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Car Forum / Porsche / Porsche Cars / March 2007Targa Cabriolet conversion
Hi, I know squat about Porsche's but have always wanted one for fun weekend driving, in particular a cab. This pretty much mandates not spending a whole lot of money. I've come across a '79 Targa that's been converted to a cabriolet... which I thought pretty strange - body flex and such - but maybe it's not that crazy, depending exactly on what the function of that 'rollbar' is that's on the Targa... is it 'really' there to stiffen the body as in the VW Golf? Or is the Targa's body indeed essentially that of the convertible? Any thoughts appreciated cheers > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > cheers I'd be very careful about a converted cab. That era Targa wasn't the stiffest chassis to begin with (don't get me wrong, I had a 74 Targa and loved it). The Targa bar does indeed contribute considerable stiffness to the chassis. Unless the conversion was done by *experts* it's probably an iffy deal. At the very least check the door fit. It should be 'perfect' in all respects. If the gap isn't exactly the same all the way around, or if it doesn't close and open just the way it should, run away. Then again, if you can get it cheap (you should, conversions of any type are generally undesireable) and just want a fun toy, it may serve you well. Alan > Or is the Targa's body indeed essentially >that of the convertible? Any thoughts appreciated The targa body is the same as the convertible AFTER the convertible came into existence in 1983. An 83 or later targa changed to cabriolet would be the same as factory in terms of stiffness; an 82 or older wouldn't have the same reinforcements and would be (in my opinion) unacceptably loose. epbrown -- How can you know where I'm at if you haven't been where I been? Can you see where I'm coming from? "How I Could Just Kill A Man" Cypress Hill .....many, many thanks to both of you for the excellent information about the difference between these and advice. Seems a '79 SC Targa to Cabriolet is something that I might stay away from, especially at the 18 to 22K asking price.... I'm going to concentrate on a 964 Targa, something I really had wanted all along in any case.... a little more opportunity there for DIY given better fuel injection and, I'm guessing here, OBD2 compliant ECU. cheers and many thanks again guenter > DIY given better fuel injection and, I'm guessing here, OBD2 compliant ECU. That would be an OBD-I car. OBD-II = 1996 and up. DS 95 993 Coupe >> DIY given better fuel injection and, I'm guessing here, OBD2 compliant ECU. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >DS >95 993 Coupe .... Ohh, thanks for that. Well, at least it well tell me if the voltage was low at some point or another or if the A/C is working ... :-) By the way, am I correct to assume that the 993 represents the pinnacle of the 911 series? cheers, guenter > By the >way, am I correct to assume that the 993 represents the pinnacle of the 911 >series? To some. It was the last air-cooled rear-engine sports car from Porsche, and it's a great one. I'm more inclined to lump the 993 in with the 996 and 997, myself; I don't see engine-cooling as the dividing line for the range. epbrown -- How can you know where I'm at if you haven't been where I been? Can you see where I'm coming from? "How I Could Just Kill A Man" Cypress Hill >>> DIY given better fuel injection and, I'm guessing here, OBD2 compliant ECU. >> That would be an OBD-I car. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > way, am I correct to assume that the 993 represents the pinnacle of the 911 > series? As far as looks go, sure! I do think it's the best looking 911 by far, though the 997 seems quite nice. I've not had enough face time with one to decide yet. I am too enamored with the Cayman right now. As far as power, the newer 911s beat the 993 without a doubt and water cooling is certainly much more efficient than air. As Emmanuel has stated, some folks hold on to the air-cooled engine thinking it is some sort of last bastion of original Porsche, but this reasoning is really only nostalgic and holds little or no engineering value. As Porsche found out, you can simply make more power with water with no appreciable gain in weight. Unlike Emmanuel, I cannot lump the 993 in with the 996. In addition to the difference in cooling, the 996 seems more like a GT car than a sports car. Too much civility and insulation from the road make it more of a gentleman's car in my mind. I would admit that the 911 has been heading in that sort of direction for years, but I hope the 997 is more of a return to its sports car roots. I also do not find the 996 nearly as attractive, but perhaps that is beside the point. Perceived as real or not, I think the 993 seems to hold its value for many of these reasons. That's fine by me. Best regards, DS |
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