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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / August 2005

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1975 Apache or Alpines?

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Claire (Mason) Blais - 01 Aug 2005 19:11 GMT
Well I've been looking like crazy for a chalet tent trailer since I saw
one - haven't run across any used ones - but did run across some information
on Alpine tent trailers - but no pictures and some guy has a 1974 Apache
Tent Trailor for sale - but I have no information on either Alpine or 1974
Apache tent trailors - anybody got any ideas on where I can see what they
look like and read up on them?  - Thanks in advance
Claire
Richard McBane - 01 Aug 2005 20:41 GMT
> Well I've been looking like crazy for a chalet tent trailer since I saw
> one - haven't run across any used ones - but did run across some information
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> look like and read up on them?  - Thanks in advance
> Claire

Rather than tent campers, are you possibly looking for information on
hard-sided A-frame campers manufactured by Chalet and Aliner?  If so see:

http://www.chaletrv.com/
http://www.aliner.com/

There is a Yahoo discussion group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/alinerchaleta-frames/
and an owners club for Aliners that includes for sale listings at:
http://www.alinerclub.org/
Claire (Mason) Blais - 02 Aug 2005 00:05 GMT
Yes- I know they don't have canvas - but some call them pop ups anyway
because of the design - now I just have to find information on the 1974
Apahce
Thanks Richard for the web site addresses - it's very helpful to know all
the information - even if it's on the new ones - i'm looking for used - and
the Alinder web site does have a link to some used ones
Thanks again.

Claire

> > Well I've been looking like crazy for a chalet tent trailer since I saw
> > one - haven't run across any used ones - but did run across some information
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> and an owners club for Aliners that includes for sale listings at:
> http://www.alinerclub.org/
Jim Redelfs - 02 Aug 2005 00:28 GMT
> 1974 Apache Tent Trailor

A 31-year-old tent trailer?

It would HAVE to have been COMPLETELY restored *AND* stored in a vacuum before
I'd even CONSIDER such an ancient camper.

My (bought new) 1987 Starcraft - with replaced canvas - was virtually ALL used
up after 13-years when we traded it in.

Good luck.  You'll need it.

          :\
JR
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Claire (Mason) Blais - 02 Aug 2005 02:34 GMT
Aparently they are made with ABS sides - and well insulated - and if they
have been well cared for even a 1974 can be a very good buy - so I'm told -
but I don't know what they look like - the Chalet and Alpines look a lot
alike - and friends of our have one that is in better shape than most
traditional pop ups that I've seen that are 5 years old or so - and theirs
is from the late 70's ?????  just trying to do some research - before I
actually go out to buy.  My back can't take lifting much weight up - so I'm
looking for something light and afordable. :-)

> > 1974 Apache Tent Trailor
>
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> 2002 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD
> Vortec 8100 - Allison 1000
Jim Redelfs - 02 Aug 2005 03:05 GMT
> Aparently they are made with ABS sides

I remember them.  I found a photo collection of a 1976 model:

http://www.maxitear.com/bravosframe.htm

> and well insulated

Of that I am rather skeptical.  In order to fold down compactly, they would
have to be rather THIN sheets of plastic.  I understood they are simply a
"thickness" of plastic.  That wouldn't be "well" insulated.  Then again, they
can't be "worse" than canvas in that regard.

> if they have been well cared for even a 1974 can be a
> very good buy - so I'm told

There's the big variable.  Most RVs, of any kind, are stored OUTDOORS.  The
biggest issue with virtually ANY used RV is water penetration.  It was an
unchecked leak that doomed my Starcraft:  The floor rotted-out beneath our
feet.

> I don't know what they look like

Now you do!   <grin>

If you like that "retro" 70's look, complete with garish oranges and greens,
an old Apache may be just what you're looking for.

> My back can't take lifting much weight up - so I'm
> looking for something light

Light?  As in TOWING weight or set-up effort required?

You'll probably find an old Apache to be rather HEAVY when it comes to towing.  
I wouldn't count on towing it with 4-cylinders.

> and afordable.

I would expect a 31-year-old folding camper, even in excellent condition, to
be VERY affordable.

As before, good luck and have fun!

        :)
JR
Claire (Mason) Blais - 02 Aug 2005 14:59 GMT
Thanks for the photos Jim! I did find a site exclusive to them and they had
a published list of what to watch out for excetra - which will be very handy
for when I go looking - Looks like they will be heavier than what I will be
able to tow - evidenced by your photos where they were using a station wagon
(vintage even for that time) - I drive a RAV 4 and my hubby has a compact
GMC truck (6 cyl)
Good tip to look for water problems - expecially where I live (Vancouver
Island) - it rains here a lot - most people who store there RV's outdoors -
tarp them up due to the amount and frequency of the rainfall we get - sorry
about your Starcraft :-(
Light as in both set up (and take down)  and towing -
Thanks for your help - hopefully I'll be able to take the grandchildren
camping before the summer's all gone.

Claire

> > Aparently they are made with ABS sides
>
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>          :)
> JR
Chris - 02 Aug 2005 03:21 GMT
- anybody got any ideas on where I can see what they
> look like and read up on them?  - Thanks in advance
> Claire

A museum ?    I haven't seen one of those in years and if I remember
they weren't built that great.
 
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