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Car Forum / Porsche / Porsche Cars / December 2005porsche vs corvette
hi i'm relatively new to cars. isn't it hard to digest spending the cost of a porsche 911 turbo when a corvette has similar performance specs at 2/3 it's cost? whar do you guys makes of this... Don't know what years/model you are comparing but in general they are completely different cars in build quality and they way they perform. Spec "numbers" mean nothing. GP >hi >i'm relatively new to cars. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >whar do you guys makes of this... > hi > i'm relatively new to cars. > > isn't it hard to digest spending the cost of a porsche 911 turbo when a > corvette has similar performance specs at 2/3 it's cost? > ... It's what makes the world go 'round. Why would anyone own a Rolex when he could get a Casio that kept better time and cost about what it costs to ship a Rolex home for service. And no one would be inclined to hit him over the head to steal it. So why would anyone buy either a Corvette or a Porsche (note capitalizations) when a Corolla would get him there just as well with body and operator's permit intact, and no one would be inclined to hit him over the head to steal it. Beats me. Fred There is an old adage that still holds true... You get what you pay for. >> hi >> i'm relatively new to cars. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Fred >There is an old adage that still holds true... > >You get what you pay for. Too often in life, you don't get what you pay for. I suspect the old jazz saying is more on point: "If you don't get it, you'll never know." epbrown -- 2003 BMW 325i Black/Black 2003 BMW Z4 Black/Black I'll go for Allen Edmonds over Gucci anyday. Not the most expensive. Quality and performance is what counts > Quality < Well then I guess that rules out the Chevy! Say, anybody heard lately how they are doing financially? Think they have any job openings at some of the plants? > I'll go for Allen Edmonds over Gucci anyday. Not the most expensive. > Quality and performance is what counts I think the reason the Porsches cost so much is because they are made by Bavarian elfs and I hear they have a strong union. And besides, I think the Corvettes have more plastic in them. Ed > > hi > > i'm relatively new to cars. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Fred They do have more plastic and carbon fiber, from what I've read. Whats is the GT Carrerra made from? More simailar than not from the c6 z06 perhaps. That Z-06 with the Bilstein suspension package, the Bosch fuel injection and the 928 inspired transaxle? I hear they want to replace the checkered flag on the Corvette emblem with the German national flag! > They do have more plastic and carbon fiber, from what I've read. Whats > is the GT Carrerra made from? More simailar than not from the c6 z06 > perhaps. no, that WATER cooled V8 small block chevy normally aspirated 500+ HP is what provides the rush! And the thing gets 30 mpg on the highway. Actually that checkered flag has earned its place. All the C5 victories at Lemans, Daytona, every place it enters it wins. hows you used bmw? the new models are using run flats and stability controls The Porsche has better handeling... better quality overall I guess.. (Thanks to those Bavarian elfs..) I would never consider a Corvette.. they are cool etc.. but would never beat a Porsche on a track with proper curves. Kim 2003 911 & BMW 330 Convertible > The Porsche has better handeling... better quality overall I guess.. > (Thanks to those Bavarian elfs..) I would never consider a Corvette.. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Kim > 2003 911 & BMW 330 Convertible What it comes down to is quality and quantity. GM is not interested in the demographic that buys a Porsche. They market to Joe Six Pack with the promise of lot's of speed for low money. That is why in JD Power's most recent long term resale review the C-5 Corvette made the list for poor resale value. The car is very one dimensional. While the 911 not only made the list of top resale value leaders, but it's commitment to building the complete package of speed, handling, braking, comfort and overall quality is what sets it apart from the Corvette. Putting that aside...there are more Corvettes alone than every Porsche ever built combined! A hand built, low production number car will always command more than a mass produced assembly line car. One does have to hand it to Chevy to finally admit its errors and join the very successful 928/924/944/968 family in adding the front engine, rear transaxle design to their cars. Albeit 25 years late. One also has to hand it to Chevy for looking to Germany for their Bilstein suspension and leveling packages. Let's not leave out that Bosch fuel injection they are currently running. You have to admit it took guts for the "King of the American hill" to incorporate so much German technology into their cars, but you can't argue with the results. The problem is and will always be overall quality. As long as GM insists on cutting corners to keep the price down the Corvette will always viewed as a second tier choice in the world scheme. Are you Devils924 buddy? you guys sound alot alike. Look at the prices of used boxters. Read, find out the facts. Yes, I guess it is the US mfg's copying porsche by intalling WATER cooled front engine designs! I'm hoping Covette will offer hand painted center caps for $500 that will make the car perform on that top tier.. Isn't the Carrera GT a water cooled V motor witha NON-METALLIC body? Porsches first plastic car?? <Look at the prices of used boxters.> So you are saying you are proud of the fact that your flagship car is comparable to Porsches entry level car? Congratulations. <I'm hoping Covette will offer hand painted center caps for $500 that will make the car perform on that top tier.. > Corvettes aren't moving off the lot with $6000 rebates added, what makes you think that they could afford an accessory like that? <Isn't the Carrera GT a water cooled V motor witha NON-METALLIC body? Porsches first plastic car?? > There is a world of difference between the low grade fibreglass body of the Corvette (yet another cost saver) and the Porsche patented mono body carbon fibre body of the Carrera GT. The "Plastic Coffin" monkier given the Corvette comes from somewhere. Please educate yourself somewhat before posting your inane commentary here. <All the C5 victories at Lemans, Daytona, every place it enters it wins.> You do realize the Corvette has NEVER won LeMans, right? You do realize that Porsche has won LeMans 16 times, right? Corvette has won it's class 5 or 6 times with a Ferrari victory in there somewhere, but I mean the Porsche 924 has won that class before, it's not like Corvette has ever won the thing outright. Stick with fighting with the other rednecks about NASCAR victories and leave the real racing to the world class manufacturers, not the one laying off Americans by the thousands and losing billions of dollars a quarter. In the last 10 years the only LeMans winners were Audi, Bentley, BMW and Porsche. : <All the C5 victories at Lemans, Daytona, every place it enters it : wins.> : You do realize the Corvette has NEVER won LeMans, right? You do realize : that Porsche has won LeMans 16 times, right? Corvette has won it's : class 5 or 6 times with a Ferrari victory in there somewhere, but I : mean the Porsche 924 has won that class before, it's not like Corvette : has ever won the thing outright. : Stick with fighting with the other rednecks about NASCAR victories and : leave the real racing to the world class manufacturers, not the one : laying off Americans by the thousands and losing billions of dollars a : quarter. : In the last 10 years the only LeMans winners were Audi, Bentley, BMW : and Porsche. Thank you, I was gonna mention something about the old Porsche marketing literature in the 80's for the 951 was that it ate Corvettes for lunch... not sure Porsche would ever compare a 911 against a Corvette... just not in the same class...  SignatureJohn Nelson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) In their repective classes, bozo. The c5r has won Lemans in its class for years in a row now. I know Ford has won it, and Bentley as well. Times change, eh? The point is the z-06 is an amazing vehicle. I know your 924 will outhandle and outperform it. Keep smoking that crack... 1984 - Klaus Ludwig/Henri Pescarolo (Porsche) 1985 - Klaus Ludwig/Paolo Barilla/John Winter (Porsche) 1986 - Derek Bell/Hans-Joachim Stuck/Al Holbert (Porsche) 1987 - Derek Bell/Hans-Joachim Stuck/Al Holbert (Porsche) 1988 - Jan Lammers/Johnny Dumfries/Andy Wallace (Jaguar) 1989 - Jochen Mass/Manuel Reuter/Stanley Dickens (Mercedes) 1990 - John Nielsen/Price Cobb/Martin Brundle (Jaguar) 1991 - Volker Weidler/Johnny Herbert/Bertrand Gachot (Mazda) 1992 - Derek Warwick/Yannick Dalmas/Mark Blundell (Peugeot) 1993 - Gary Brabham/Christophe Bouchut/Ãric Helary (Peugeot) 1994 - Yannick Dalmas/Hurley Haywood/Mauro Baldi (Porsche) 1995 - Yannick Dalmas/JJ Lehto/Masanori Sekiya (McLaren) 1996 - Manuel Reuter/Davy Jones/Alexander Wurz (Porsche) 1997 - Michele Alboreto/Stefan Johansson/Tom Kristensen (Porsche) 1998 - Laurent Aiello/Allan McNish/Stephane Ortelli (Porsche) 1999 - Pierluigi Martini/Yannick Dalmas/Joachim Winkelhock (BMW) 2000 - Frank Biela/Tom Kristensen/Emanuele Pirro (Audi) 2001 - Frank Biela/Tom Kristensen/Emanuele Pirro (Audi) 2002 - Frank Biela/Tom Kristensen/Emanuele Pirro (Audi) 2003 - Tom Kristensen/Rinaldo Capello/Guy Smith (Bentley) 2004 - Tom Kristensen/Rinaldo Capello/Seiji Ara (Audi) Here are your LeMans winners since 1984. The Corvette has won exactly none. The Corvette has won it's class 2 years in a row. (They lost when Ferrari decided to race.) Winning your class is NOT winning LeMans. Hell, the Porsches win their class too. Full of sh.t once again. The number 2 you mention above is your IQ I suspect . Didn't you also state the cayenne (the US copied the SUV idea from Porsche too?) had a payload of 7000lbs? 24 Hours of Le Mans 2001 vette wins lemans 1-2 GTS victory 2002, vette win lemans 1-2 GTS victory 2003 Corvette Takes 1-2 GTS Class Victory at The 24 Hours of Le Mans 2003 "Corvette Tops Ferrari in legendary endurance race LE MANS, France - The General Motors Chevrolet Corvette Racing team won a dramatic GTS class battle at the 24 Hours of Le Mans on Sunday. The #64 Corvette C5-R of Oliver Gavin, Olivier Beretta and Jan Magnussen took the GTS victory, finishing sixth overall, while the #63 Corvette of Ron Fellows, Johnny O'Connell and Max Papis took second place honors." 2004. Corvettes win the Lemans GTS class positions 1 & 2 2005 Covettes win the lemans GTS class positions 1 & 2 again... Porrsche does not compete in the same category as the vettes. They are a step down from GTS. Full of sh.t once again. The number 2 you mention above is your IQ I suspect . Didn't you also state the cayenne (the US copied the SUV idea from Porsche too?) had a payload of 7000lbs? 24 Hours of Le Mans 2001 vette wins lemans 1-2 GTS victory 2002, vette win lemans 1-2 GTS victory 2003 Corvette Takes 1-2 GTS Class Victory at The 24 Hours of Le Mans 2003 "Corvette Tops Ferrari in legendary endurance race LE MANS, France - The General Motors Chevrolet Corvette Racing team won a dramatic GTS class battle at the 24 Hours of Le Mans on Sunday. The #64 Corvette C5-R of Oliver Gavin, Olivier Beretta and Jan Magnussen took the GTS victory, finishing sixth overall, while the #63 Corvette of Ron Fellows, Johnny O'Connell and Max Papis took second place honors." 2004. Corvettes win the Lemans GTS class positions 1 & 2 2005 Covettes win the lemans GTS class positions 1 & 2 again... Porrsche does not compete in the same category as the vettes. They are a step down from GTS. Let me step in here. In 2003 Ferrari won the GTS class at Le Mans. In GTS Class, the Prodrive Ferraris spoiled both the Corvette's 50th Anniversary and the hat trick by winning GTS Class. True. Corvette won Sebring that year, and came in 2nd and 3rd in GTS at Leman Why do you all reply to such an obvious troll?? SignatureDan Stephenson Photos and movies from US Parks and all over Europe: http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda <hows you used bmw?> Is what it is...a commuter car. A definite step down from a Porsche, but a different animal altogether, so I don't know how fair it is to compare. The BMW has a little more bite than the Audi A6 Quattros I was looking at. I have the ASC&T option as well as some of the luxury options like heated seats and all leather. I don't plan on hanging onto her for more than a year or two, but like I said, it is what it is, a commuter car. I can comfortably take clients out in it, my sons booster seat fits in it and most of all, I put it in drive and off I go at 10MPH to work. check out http://www.corvetteracing.com. here's a quote: DETROIT - Corvette Racing dominated the American Le Mans Series for the fifth straight year in 2005, but it wasn't easy. The introduction of the new Corvette C6.R race cars, the emergence of powerful new rivals, and the impact of new rules shaped the season for Chevrolet's two-car factory team. The yellow Corvettes raced to 10 victories in 11 starts, including the team's fourth win in the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Chevrolet won the ALMS GT1 manufacturers championship for the fifth consecutive year, and Corvette Racing swept the drivers, team and pit crew championships. When the checkered flag fell on the victorious Corvette C6.R of newly crowned GT1 champions Oliver Gavin and Olivier Beretta at the ALMS season finale in Monterey, Calif., it marked Corvette Racing's 45th win in international endurance racing and the team's 31st 1-2 finish. Big F-ing deal...you won your class. (Excepting, that is, when Ferrari decided to step up a few years back and remind you of just where you fall on the racing food chain). Why not post the GT2 class as well? If that is your gauge. Winning your class IS NOT winning LeMans, and if it is...then congratulations, the 924GTR won LeMans in 1979. You are truly an idiot. Better go back to NASCAR, a form of racing easy enough for you to understand. Lawrence L. schrieb: > > hi [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > whar do you guys makes of this... Perhaps you can Start with the Cayman S I did it on friday here www.porsche.de Try it and ask again or the car CD named as the best sports car, the Boxter S. They named the corvette as the best performance car. And BMW 3 series got a best there too. |
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