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chantal - 23 Apr 2005 16:33 GMT
on my recent trip, i saw people who have a smaller car like mine, Dodge

Neon, pulling a trailer. I was told there is a way to hitch up a
trailer putting the hitch underneath the bumper or something?????
anyone know how to pull a pop up with out a trailer hitch?
Jim Redelfs - 23 Apr 2005 16:40 GMT
> on my recent trip, i saw people who have a smaller car
> like mine, Dodge Neon, pulling a trailer.

It was, hopefully, a VERY small trailer - with only one or two people in the
Neon.

> I was told there is a way to hitch up a trailer putting
> the hitch underneath the bumper or something?????

It can be done.  However, it may be a challenge to find a *REPUTABLE* place
that will install a hitch on a Neon.

How much is a Neon rated to tow, anyway?  1,000-lbs?  If correct, a small
utility trailer with two, small lawnmowers would probably max it out.

> anyone know how to pull a pop up with out a trailer hitch?

No.  It is impossible to pull a trailer without a trailer hitch.

Good luck!
                :)
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lfm - 23 Apr 2005 20:13 GMT
>> anyone know how to pull a pop up with out a trailer hitch?
>
> No.  It is impossible to pull a trailer without a trailer hitch.

tie a strong rope around the trailer tongue, and have one of your stronger
passengers hold it as you barrel down the highway!

Laura
chantal - 23 Apr 2005 20:32 GMT
What i mean is not a trailer with an RV. I mean a pop-up camper. I had
saw them with their U-hauls and a pop up camper couldn't weight more
than that, could it?
RichA - 23 Apr 2005 21:08 GMT
>What i mean is not a trailer with an RV. I mean a pop-up camper. I had
>saw them with their U-hauls and a pop up camper couldn't weight more
>than that, could it?
Pop ups can go from about 800 lbs. up over 4000.  Pulling anything
with a Neon isn't....well, to good...

Take care and Happy Campin...
RichA
"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
Jim Redelfs - 23 Apr 2005 21:16 GMT
> What i mean is not a trailer with an RV. I mean a pop-up camper. I had
> saw them with their U-hauls and a pop up camper couldn't weight more
> than that, could it?

Well, that all depends on whether the U-Haul trailer was full of puffed rice
or rocks.   <big grin>

Yes, you could pull a *VERY* small popup camping trailer with a Neon.  Even
so, you would have to load the trailer AND car as LIGHTLY as possible.

My sister bought a BRAND NEW Viking 170 popup to pull behind her Subaru Legacy
L station wagon w/4-cylinder engine.  I suspect that she is AT the limit - and
that's with a camper WITHOUT a plumbing, propane or 120VAC electrical system.  
I mean, this camper is *STRIPPED*.

           :)
JR
Rich256 - 23 Apr 2005 22:48 GMT
> What i mean is not a trailer with an RV. I mean a pop-up camper. I had
> saw them with their U-hauls and a pop up camper couldn't weight more
> than that, could it?

Dodge gives it a 1500 pound Maximum tow capability (Properly Equipped)

Those tow capabilities are rated with one passenger and no cargo.  Add
anything else and that must be subtracted from the tow capability.  Rule of
thumb is to not pull more than 75% of the tow capability.   So if you can
find a pop-up that weighs less than 1000 pounds you might get away with it
if you don't pack too much in it.

Properly equipped usually means a minimum of a transmission cooler for an
automatic transmission.

I don't know where you find one that weighs less than 2000 pounds.
chantal - 24 Apr 2005 02:43 GMT
Ok, that makes sense....i guess pop up is out....unless i rented a
truck...argh! I guess i get to stick with my tents
mac davis - 24 Apr 2005 16:24 GMT
>Ok, that makes sense....i guess pop up is out....unless i rented a
>truck...argh! I guess i get to stick with my tents

IF you can find a shop that would put a good quality hitch on your Neon, you'd
spend between $200 and $400 getting it done..

It's custom work, as you can't buy one at Walmart as you can with popular larger
cars... seems cheaper to rent or borrow a truck a few times a year..

mac

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Tony Wesley - 24 Apr 2005 17:03 GMT
> Ok, that makes sense....i guess pop up is out....unless i rented a
> truck...argh! I guess i get to stick with my tents

You get a *small* utility trailer carry extra stuff when you tent camp.
Having a cot in a tent gets you off the ground and that's a big plus
when tent camping.

I have a Focus, my sons have a Neon.  I believe the Focus would be
better at pulling a trailer than then Neon.  And I don't believe my
Focus is up to pulling a popup of any size.
meldx - 25 Apr 2005 12:54 GMT
Chantal, I'll try to remember to take out my CampingQuebec Guide, there
was some very small pop-up canvass all arount (ie: no hard roof) that
seemed to be very light.

I'll post you the site or name

Mel

chantal a écrit:
> Ok, that makes sense....i guess pop up is out....unless i rented a
> truck...argh! I guess i get to stick with my tents
chantal - 26 Apr 2005 02:33 GMT
It seems that even carry a empty trailer would be taxing for the
engine. Is there a hybrid sort or thing that can be place on my roof,
that could be a mixture of canvas, plastic....something more sturder
than tent but not as heavy...???
korey99 - 26 Apr 2005 14:56 GMT
What about the soft-top tent trailers?  There are even some that
motorcycles can pull, but then again, some are pretty large.  I haven't
checked the specs for your application, but here are a few of my
bookmarks to look at to get an idea what I'm talking about:

http://www.jumpingjacktrailers.com/
http://www.livinlite.com/
http://www.leesurelite.com/

I'm sure there are more, but this might be something to look at.  There
are also those little tiny teardrop trailers (again, some designed for
motorcycles), but I can't find those links at the moment.

I do agree with the other respondents though, the neon is a very small
car.

Korey
Karl Lindholm - 27 Apr 2005 14:54 GMT
> I don't know where you find one that weighs less than 2000 pounds.

Our little `96 Taos empty weight is listed as <1000 (barely).  I don't
think Redelf's sister's weighs much more than that.  Several older,
smaller pop-ups could be found that would fit the bill.

I don't know why RV manufacturers are making heavier and heavier
trailers, but the last Taos I saw on the showroom floor had an empty
weight of ~1300, a fridge the only difference between it's equipment and
ours.

Karl & Angela
`02 Durango
`96 Taos
mac davis - 24 Apr 2005 16:21 GMT
>on my recent trip, i saw people who have a smaller car like mine, Dodge
>
>Neon, pulling a trailer. I was told there is a way to hitch up a
>trailer putting the hitch underneath the bumper or something?????
>anyone know how to pull a pop up with out a trailer hitch?

As a past owner of a Neon, (with the largest engine and biggest tires, etc.
available), I'd really recommend that you don't try to tow with it...
The Neon is a cool little car, but it is NOT designed to tow..

Most likely, the most common way to pull a trailer with a Neon is with a tow
truck, after you burn up the transmission and tear up the suspension..

mac

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ltrib2001@yahoo.com - 24 Apr 2005 16:30 GMT
My fully loaded pop-up weighed @ 2000#,  It was a 10'' box, but had an
a/c and we carried lots of stuff.  I think you would be hard pressed to
find one that weighed less than 1500 when ready to pull.
You also need to consider where you're going.  Flat land towing is
different from hilly areas.  Towing is one thing, stopping is another.
Small autos do not have braking systems suited for more than the car.
When on the highway at 60 mph, you have 1500# or more pushing you right
along.  Stopping then becomes another situation.
You may get by with towing with a small auto for a while, but you'll
"use up" your transmission, engine and brakes rather quickly...

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