We have a Coleman Santa Fe which we purchase new in 1999. We're about to
have to get our 4th (FOURTH!!) converter. The first lasted a couple of
years, then died. The second lasted about 2 or 3 years then died. The last
one, a "World Friendship Company, LDT" one was installed last year - and has
now died. We don't camp all that often, when we go to campgrounds we
generally go to ones that have good electrical service (not voltage that
strays all over the map). There doesn't seem to be a problem with our
electrical system but I'm not ruling that out. Our dealer (who I think will
be able to retire off just our converter purchases alone) says that having
to replace converters as often as we have is unusual but that he does
replace a lot of them.
Does this seem pretty out of whack? Does anyone have a converter (name,
brand, capacity please) that they believe is really reliable?
Thanks.
Doug
> We have a Coleman Santa Fe which we purchase new in 1999. We're about to
> have to get our 4th (FOURTH!!) converter. The first lasted a couple of
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> Thanks.
> Doug
Do you mean inverter?
Your usage can have a lot to do with the longevity of them.
As an example only.... I would never pull 2000 watts through an inverter
unless it had a peak/surge wattage of something like 2500 or more. Then I
would be careful of how often I did that. I have been using inverters for
years and have never replaced a one.
Possible that the dealer is not checking all of the wiring and just
installing it back "the way it was".
Anyone else that you can find to look at it?
tobe - 03 Jul 2005 04:01 GMT
> Do you mean inverter?
No, I think he means converter, not inverter. Converters convert AC power
to DC power (for the lights and a few other things in an RV)
Check out:
http://www.rversonline.org/ArtTipsConverter.html
and
http://www.rvdoctor.com/rvdoctor303.html
I would think a converter should last for a long time. It is pretty simple
circuitry. The only moving part is the cooling fan. If that dies, the unit
will cook. Remember, the converter (and therefore the fan) is always
running if you are hooked up to AC power, even if you have nothing connected
or turned on.
Two things I would look for:
1. Incorrect wiring or a short after the converter, putting a load on it
all the time.
2. Fluctuating or spiking AC power coming in at the campground.
You can put a simple voltmeter on the incoming AC power (and there are
fancier testers available). The voltmeter won't check for voltage spikes,
though, only that the voltage is about right and doesn't fluctuate a lot.
You can get an ammeter and put it in the input line to the converter. Then
see how much AC amps it is drawing with nothing turned on. Then unplug the
DC fuses one by one and see if there is a large drop, If so, that circuit
is a peoblem.
HTH
Douglas LeMasters - 03 Jul 2005 05:00 GMT
Thanks. This will be a good start.
Doug
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Two things I would look for:
1. Incorrect wiring or a short after the converter, putting a load on it
all the time.
2. Fluctuating or spiking AC power coming in at the campground.
You can put a simple voltmeter on the incoming AC power (and there are
fancier testers available). The voltmeter won't check for voltage spikes,
though, only that the voltage is about right and doesn't fluctuate a lot.
You can get an ammeter and put it in the input line to the converter. Then
see how much AC amps it is drawing with nothing turned on. Then unplug the
DC fuses one by one and see if there is a large drop, If so, that circuit
is a peoblem.
HTH
SQLit - 03 Jul 2005 15:48 GMT
> Thanks. This will be a good start.
> Doug
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> all the time.
> 2. Fluctuating or spiking AC power coming in at the campground.
Trying to measure fluctuating or spiking power at the campground is only
going to throw you into a tizzy. Accuracy of your meter and its speed at
which it captures information will be a concern. IEEE 519 says basically
that power companies are supposed to maintain +5 to -10% of nominal voltage.
Unfortunately the next paragraph says "except for short periods of time"
A day is a short period of time compared to a year.
Measuring the voltage and assuring that your grounded is about all you will
be able to accomplish.
My measurement equipment can measure spike and sags into nano-seconds.
Want to spend close to $30k for something like that? My O'scope can only
get to mili-seconds, and it was over a grand to purchase. My Fluke 87 was
over $300 and it is the least accurate instrument I own. I would never use
the 87 to determine spikes or sags.
Rich256 - 03 Jul 2005 16:07 GMT
> > Thanks. This will be a good start.
> > Doug
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> Measuring the voltage and assuring that your grounded is about all you will
> be able to accomplish.
That is what Doug said. Measuring voltage is about all that is necessary.
The wiring at many campgrounds are not all they should be. The voltages are
quite often far below specifications.
> We have a Coleman Santa Fe which we purchase new in 1999. We're about to
> have to get our 4th (FOURTH!!) converter.
That's a bit much. I'd be ticked.
> The first lasted a couple of years, then died. The second lasted about 2
> or 3 years then died. The last one, a "World Friendship Company, LDT" one
> was installed last year - and has now died.
I have replaced one converter, and we camp quite a bit (don't know about
days, but the trailer has about 25,000 miles on it).
1) Do you have a battery?
2) Do you leave it plugged in when not in use?
3) Do you make sure the vent areas are never blocked?
> Does anyone have a converter (name, brand, capacity please) that they
> believe is really reliable?
I believe the World Friendship converters are fairly good, but I've only had
1, and only for 2 years.
Austin

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