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Car Forum / Porsche / Porsche Cars / February 2005MSRP VS. Invoice 2005 Boxster
I was wondering if anyone has any input of buying a new 2005 Porsche Boxster. My primary questions would be 1) anyone know if any dealers out there are coming off MSRP on this vehilcle. I realize that anything even remotely near invoice is near impossible on the 2005 Boxster. Given that its a new model year with high demand ??? (can't say about this yet I guess) I think it would be unlikely but thought I would ask. 2) Any idea if a Tiptronic to be offered? 3) Any first time Porsche buyers who have advice for a newbie? 4) I read this post and would appreciate comments: http://www.ppbb.com/scgi-bin/boards/986/museum.pl?read=809001 Thanks in advance. I wouldn't count on any big deals on an 05'. Frankly, if I were in your shoes, I'd be REALLY tempted to try an squeeze a deal on a "leftover" 2004 Boxster S first, and move into an 05' base if I couldn't make it work. >2) Any idea if a Tiptronic to be offered? I watched some footage of the 05' being tested in Germany and I know that one of the 2 vehicles featured in the video was a tip. However I don't know if it'll be coming stateside right away. >3) Any first time Porsche buyers who have advice for a newbie? You may want to invest in some classes. Even a base Boxster has way more performance built in than most people know how to exploit and you'll probably find yourself enjoying the car more when you are capable of being more familiar with both it's limits and *your* limits. A well driven Porsche wil outrun about 90% of anything else on the road through the turns. Steve Grauman what classes would you recommend? how much do they cost? i own a boxster and feel that in turns, i'm not downshifting to the boxster's best capabilites. >what classes would you recommend? how much do they cost? I'm not sure of all the costs off the top of my head. PCA offers classes and they're among the best (for good reason). That'd be the first place I'd look, other than that you can try to use the internet to find other Porsche specific driving schools or you can look into something like the Skip Barber driving school or Bob Bondurant's school. Those will give you valuable skills but they aren't Porsche specific, they use Mustangs during the lessons. The PCA classes will teach you how to deal specifically with your Boxster, which is going to be best, IMO. >i own a boxster and feel that in turns, i'm not downshifting to the >boxster's best capabilites. The Boxster may not be the fastest car on the road 0-60 but it'll leave about 85% of other cars behind if driven properly down a twisty road. You'll probably be amazed how much quicker AND safer you'll get after the lessons. Steve Grauman thx for the quick reply! Forget classes Autocross it in SCCA B-stock for a year and you'll learn everything you need to know. There is no replacement for seat time. > I wouldn't count on any big deals on an 05'. Frankly, if I were in your shoes, > I'd be REALLY tempted to try an squeeze a deal on a "leftover" 2004 Boxster S [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > 90% of anything else on the road through the turns. > Steve Grauman > Forget classes Autocross it in SCCA B-stock for a year and you'll learn > everything you need to know. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > 90% of anything else on the road through the turns. > > Steve Grauman Actually part of what you say is true, seat time is important, but more important is learning the intimacies of racing first. I attended a Bonderant class in Long Beach back in 1965 and the track time in my 356SC, with a qualified instructor, was unforgetable. Granted the 356 was a different animal, but how do you learn to heel and toe just sitting in the seat? Or the differences between early and late apex techniques? How many time can you blow an early apex entry and still have a running vehicle. ;-) Even in autocrossing! I saw a Lotus Elan do just that once, and the car actually rolled!!! >>Forget classes, Autocross it in SCCA B-stock for a year and you'll >> learn everything you need to know. [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >>>90% of anything else on the road through the turns. >>>Steve Grauman |
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