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Anyone have and electric cooler?

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Kirk - 19 Feb 2005 19:04 GMT
Hi,

Does anyone have any experience with electric coolers? A friend of mine at
work likes his and I wondered if anyone else has ever tried one out.

Thanks,  Kirk

2000 Bayside
Len Mullen - 19 Feb 2005 19:26 GMT
> Does anyone have any experience with electric coolers? A friend of mine at
> work likes his and I wondered if anyone else has ever tried one out.

I have one and plan on getting a second.  Plugs into the lighter on the road
and AC on site.  No messy melting ice to replace.  I use the coolers for
'meals' and the camper's frig for other stuff.  Keeping them closed helps
keep the temp down.

Only problem I have is that it tends to frost up.  Not really a camping
issue, but you can't leave one running indefinately, say as a beer cooler.
Tony Wesley - 19 Feb 2005 21:16 GMT
> > Does anyone have any experience with electric coolers? A friend of mine at
> > work likes his and I wondered if anyone else has ever tried one out.

> I have one and plan on getting a second.  Plugs into the lighter on the road
> and AC on site.  No messy melting ice to replace.  I use the coolers for
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> Only problem I have is that it tends to frost up.  Not really a camping
> issue, but you can't leave one running indefinately, say as a beer cooler.

Len, you've got a good one.  I have one and I like it.  But I don't
think it really keeps things cold enough.  I put a large zip lock
baggie of ice in mine every day or so to help cool things down.
Len Mullen - 19 Feb 2005 22:13 GMT
> Len, you've got a good one.  I have one and I like it.  But I don't
> think it really keeps things cold enough.  I put a large zip lock
> baggie of ice in mine every day or so to help cool things down.

Maybe.  This is what we have...

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2496642

Funny you mention that.  The discussion about getting a second one happened
only this morning.  Wife complained about how cool it keeps things, and I
suggested four things...

1) Put cold things in it
2) Plug it in TWO days before leaving
3) Use it for meal food
4) Put a ziplock bag full of ice on top

I didn't really explain well in the last post, so thanks for dragging me
back to finish.  The reason that we use them for 'meal foods' is that they
do not cool quickly.  So opening and closing for soda, beer, etc. is not a
good thing.  BUT they do cool and stay cool, so steaks, burger, coldcuts,
etc. will stay cold for the whole trip without adding ice once they are cold
and if the cooler is mostly closed.

So we put stuff we're after all the time in the camper frig -- which seems
to be more forgiving of people looking for things ;-)

The zip lock bag of ice is not usually necessary, but is a remedy for #2 not
getting done.  If I plug that thing in for a couple weeks, we get ice around
the fan.  And the beer freezes.  It's also a best opractice to store ice for
drinks in a zip lock bag on top of the food in the cooler.  You also want to
be careful how you pack these.  The air needs to get away from the fan.

Still, I like these a lot for keeping things cold and dry when we camp.
Saves me a lot of trips for ice.
Terri - 20 Feb 2005 01:27 GMT
We have an Igloo electric cooler. We plug it in a couple of days before
our camping trip. Then we fill it with items that are going into the
camper fridge. Our drinks are in an ice cooler. When we get to the
campsite we plug it into the power while the camper fridge cools down.
Then we transfer cold items to camper fridge. Sometime when it is
longer than a weekend we keep it plugged in outside for extra cooling
space.

The McFetridge Family
New Whireland IN
Alfred Anderson - 20 Feb 2005 03:34 GMT
We got one two years ago at WalMart - it was about $100.  After a couple of
days we returned it.  It would only lower the temperature by about 40
degrees from ambient.  We were camping where it was in the upper 90's.  We
didn't think 50 degree milk was  good thing!

Instead we bought an "Extreme" cooler - very well insulated.  I put a load
of ice inside the cooler and all of our food around that.  Kept everything
right at 34 degrees inspite of the 98 degrees outside!  We'd add a $2 bag of
ice every other day.  Two years later it is still going strong!

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> Hi,
>
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>
> 2000 Bayside
Dale & Betty - 20 Feb 2005 05:53 GMT
We have used one for years.....  Made a cover from an old quilted
silver windshield reflector for the hot days and keeping it out
of the sun.  Bought a timer that would turn the cooler on-and-off
during the cool nights.  We had more trouble with frozen fresh
veggies than with too warm foods.  If the warm conditions exist
we move 'em to the camper fridge if possible. I say If possible
because we have kept meat et. al. _frozen_ for two weeks by
running the camper fridge on high and on propane.
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[Dale] & Betty
97 Coleman Cheyenne/2002 Caravan
97 Toyota T100

> We got one two years ago at WalMart - it was about $100.  After a couple of
> days we returned it.  It would only lower the temperature by about 40
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> >
> > 2000 Bayside
Tony Wesley - 22 Feb 2005 04:04 GMT
> We have used one for years.....  Made a cover from an old quilted
> silver windshield reflector for the hot days and keeping it out
> of the sun.

How feel for how well that works?

I lined mine with Reflectex.  Did the same with one of my ice chest.  I
think it helps but it doesn't make a big difference.
Tony Wesley - 22 Feb 2005 05:00 GMT
> How feel for how well that works?

Gaack.

I think the above is a cross between "How well does that work?" and
"Any feel for how well that works?"

I'll go sit in the corner with my dunce hat on.
Dale & Betty - 22 Feb 2005 05:15 GMT
Agree that it didn't make a big difference.  But we carried a
digital indoor/outdoor thermometer and did watch the temperature.
I don't recall ever loosing any food to the heat but we did
freeze some tomatoes and lettuce on a cool night.  The Reflectex
should do better than the thin material we used.
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[Dale] & Betty
97 Coleman Cheyenne
97 Toyota T100

> > We have used one for years.....  Made a cover from an old quilted
> > silver windshield reflector for the hot days and keeping it out
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> I lined mine with Reflectex.  Did the same with one of my ice chest.  I
> think it helps but it doesn't make a big difference.
Jim Redelfs - 20 Feb 2005 20:12 GMT
> Does anyone have any experience with electric coolers? A friend of mine at
> work likes his and I wondered if anyone else has ever tried one out.

There are portable refrigerators and freezers that operate on propane GAS.  
You plop it beside you under your beach umbrella and screw-in a disposable
propane cylinder and enjoy ICE cold pop (et al) all afternoon.

That is, of course, assuming you are willing to spend the $$ and haul this
heft chunk to the beach.

http://www.loftyshelters.com/RC3000.htm

I saw another site that wanted over $400US for the model.  BTW - This is a
SMALL refrigerator.  There are larger "portables" that run on gas.  More money.

           :)
JR
Kirk - 21 Feb 2005 13:47 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> 2000 Bayside

As usual the feedback is very interesting from everyone. I never heard of
the small 'gas' units that Jim posted.

Can those of you who have these units share your opinion on weather or not
it would keep a beer or pop cold enough to drink? We usually freeze our
meats and pre-cool our beverages before we load up and pre-chilling the
cooler would not be a problem. We have the fridge in the Bayside for the
real critical items. I guess the biggest appeal to the electric unit would
be to get away from the need for ice. Is there much condensation with the
electrics?
So they have a thermostat or are they just on and off?

Thanks again,

Kirk

2000 Bayside and family
Len Mullen - 21 Feb 2005 15:16 GMT
> Can those of you who have these units share your opinion on weather or not
> it would keep a beer or pop cold enough to drink? We usually freeze our
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> electrics?
> So they have a thermostat or are they just on and off?

no on/off and hot/cold

>> Hi,
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>
> 2000 Bayside and family
Len Mullen - 21 Feb 2005 15:18 GMT
> Can those of you who have these units share your opinion on weather or not
> it would keep a beer or pop cold enough to drink? We usually freeze our
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> be to get away from the need for ice. Is there much condensation with the
> electrics?

Good for beer/soda if mostly closed.  Repeated opening will warm things up.

Quite a bit of condensation, but nothing like water from melting ice.  Of
course, water from melting ice can be contained in a ziplock bag.

Appeal for me is less ice too.

> So they have a thermostat or are they just on and off?

on off and hot/cold -- you don't want to know how I discovered this ;-)
Tony Wesley - 22 Feb 2005 02:16 GMT
> > So they have a thermostat or are they just on and off?
>
> on off and hot/cold -- you don't want to know how I discovered this ;-)

You too?  It only took once.  Now, I double-check that switch every
time.
AustinMN - 22 Feb 2005 00:04 GMT
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have any experience with electric coolers? A friend of mine at
> work likes his and I wondered if anyone else has ever tried one out.

Their usefulness depends on a few things.

First, if you dry camp, they are a huge load on your battery.  We once
forgot to unplug one in the back of the van, and couldn't start it six hours
later.
Second, they will only keep things 40-45 degrees colder than the ambient
temperature.  So if you camp where it's 70F, they will freeze (70-40=30,
70-45=25).  If you camp where it's 90F, they won't be cool enough (90-40=50,
95-45=55).  We have experienced both.  In between 75 and 85 they should be
fine.
Third,  they take a long time to cool things off, so they won't work well
for a pop or beer chest where they are opened frequently, nor will they cool
off warm pop or beer before the weekend is over.

The one we had (an igloo) was also fairly noisy, sounding like there was a
baseball card stuck in the fan (I disassembled the fan mechanisms (there's
one inside and one outside) trying to find the source of the noise problem,
and failed.

We gave it away and got a large extreme cooler.  Haven't regretted it.

Austin
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jausti3@houston.rr.com - 22 Feb 2005 15:19 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> 2000 Bayside

We tried one, had the same results as most everyone else on here has and
finally went with a permanently installed dorm size fridge from Walmart for
under $75. Have an extreme cooler also for "most-used" items which works
well. We keep that outside under bunk-end covered with silver/black
reflective tarp.

Kathy and Joseph
Houston, TX
1987 Starcraft Starmaster
1994 Plymouth Voyager
2003 Pelican 16.5' Canoe
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Chris Cowles - 26 Feb 2005 18:59 GMT
If you mean the thermal transfer type coolers, note that they probably have
a limit on the temperature gradient they can produce. For drinks, that could
be fine. For food safety, maybe not.

Consider that summer temperatures could be in the 90's. If the cooler can't
cool more than (for example) 50 degrees below ambient, the interior temp
will be 45, at best. That's unsafe. Do you want food poisoning on your
vacation?
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Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL

> Hi,
>
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>
> 2000 Bayside
Mark Jones - 26 Feb 2005 19:18 GMT
> If you mean the thermal transfer type coolers, note that they probably have
> a limit on the temperature gradient they can produce. For drinks, that could
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> will be 45, at best. That's unsafe. Do you want food poisoning on your
> vacation?
I would think that they would work fine if stored inside an air conditioned
vehicle or pop-up. Leaving them in the heat would not work.
Chris Cowles - 26 Feb 2005 20:43 GMT
I agree but whoever's buying one needs to consider the circumstances under
which they'll use it. Not everyone is aware of their functional limits.
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Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL

> I would think that they would work fine if stored inside an air
> conditioned
> vehicle or pop-up. Leaving them in the heat would not work.
JerryBianchi@netscape.net - 09 Mar 2005 01:42 GMT
As others have said, it depends on your use.  I just returned from a
five week trip through Mexico in a Mini Van.  Used the Igloo brand unit
and it worked just great for me.  What I liked was the ability to run
it on the Vans DC when traveling and take it into the hotel and run on
AC when stopping over night.  I did have some cold weather in New
Mexcio and fairly hot weather (hi 80's) in Mexico.  The unit worked
flawlessly for my needs.  Regarding DC operation, I left it on many
times for six or seven hours without any battery worries.  The unit
draws less than five amps max.  If you have a high amp/hour battery you
should be able to run all day without problems.

Best of all no Ice to buy, no soggy food, no cleanup.

JerryB

> I agree but whoever's buying one needs to consider the circumstances under
> which they'll use it. Not everyone is aware of their functional limits.
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> > conditioned
> > vehicle or pop-up. Leaving them in the heat would not work.
 
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