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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 944 / January 2006

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failed smog test --- high NOx

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rbnoble@hotmail.com - 22 Dec 2005 10:04 GMT
I have a late 1985 Porsche 944. It recently failed a California smog
test -
nitrogen oxides too high.

The test results are as follows:

        at 15 mph    at 25 mph
        (1818 rpm)    (2021 rpm)

%CO2        14.7        14.8
%O2        0.2         0.1

HC (ppm)
Max.        135         110
Ave.        41         29
Meas.          130          85

CO (%)
Max.        0.83        0.44
Ave.        0.13        0.11
Meas.        0.63        0.34

NO (ppm)
Max.        1136          966
Ave.        399         332
Meas.        1135         1030  (FAIL)

where Max. = maximum allowable
    Ave. = average emisssons for passing vehicles
    Meas. = amount measured by test station

I have two questions:
First, what is the likely cause of the excess NOx, and what can be done
about it.

Second, does anyone know of a mechanic competent to look into this
matter who is close to me? I am in Santa Monica, California.

Thanks for your advice,

Bob Noble
rbnoble@hotmail.com
darthpup - 22 Dec 2005 13:37 GMT
There is an adjustment screw for idle air mixture  and a screw for idle
speed.
Check out www.clarks-garage.com for details.
PowerPROM@frwilk.com - 22 Dec 2005 22:47 GMT
Try FQS position #4
http://frwilk.com/944dme/fqswitch.htm

This will retard the ignition advance a few degrees and you should pass
easily. In the past month, I have advised two others with higher NOx
numbers than you and they both passed.
Cliff Hipsher - 28 Dec 2005 13:29 GMT
Typically, high NoX levels are caued by higher than normal combustion
chamber temperatures.  High combustion temperatures are usually the result
of a lean burn.  A lean burn can be caused by a malfunction with, or a
mis-adjustment of the engine management system, low fuel pressure, or an
intake/vacuum leak.

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'87 944 India Red
'86 951 Kalahari Metallic

>I have a late 1985 Porsche 944. It recently failed a California smog
> test -
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> Bob Noble
> rbnoble@hotmail.com
rbnoble@hotmail.com - 16 Jan 2006 10:17 GMT
High NOx problem solved!
My thanks to all those who offered advice.

As suggested by PowerP...@frwilk.com, I adjusted the FQS to position 4
(see http://frwilk.com/944dme/fqswitch.htm for details of switch
positions). I could not find the Bosch FQS tool so I made a tool from a
golf tee using a file and sandpaper. Worked.

My car is a late 1985 944 with 247,288 miles on the odometer. The
results of the failed smog test and the later passed test are indicated
below.

The test results of the failed test were as follows:

             at 15 mph        at 25 mph
             (1818 rpm)       (2021 rpm)

%CO2         14.7                 14.8
%O2           0.2                  0.1

HC (ppm)
Max.         135                  110
Ave.          41                   29
Meas.        130                   85

CO (%)
Max.        0.83                  0.44
Ave.        0.13                  0.11
Meas.       0.63                  0.34

NO (ppm)
Max.        1136                  966
Ave.         399                  332
Meas.       1135                 1030 (FAIL)

where Max. = maximum allowable
Ave. = average emisssons for passing vehicles
Meas. = amount measured by test station

The results of the test 1/13/06 (with FQS switch set to 4):

               at 15 mph       at 25 mph
               (1739 rpm)      (2031 rpm)

%CO2             14.5             14.6
%O2               0.5              0.2

HC (ppm)
Max.              135              110
Ave.               41               29
Meas.             116              109

CO (%)
Max.            0.83               0.63
Ave.            0.13               0.11
Meas.           0.39               0.33

NO (ppm)
Max.            1136               966
Ave.             399               332
Meas.            832               828 (PASS)
darthpup - 16 Jan 2006 15:38 GMT
You may have solved one problem and created another.  Do you understand
the impact of changing the setting with regard to combustion
temperature and how this could damage the engine?  I do not have the
answer, but if I were you I would set the computer back to position 0
and only change it when you go for inspections. Or leave it where it is
and see what happens.  What the hell, its just an engine.
 
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