67c2c769@teranews... >> don't know for sure on S2, but on all others I've worked on, the >> motor operates from the push button by your feet, and the key >> operates the mechanism mechanically, not electrically. Perhaps a >> slightly more detailed post would get better diagnostics - for >> example, >> does the key turn in the lock or not? M>My 2.7 does both electrically, and there are instructions in the M>car's manual for manually opening the tailgate from inside the car M>in case of a flat battery. M>Pull back the rear carpet & between the lock (middle) & motor M>(approx. where the 944 badge is on the right) there is a black M>cable that you can pull to release the pins. I imagine it's pretty M>hard to reach from inside the car with the tailgate shut though ;-) M>It may be that the lock is also mechanically connected (never had a M>flat battery so I don't know for sure), but the pin release mechanism 'cycles' M>when I turn the key just the same as when I push the footwell button. FWIW...My 87 works as William Noble describes. Electrically via the lever in the footwell, mechanically via the key. With the hatch opened, insert the key and turn it. Watch to see that the locks on either side retract. May just need lubricated. Good luck.  SignatureJack I wouldn't be too surprised to see that the S2 went all electric - one could find out by reading hte service manual of course. What really bugs me is the electrification of all sorts of things that not only don't need to be electric, but that are actually worse when electirc. Taking my 993 as an example (compared to the 944), we have electric seats in both, but in the 993, the fore/aft and recline is also electric - that makes it slower to adjust the seat, and it is more stuff to break, and it's heavier - there is only disadvantages - one can pull a lever and push with the feet to slide the seat - and if you can't do that, DONT DRIVE. I fear that the electric trunk lock may be another example. my worst example (on the 993) is the stupid electric top, but that is a complaint for another forum.... soon there will be electric gas doors - oh yeah, the japanese cars have that too. AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!! > =============================================== > M>"william_b_noble" <william_b_noble@nowhere.com> wrote in message > M>news:1128563668.ed15aa5e820875ad0fa60cfd67c2c769@teranews... [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > the key and turn it. Watch to see that the locks on either side retract. > May just need lubricated. Good luck. No, the S2 is not all electric. (Unless mine is different because it is a Cab). The rear lock is still mechanical. If it is turning you need a new mechanism. If it is stuck, lube it. >I wouldn't be too surprised to see that the S2 went all electric - one >could find out by reading hte service manual of course. What really bugs [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> the key and turn it. Watch to see that the locks on either side retract. >> May just need lubricated. Good luck. I have the same problem with the 1989 944 S2 I just bought. Turning the key causes a mechanical cam to engage a an electric microswitch, which makes everybody right, to a degree. I still haven't isolated my problem but when I do, I'll let you know. SignatureI put junk in my email address to evade the spammers. Please take the junk out before replying. Sorry for the inconvenience. Jim > .. but does from the lever near the passenger seat. > > No whirring response when the key is inserted but there is with the lever. > > Any help appreciated... Thanks for the posts - in reply: The key turns but NOTHING happens - no whirring, no lever movement - nothing! It does open OK using the lever in the passenger footwell. Cheers > .. but does from the lever near the passenger seat. > > No whirring response when the key is inserted but there is with the lever. > > Any help appreciated... Same problem. My 1989 944 S2 an electro-mechanical actuaror for the tailgate. Turning the key causes a white plastic cam to turn and engage the lever of a microswitch that, when closed, does what the switch in the drivers compartment. I finally figured out what was wrong with mine. It turned out to be the microswitch. I was lucky thought, and you might want to try this, the lever was not bent enough to completely depress the microswitch. I bent it to cause the cam to depress it fully, and now it works. By the way, this portion of the electrical wiring is shown on sheet 7 of the wiring diagram in the Porsche repair manual. I purchased a CD with both the parts manual and the repair manual on ebay. I think it was around $40. The only problem is that you can not do a word search in the repair manual, since each page is a photocopy saved in pdf format. You can word searcd the parts manual, however. SignatureI put junk in my email address to evade the spammers. Please take the junk out before replying. Sorry for the inconvenience. Jim > Thanks for the posts - in reply: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> Any help appreciated... Had the same problem on my '90 951; had me stumped for ages. The microswitch tested O.K., but wouldn't activate the motor to release the lock pins. I removed the little electric motor, popped off the plastic cover, cleaned all the grease off the contacts and it works perfectly. 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