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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / July 2005

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Strength of folding tongue jack when used with WD hitch

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Mark - 15 Jul 2005 03:28 GMT
It takes a lot of effort to crank my hitch up to get the bars on & off
(Reese mini 350) and even on level pavement I've got the jack nearly
fully-extended.  Lately the jack is hard to fold--it's a little bent
at the mount (but the snap ring still looks straight).  I'm sure
Coleman never intended this jack to lift my van!  I'm considering
welding a "standard" center-mounted jack to the frame but I really
like the folding jack--I always hated the minor inconvenience of
mounting/removing the wheel from the rigid type jack.

Any thoughts?  Anybody break a folding jack in use?

Mark
Coleman Cheyenne
GMC Safari
Kegger - 15 Jul 2005 13:10 GMT
Mark just curious why in the world would your jack be lifting your van? No
the jacks are not made to lift anything other then the tounge weight of the
camper.
If you are indeed lifting the van when you crank It almost sounds like your
ball size is to big and the hitch is holding on tighter then it should to
the ball. You may want to check the adjustment.

> It takes a lot of effort to crank my hitch up to get the bars on & off
> (Reese mini 350) and even on level pavement I've got the jack nearly
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> Coleman Cheyenne
> GMC Safari
Frank Tabor - 15 Jul 2005 14:29 GMT
>Mark just curious why in the world would your jack be lifting your van? No
>the jacks are not made to lift anything other then the tounge weight of the
>camper.
>If you are indeed lifting the van when you crank It almost sounds like your
>ball size is to big and the hitch is holding on tighter then it should to
>the ball. You may want to check the adjustment.

Obviously you never installed the equalizing bars on a weight
distributing hitch.  Go back and reread the original post.
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Frank Tabor

Bob Fay - 15 Jul 2005 23:09 GMT
Nice answer...
Bob

>>Mark just curious why in the world would your jack be lifting your van? No
>>the jacks are not made to lift anything other then the tounge weight of
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> Obviously you never installed the equalizing bars on a weight
> distributing hitch.  Go back and reread the original post.
mac davis - 15 Jul 2005 17:17 GMT
>It takes a lot of effort to crank my hitch up to get the bars on & off
>(Reese mini 350) and even on level pavement I've got the jack nearly
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>Coleman Cheyenne
>GMC Safari

A trick most rv'ers use is a 4x4" block under the jack, or buy a cupped block
is it has a wheel on the end.. this not only gives you more lifting height, it
lets you use less of the jack's length, putting less side stress on it.. YMMV

(some day, I'm gonna put a power hitch jack on our TT)

mac

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Mark - 15 Jul 2005 22:19 GMT
I do use blocks when the rig is on an incline.  Height isn't the
concern--it's strength (and safety).

>>It takes a lot of effort to crank my hitch up to get the bars on & off
>>(Reese mini 350) and even on level pavement I've got the jack nearly
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>Please remove splinters before emailing
Jim Redelfs - 17 Jul 2005 21:08 GMT
> (some day, I'm gonna put a power hitch jack on our TT)

You DON'T HAVE ONE?!?!??

If this isn't Item ONE on your "to get" list, it SHOULD be.

I learned A LOT from my folks during the 14 years they were 6-1/2-month
"snowbirds".  They enjoyed three TTs and one FW.  A power jack was high on
their list of "must haves".

When I bought our TT in May, 2000, part of the new trailer setup (and
appropriate increase in purchase price) was an Atwood power jack.

I think I'd rather have to use the campground facilities than NOT have a power
tongue jack.

Considering that I use the tongue jack to raise the BACK of the Silverado to
ease the anchoring of the WDH spring bars, I can't imagine doing it with a
hand crank.

       :)
JR
mac davis - 18 Jul 2005 17:49 GMT
>> (some day, I'm gonna put a power hitch jack on our TT)
>
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>        :)
>JR

we went into rv'ing as total newbies, Jim...

I advice folks on the RV forum to do what I SHOULD have done... build a power
hitch jack, fantastic fan and vent covers into the price of the RV, cuz you
aren't going to want to buy them later, out of pocket..
We added the fan and covers the 2nd year, but not the power jack..

We had the TT on the road for the first time in over a year this weekend, and
since it was 108 at home, the vent covers were a huge help... really felt funny
towing though, after so long.. lol

mac

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AustinMN - 16 Jul 2005 18:17 GMT
> It takes a lot of effort to crank my hitch up to get the bars on & off
> (Reese mini 350) and even on level pavement I've got the jack nearly
> fully-extended.

Never do that again.

I've used a Reese Mini-350 for about 5 years on a trailer with over 20,000
miles on it.  I've connected hundreds of times.  This is the hardest way to
install the spring bars.  Eventually, my tongue jack failed (I don't know if
the failure was the result of doing this or because it was defective).

What I do now is near-jacknife the trailer.  This way I don't need to jack
_at_all_ to get the bars on (only the inside bar can go on this way, so you
need to jacknife in both directions).  No jacking, no struggling.  They come
off just as easily this way.  My DW is willing to take the trailer without
me because she can do this by herself.

If there isn't enough room and you still must jack, raise the rear wheels of
the tow vehicle first.  I use three linx levelers on each side to raise the
rear wheels 2", which proably cuts the jacking force and distance in half.
More height makes it easier, so if you can raise them 3 or even 4 inches, go
for it.  Another approach on the same lines is to stop the TV with the rear
wheels on the top of a speed bump.  The basic idea is to get the rear wheels
of the tow vehicle several inches above both the front wheels and the
trailer wheels.

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> Any thoughts?  Anybody break a folding jack in use?

My folding jack failed in use, but not while mounting spring bars.  I was
jacking to level the trailer, and I realized I was turning the crank but it
wasn't going up.  I stopped turning, and realized it was going down.  The
trailer nose slid down until it was setting on the ground.  The threads of
the cast iron screw had sheared off.  It was many years ago, and I don't
remember what the replacement jack cost; I installed it myself fairly
quickly once I figured out how to deal with the retaining spring.

Austin
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