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PABLUX - 20 Sep 2004 19:25 GMT
what car is better, mercedes or porsche?
Paul Spencer - 20 Sep 2004 22:04 GMT
>what car is better, mercedes or porsche?

BMW
Steve Grauman - 20 Sep 2004 22:29 GMT
>BMW

Ha! I just test drove a loaded-out X5 4.4i; the Cayenne, the VW Toureag and the
Volvo XC90 T6 are all superior vehicles. The 3-series is nice but there are
obvious reasons why a 911 is more expensive (although the less expensive A4 has
a nicer interior) and MB sedans, even if less sporty, are always nicer inside
than a 5 or 7 series. The slowly deteriorating quality of BMW's interiors has
been cited by many auto mags. Porsche and MB both build such an amazingly high
quality vehicle that picking which is "better" is simply a matter of opinion.
Both are fantastic buys, although (with the exception of the SL Roadsters) I'm
always partial to Porsche.
Steve Grauman
Paul Spencer - 21 Sep 2004 08:15 GMT
>>BMW
>
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>always partial to Porsche.
>Steve Grauman

I just gave a random answer to a stupid question. Probably a troll,
and not a very good one.

I had a 928 (S4) and loved it, then an SLK (320) and hated it. So I
tried an M3, 911 and Boxster S and bought the Boxster. No regrets.

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van Gogh - 22 Sep 2004 01:14 GMT
> >what car is better, mercedes or porsche?
> >
> BMW

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E Brown - 20 Sep 2004 22:30 GMT
>what car is better, mercedes or porsche?

    Just get an early 90s 500E and split the difference.
    Emanuel
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Success-Productions - 27 Sep 2004 21:45 GMT
1984 928S with 85,180 miles!  Black-on-black with the autostick that is just
too fast and sticks better than ANY glue!  Too much fun for me!

Any offers?

Roger
Lincoln, NE

> >what car is better, mercedes or porsche?
> >
> Just get an early 90s 500E and split the difference.
> Emanuel
Bernard Farquart - 28 Sep 2004 15:50 GMT
> 1984 928S with 85,180 miles!  Black-on-black with the autostick that is
> just
> too fast and sticks better than ANY glue!  Too much fun for me!

"autostick"?
Steve n Holly - 29 Sep 2004 19:13 GMT
I believe in the early90's it was the 430E?

> 1984 928S with 85,180 miles!  Black-on-black with the autostick that is just
> too fast and sticks better than ANY glue!  Too much fun for me!
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> > Just get an early 90s 500E and split the difference.
> > Emanuel
E Brown - 30 Sep 2004 17:28 GMT
>I believe in the early90's it was the 430E?

    Nope, it was 500E for the first couple of years, E500 after
Mercedes changed their model-naming scheme to put the car "class"
indicator first. See:  http://www.mercedesshop.com/500e.htm
    Emanuel
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Steve Grauman - 01 Oct 2004 00:46 GMT
>Nope, it was 500E for the first couple of years, E500 after
>Mercedes changed their model-naming scheme to put the car "class"
>indicator first. See:

I've never had the chance to ride in or drive one, but I did get to sit in a
500E. It's still a nice car, and I almost prefer the styling of that generation
E-Class to the current one, especially the interior. And just knowing that a
Porsche-Tuned engine was under the hood made me want the thing even more. It's
to bad that I just can't really get into the newer AMG stuff. In fact, the new
SL500/600/55 is the only car in Mercedes lineup I really like. However, I hear
that the 6-cylinder that powered the original AMG version of the C-Class was a
great engine.
Steve Grauman
E Brown - 02 Oct 2004 10:34 GMT
>I've never had the chance to ride in or drive one, but I did get to sit in a
>500E. It's still a nice car, and I almost prefer the styling of that generation
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>that the 6-cylinder that powered the original AMG version of the C-Class was a
>great engine.

    I was darned close to getting a 500E, and still might as the GF
really wants me to own another 4-seater since I sold my Rolls, and the
revelation to me was not so much the power but the handling. Porsche
made what looked like a luxo-barge as tossable as my 928, which was
quite an achievement in my opinion. The 500E is why I wish Porsche had
made a performance sedan rather than the Cayenne when they decided to
expand the model line - I *know* it would have been a phenomenal car.
    Emanuel
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Steve Grauman - 02 Oct 2004 11:10 GMT
>I was darned close to getting a 500E, and still might as the GF
>really wants me to own another 4-seater since I sold my Rolls

I'd love to own en E500. But with used M3 sedans and B5 S4's avaliable at
reasonable prices, I'm not sure I'd rather have one of those. I guess an RS6 or
a 2005 E55 would be my first choices if I were buying a really hot sports
sedan, but now we're talking spending over $80k.

>The 500E is why I wish Porsche had
>made a performance sedan rather than the Cayenne when they decided to
>expand the model line

I think it came down to marketing. As hard as the idea of a Porsche SUV is to
swallow, I think it's a much easier vehicle for Porsche to market and sell than
a sedan, considering the current market and the popularity of such vehicles.
Remember that Porsche has closely examined the idea of a sedan at least twice,
and the one they "mocked up" during the late 1980s looked eeriely similar to
what ended up being the 996.

>I *know* it would have been a phenomenal car.

Hell yea. But consider the competition. A Porsche sedan would fall into a
segment also occupied by the BMW M5, Audi S6/RS6 and Mercedes E55 AMG. And
there's only so much room in the world for sports sedans with $60 to $80k price
tags. Even though practically everyone else makes an SUV, it's such a popular
segement right now that Porsche knew they could find room. However, I must
admit that one of the things I dream about VW/Audi doing with the C1 platform
they've got from Maserati is letting Porsche use a modified version for a
sedan. I've also thought that a "downsized" version paired with VW's 3.2 VR6
would make a great way to re-introduce the Corrado...Oh, to dream...
Steve Grauman
Devils944S2 - 21 Sep 2004 05:36 GMT
Hyundai

> what car is better, mercedes or porsche?
rory911 - 21 Sep 2004 16:15 GMT
Minivan

;^)

> Hyundai
>
> > what car is better, mercedes or porsche?
kk - 21 Sep 2004 21:46 GMT
Porsche, there is NO substitute...

Kris
> Minivan
>
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> >
> > > what car is better, mercedes or porsche?
Adrian Jaye - 29 Sep 2004 22:50 GMT
> Porsche, there is NO substitute...

seconded !
Small Mammal - 03 Oct 2004 01:37 GMT
what a bunch of w.nkers !!!

>> Porsche, there is NO substitute...
>
> seconded !
 
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