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HELP: Best battery for 944??

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Jon - 10 Jan 2004 05:25 GMT
Hi,

I just bought a 1984 Porsche 944 back in November.  The owner told me that
battery needed replacement.  So, on the first week of ownership, I purchased
a new Interstate Megatron MT-47.  This is the recommended interstate battery
for the car.  This battery has 590 cold cranking amps (CCA).  However, the
problem is that the vehicle supposedly requires 600 CCA.

Today was 3 degrees Fahrenheit outside.  When I went to start the car, the
battery struggled, but finally started the car.  Now, I drive the car every
other day at least, so I know it stays charged.  Does anyone know of a
battery that has more than 600 CCA?  In fact, which battery fits this car
and hast he most CCA possible?  Please help.  Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,

Jon
Mike Merod - 10 Jan 2004 14:22 GMT
Jon,

590 out of 600?   I don't think the battery is your problem.  Assuming the
alternator and voltage regulator are working properly I would look at all
your hi-current connections, such as: your battery terminals, and the
starter connections, and the heavy cable that goes from the battery to the
starter.  Make sure they are all clean and low resistance.

Mike
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Jon - 18 Jan 2004 19:56 GMT
Mike,

Guess what?  I tested my alternator yesterday with my passport 8500 radar
detector.  It has a Voltmeter mode so I can monitor the voltage when I am
driving.  It says 12.8V at best.  When I run the heat full blast, it is
12.3V!!!  This is not good news.  Perhaps I need a new alternator.  However,
the starting is only hard when the engine is stone cold.  After it has been
run and has the littles bit of engine heat, it will start just like my
toyota!  I don't think the alternator is the problem because the battery is
brand new.  But the alternator could become a future problem.  I'll have to
get that fixed.

-Jon
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G Larson - 18 Jan 2004 20:57 GMT
If you're only getting 12.8V at best, it's the alternator. Actually I'd
guess the regulator which will save you a few bucks.

I'd confirm with a real voltmeter or take to an auto part store for a
free check.

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Dave Ryman - 18 Jan 2004 23:52 GMT
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Mine's a little below-par, apparently, too. Seems to be normal for an old
alternator.

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G Larson - 10 Jan 2004 17:09 GMT
Your car is twenty years old. I'd suspect it ain't just the battery.
Check out the electrical connection like the ground at the battery and
the ground strap to the engine.

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Jim Kent - 13 Jan 2004 02:18 GMT
>This battery has 590 cold cranking amps (CCA).  However, the
>problem is that the vehicle supposedly requires 600 CCA.

There is no effective difference between 590 and 600 when you're
talking about a battery rating.  Normal production tolerances for
capacity can cover 10% of nominal, and you'd never know the
difference.  Besides that, the rating is valid only at 70F (IIRC) and
any given battery will derate over temperature at some factor unique
to that particular battery.  IOW, a battery rated at 500CCA might
possibly have more actual CCA at 0F than another battery rated at
600CCA at 70F (when also at 0F).  Depends on how the battery is made,
the quality of materials, and condition of the battery.

Maybe you need an oil change to that whizzy 0W-40 Mobil 1?
Jon - 15 Jan 2004 17:13 GMT
Hi,

Right now I am using 15W50 Mobile 1.  I fear that the car might leak
terribly if I use 0W.  :)

-Jon

> >This battery has 590 cold cranking amps (CCA).  However, the
> >problem is that the vehicle supposedly requires 600 CCA.
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Morgan Bullard - 18 Jan 2004 01:52 GMT
CCA specifically refers to cold cranking amps and the spec is 0°F [-17.7°C].

http://www.exideworld.com/faq/faq_auto.html

Check your electrical connections to the battery and to the starter.

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> >problem is that the vehicle supposedly requires 600 CCA.
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Dave Ryman - 18 Jan 2004 13:44 GMT
> CCA specifically refers to cold cranking amps and the spec is 0?F
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This seems to confirm my recent experience. I've had a lot of trouble
getting my 944 to start. Worsened by the cold, but particularly after the
car has not been run for a few days with the alarm enabled.

My battery was a 450A affair. I've just replaced it with a 620A battery.
Seems to make all the difference.

The car has not been left unrun since, so this is not conclusive, but why
my mechanic fitted a sub-rate battery, I've no idea.

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Jim Kent - 18 Jan 2004 21:43 GMT
>CCA specifically refers to cold cranking amps and the spec is 0°F [-17.7°C].

Yeah...  Brain fart.  I was thinking about cold cranking, then went on
about amp-hour and reserve rating.  If cold weather operation is
important to a battery buyer, he's much better off buying by CCA
rating and ignoring A-H/reserve ratings.
 
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