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We are looking to buy our first Tent Trailer, a 96 Coleman Santa Fe. Would like to get feed back from previous owners, things to lookout for, etc. Here's the web site for it: 1996 Santa-Fe or http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?adID=5149234&pgno=1 Thanks Ron 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg YIKES!! they are asking way, way too much. I have a 2000 Santa Fe (great trailer, BTW), and did consider buying a new one last year. I decided I could get about 4,000 US for it. I just did a currency conversion, and it was that was about $6500 us$. When I bought my Santa Fe new 4 years ago, I paid $7500 out the door, and that included California's rather high taxes. Laura We are looking to buy our first Tent Trailer, a 96 Coleman Santa Fe. Would like to get feed back from previous owners, things to lookout for, etc. Here's the web site for it: 1996 Santa-Fe or http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?adID=5149234&pgno=1 Thanks Ron 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg Their only asking $6800 CDN right now plus taxes. We really haven't seen it or even had a chance to deal on it. Just looking for owner input. > YIKES!! they are asking way, way too much. I have a 2000 Santa Fe (great > trailer, BTW), and did consider buying a new one last year. I decided I [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg maybe check the price of a new unit... to compare...this one does have almost 10 year of usage, even if it's top shape! Mel lfm a écrit: > YIKES!! they are asking way, way too much. I have a 2000 Santa Fe (great > trailer, BTW), and did consider buying a new one last year. I decided I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg The main thing to look for (and not sure they had this problem with 1996 10 foot box) is roof sag. There are tons of discussions on this subject. If they sell you a garanty, make sure it includes the roof... Other than that, it's regular things to look for such as tear or roth in the fabric, unusual wear of tires, check floor for soft spots...etc... enjoy! Mel Ron a écrit: > We are looking to buy our first Tent Trailer, a 96 Coleman Santa Fe. > Would like to get feed back from previous owners, things to lookout for, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg While Coleman is considered by many to be the top of the line, one usually has to pay a premium. You should consider that the 2005 models are out, so that makes a 1996 nine years old. I would look a very long time before I spent that many $$$ on a nine year old unit. There should be many other pop-ups available for much less. You will probably need new tires. Tires should be relpaced ever 5 years, even though the tread is still there, because of UV damage to the sidewalls. Other than normal wear and tear, look for evidence of water damage and any rips or tears in the canvas. Look under the frame for water damage and for frame warping. When looking at a 9 year old unit, look for outside skin damage and the interior walls. This should tell a lot about how the unit has been used/abused... Just my 2 cents worth... Leon in Texas > We are looking to buy our first Tent Trailer, a 96 Coleman Santa Fe. Would > like to get feed back from previous owners, things to lookout for, etc. > > Here's the web site for it: 1996 Santa-Fe or > > http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?adID=5149234&pgno=1 Even converting for the value of dollars that I am used to (US), 6800 CDN is still a lot of money for a 9-year old camper of any stripe. The seller has the time of the year/season on his side: It's Spring (or soon will be) - the BEST time to SELL a camper. You have INFORMATION on your side - US! <grin> If this camper has the ORIGINAL one-piece ("seamless") ABS roof, you would do well to THOROUGHLY examine it for ANY sign of "sag" - distortion of the straight line edges where the roof and its gaskets meet the lower box and, hopefully, SEAL. Ask them SPECIFICALLY about the roof and "ABS roof sag". Don't be in a hurry to buy this camper. :) JR > If this camper has the ORIGINAL one-piece ("seamless") ABS roof, you would do > well to THOROUGHLY examine it for ANY sign of "sag" - distortion of the > straight line edges where the roof and its gaskets meet the lower box and, > hopefully, SEAL. I got my 96 Niagara for $3k. It does have a sagging roof. It's ugly, but I figure as long as I can keep it water tight it's worth the savings. Bob > I got my 96 Niagara for $3k. It does have a sagging roof. It's ugly, but > I figure as long as I can keep it water tight it's worth the savings. Agreed. I have seen where a sagging-roof-owner has built a jig that occupies the inside of the camper when it is folded DOWN. This jig stands on the isle in the center of the camper and is JUST high enough that the roof rests on the jig instead of its outer walls. It was claimed that this actually reduced - by a perceptible amount - the sag. :) JR Jim, do you remember how they did this? I'm thinking a 2x4 on end with some sort of top on it, but I can't recall if the bunks meet or if their would be room berween them for this contraption. My camper is in storage, I'll have to go look. I have the "new" abs roof, but it is showing signs of sag and I am getting minute cracks along the curbside edge. I am going to the dealer as soon as we move to VA (less than 3 months), but want to try and release some pressure on the one side in the meantime. I just don't want to get the camper in the shop and have to deal with that stress while trying to find a new house and get moved. (we will be camping while looking for a house:) ) Gerry > > I got my 96 Niagara for $3k. It does have a sagging roof. It's ugly, but > > I figure as long as I can keep it water tight it's worth the savings. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > :) > JR > Jim, do you remember how they did this? I'm thinking a 2x4 on end with some > sort of top on it, but I can't recall if the bunks meet or if their would be > room berween them for this contraption. My description may not have been complete or completely accurate. (How's THAT for an after-the-fact disclaimer and potential retraction?<g>) I assure you that I READ about the device elsewhere. In any case, it makes good sense from a physics standpoint. Practical application is debatable. Bunk Ends: I suspect that most, if not all, bunk ends MEET when the camper is fully closed. If not, I'll bet the distance/separation between the two is minimal at best. Any anti-roof-sag support would have to either rest on the closed bunk ends or or on VERY thin "legs" that extend through the gap (if any) between the bunkends to the floor below. In any case, you should ensure that water does NOT penetrate the camper. I neglected this with my (bought new) Starcraft popup. Over thirteen years, the floor LITERALLY rotted under our feet. If the rest of the camper is in EXCELLENT condition, you might even consider a roof replacement some time later. Just keep the water out. Good luck with the house hunt and move! :) JR no problem... I remember the thread, just not the details. I'm going to get the roof replaced (oh yea, fleetwood's gonna pay AGAIN for all the pain I had in the beginning), just witing untill I get to VA vice shipping it to FL. I am sure there will be some grief involved getting the replacement approved so rather than a.s the heartache now, I'll deal with it after the move. It will be nice to be near my son again, he is stationed up there while I am still stationed in FL. I'l figure the roof brace out and post details, I just have to lock myself inside the closed up trailer with a tape measure and pencil w/paper. Gerry > > Jim, do you remember how they did this? I'm thinking a 2x4 on end with some > > sort of top on it, but I can't recall if the bunks meet or if their would be [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > :) > JR > I'l figure the roof brace out and post details, I just have to lock myself > inside the closed up trailer with a tape measure and pencil w/paper. If you happen to have a folding ruler it makes the job easier. Bob > Jim, do you remember how they did this? I'm thinking a 2x4 on end with some > sort of top on it, but I can't recall if the bunks meet or if their would be > room berween them for this contraption. I have done this. On my Niagara, there is 4 inches between the bunk ends when closed, plenty of room for a 2x4. I measured the vertical distance with the roof down. I cut a 2x4 to that length, minus 3 inches. I nailed 2x6 by 1 foot to the ends of the 2x4, making a sort of H shape. It does seem to reverse the sag. The next step is to cut something to support the roof while up. Bob thanks Bob, Jim--here's my answer. Gerry > > Jim, do you remember how they did this? I'm thinking a 2x4 on end with some > > sort of top on it, but I can't recall if the bunks meet or if their would be [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Bob Wow 1996 Coleman SANTA-FE Price: $8,127.00 , thats a lot of Canadian Dollars for a 96. That works out to 6,581 USD. I would hope to get that much for my 2000 Sante Fe :). Here there is probably more demand then supply at times so hence higher pricing. We are looking to buy our first Tent Trailer, a 96 Coleman Santa Fe. Would like to get feed back from previous owners, things to lookout for, etc. Here's the web site for it: 1996 Santa-Fe or http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?adID=5149234&pgno=1 Thanks Ron 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg We have a 1996 Santa Fe, we love it, but we have had the rubber gasket that seals the top when closed started falling off. The material to replace it is not cheap. Also, our awning pulled off during some moderate winds. We have found ways to fix all of these things on our own which is what I like about the older ones, they are pretty simple. My folks bought a 2004 coleman and it was higher tech and difficult to get timely service when traveling the country with it. Sometimes its nice to have something you can fix yourself. I would concur with the way over priced comments. > We are looking to buy our first Tent Trailer, a 96 Coleman Santa Fe. > Would like to get feed back from previous owners, things to lookout for, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg Their asking 6800 CDN as of now We have a 1996 Santa Fe, we love it, but we have had the rubber gasket that seals the top when closed started falling off. The material to replace it is not cheap. Also, our awning pulled off during some moderate winds. We have found ways to fix all of these things on our own which is what I like about the older ones, they are pretty simple. My folks bought a 2004 coleman and it was higher tech and difficult to get timely service when traveling the country with it. Sometimes its nice to have something you can fix yourself. I would concur with the way over priced comments. Ron wrote: > We are looking to buy our first Tent Trailer, a 96 Coleman Santa Fe. > Would like to get feed back from previous owners, things to lookout for, > etc. > > > Here's the web site for it: 1996 Santa-Fe > <http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?adID=5149234&pgno=1> > or > > http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?adID=5149234&pgno=1 > <http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?adID=5149234&pgno=1> > > > Thanks > Ron > > > > 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg which is $5500 - still way too high. way too high. I checked out the NADA guide - guessing at some of the options. Still, it came out in the low to mid 2000s. Try it yourself, and show it to the seller. Offer a lot less. He is dreaming. I would sell my 2000 SF for 5500 in a flash! http://www.nadaguides.com/Values/ValueReport.asp?UserID=55080CD2D1390&DID=38400& Type=CT&GCode=RV&wPg=1107&wSec=5&Letter=C&Com=0011&Year=1996&Model=2500001131 Laura Their asking 6800 CDN as of now We have a 1996 Santa Fe, we love it, but we have had the rubber gasket that seals the top when closed started falling off. The material to replace it is not cheap. Also, our awning pulled off during some moderate winds. We have found ways to fix all of these things on our own which is what I like about the older ones, they are pretty simple. My folks bought a 2004 coleman and it was higher tech and difficult to get timely service when traveling the country with it. Sometimes its nice to have something you can fix yourself. I would concur with the way over priced comments. Ron wrote: > We are looking to buy our first Tent Trailer, a 96 Coleman Santa Fe. > Would like to get feed back from previous owners, things to lookout for, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg We looked all last summer and in that age group 94-97 w/ F/S/F screen room and good to great cond, the market is 5-7+K CAN throughout SK which is $5500 - still way too high. way too high. I checked out the NADA guide - guessing at some of the options. Still, it came out in the low to mid 2000s. Try it yourself, and show it to the seller. Offer a lot less. He is dreaming. I would sell my 2000 SF for 5500 in a flash! http://www.nadaguides.com/Values/ValueReport.asp?UserID=55080CD2D1390&DID=38400& Type=CT&GCode=RV&wPg=1107&wSec=5&Letter=C&Com=0011&Year=1996&Model=2500001131 Laura "SuperCrew Express" <cnd_supercrew@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message news:4214c938$1@news.accesscomm.ca... Their asking 6800 CDN as of now "Dave Robertson" <therobertsons@uci.net> wrote in message news:eMCdnd0TpZhDNonfRVn-qQ@uci.net... We have a 1996 Santa Fe, we love it, but we have had the rubber gasket that seals the top when closed started falling off. The material to replace it is not cheap. Also, our awning pulled off during some moderate winds. We have found ways to fix all of these things on our own which is what I like about the older ones, they are pretty simple. My folks bought a 2004 coleman and it was higher tech and difficult to get timely service when traveling the country with it. Sometimes its nice to have something you can fix yourself. I would concur with the way over priced comments. Ron wrote: > We are looking to buy our first Tent Trailer, a 96 Coleman Santa Fe. > Would like to get feed back from previous owners, things to lookout for, > etc. > > > Here's the web site for it: 1996 Santa-Fe > <http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?adID=5149234&pgno=1> > or > > http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?adID=5149234&pgno=1 > <http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?adID=5149234&pgno=1> > > > Thanks > Ron > > > > 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg don't know why..but here in Canada... it looks like selling prices of old units are always way above Nada guides... and people#dealers are always able to find a buyer since the price is way below new unit prices. it's the same for Cars... Mel SuperCrew Express a écrit: > We looked all last summer and in that age group 94-97 w/ F/S/F screen > room and good to great cond, the market is 5-7+K CAN throughout SK [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > > > 2003 F-150 SuperCrew FX4 w/tow pkg > don't know why..but here in Canada... it looks like selling prices of > old units are always way above Nada guides... and people#dealers are > always able to find a buyer since the price is way below new unit > prices. it's the same for Cars... That's the price you pay for living it up in God's Country! :) Now that we've heard the same thing from two Canadians, I think he ought to get the camper before someone ELSE does, provided the roof is good (et al). :) JR Hey! Grandbaby #3 is due at any hour! I'm actually thinking of taking the TT to Des Moines, Iowa, for the birth. I am debating on flushing the antifreeze and just keeping it artifically warm for a couple weeks after it gets back home. Then again, I may just keep the thing winterized and flush the toilet with a bucket. February 18th would be several WEEKS earlier than I have ever UNwinterized the thing. Winter really isn't over in Nebraska. Not quite yet, anyway. The bone crunching sub-zero temperatures probably are, though. Decisions, decisions! Regardless, we're taking it to sleep in. There's only one thing DUMBER than buying an RV: Buying and RV and NOT using it!! :) JR We kept our potta-potty when we sold our last pop-up. So, sometimes, when we use the trailer without water connections, we prefer to use the potty vs the TTs toilet, easier to flush when no dumping station close by Mel Jim Redelfs a écrit: >>don't know why..but here in Canada... it looks like selling prices of >>old units are always way above Nada guides... and people#dealers are [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > :) > JR > We kept our potta-potty when we sold our last pop-up. So, sometimes, > when we use the trailer without water connections, we prefer to use the > potty vs the TTs toilet, easier to flush when no dumping station close by I have had several qualified and trusted RV repair users recommend using 2-3 gallons of simple automotive windshield washer fluid in the holding tanks when using them during cold weather. I have decided to not blow the lines of their antifreeze so we'll flush the toilet with a bucket. Mrs. MacWidow is OK with that. To avoid the appearance of bragging, I have waiting until today to talk about my WAY COOL accessory that I got last summer: Flojet Portable Macerator Pump. I have used it 2-3 times and it works GREAT! I bought a 50-ft length of 3/4-inch rubber "contractor grade" water hose. The hose runs through the doggie door into the washing machine's drain standpipe. It works PERFECTLY. I have the CLEANEST holding tanks in the WORLD!! :) JR > We looked all last summer and in that age group 94-97 w/ F/S/F screen room > and good to great cond, the market is 5-7+K CAN throughout SK Look... If you've done your homework, the roof isn't a POS and the camper is in good condition and EVERYTHING works, buy it. With Spring just around the corner, it WILL sell for that new, "lower" price. Someone will buy it. It may as be YOU. But... (There's always a big BUTT in there! <g>) Tell 'em that, for the $$, you want everything ready to tow: That includes a complete hitch system and electric brake system, if the camper has brakes. ('96 ten-foot box... Hmmm.. It may or may NOT have brakes). If it DOES have brakes, you want a Tekonsha Prodigy brake controller. You do NOT want a DrawTite, Reese, or whatever OTHER brand they will TRY to get you to accept for the "throw in" deal. If they still balk at the Prodigy, pay the difference but still get the Prodigy. Don't forget to ask about roof sag. Please let us know what they say about that. Good luck. :) JR |
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