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Question Re: Water system sanitization

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Dave Priven - 09 Sep 2005 04:49 GMT
For the last two years my clear water tank (about 8 gal.) has been mostly
empty and unused because I was too lazy to look for and replace a bad galley
pump.

I am now the proud owner of a new working galley pump.

My problem is I need to sanitize my system before I use it.  I know I can
use chlorine bleach to do this; but I don't know for how long I should leave
it in the tank and/or how much bleach to my 8 gal. of water.

Your information will be appreciated

Tnx

Dave
'73 Western Field in amazingly good shape for its age
No-One - 09 Sep 2005 06:24 GMT
You could try about 1/2 cup of bleach w/6 gallons of water ... let stand
for at least three hours before draining...

> For the last two years my clear water tank (about 8 gal.) has been mostly
> empty and unused because I was too lazy to look for and replace a bad galley
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> Dave
> '73 Western Field in amazingly good shape for its age
Jim Redelfs - 09 Sep 2005 13:03 GMT
> You could try about 1/2 cup of bleach w/6 gallons of water ... let stand
> for at least three hours before draining...

I agree.

Also, be sure to run some treated water THROUGH the system - and new galley
pump - before beginning the "let stand" period.

If your water tank is portable, pick it up a couple of times during this
process to agitate the contents then run a little more through the system.  If
it's a fixed tank, agitate the trailer.  This is accomplished by towing it
around the block a couple of times.  The same thing might be accomplished by
retracting the stabilizers and JUMPING on the bumper.  Be sure to SECURE the
trailer before doing this so it doesn't roll away.  An easy way to secure the
trailer is hitching it to the tow vehicle.

Running a dilution of vinegar and water through the system following
sanitizing will help remove the chlorine odor.  Again, agitation of the
storage tank will ensure that those areas that are not submerged during the
process receive some treatment.

Good luck!
                :)
JR
Mark Filice - 09 Sep 2005 18:10 GMT
>Running a dilution of vinegar and water through the system following
>sanitizing will help remove the chlorine odor.  Again, agitation of the
>storage tank will ensure that those areas that are not submerged during the
>process receive some treatment.

I brew beer at home--so sanitizing is a key component of making beer. When it
comes to sanitizing my RV tank, I use the same stuff--Iodophor Sanitizer. It is
available at any homebrew store that does wine or beer. It is a common
sanitizing agent used in bars and restaurants.

It takes very little--and no rinsing.

Mark Filice
2004 Homestead Settler 255RS
1999 Chevrolet Suburban 2500
Steve Kranz - 10 Sep 2005 01:36 GMT
> I brew beer at home--so sanitizing is a key component of making beer. When it
> comes to sanitizing my RV tank, I use the same stuff--Iodophor Sanitizer. It is
> available at any homebrew store that does wine or beer. It is a common
> sanitizing agent used in bars and restaurants.
>
> It takes very little--and no rinsing.

All of that is true and correct about Iodophor...and I've been brewing
for 10+ years and never thought to use it for sanitizing my camper's
water system.  Huh...

It requires 1 tablespoon of Iodophor for five gallons of water.  Contact
time is about 15 minutes at that dilution...but as mentioned in a
previous post, you still have to either fill your whole tank and add
enough sanitizer for the full volume, or drive your camper around to
slosh the sanitizer around in the tank.  And don't forget to pump it
through your whole plumbing system to sanitize everything.

Negatives about Iodophor:

1.  It's not as dirt cheap as chlorine (a quart is about $12-15), but it
should be much simpler since you'd be able to skip the water/vinegar
rinse stage that's necessary with chlorine in order to neutralize its
smell & taste.

2.  If you use it in any stronger dilution than 1 tbs. per 5 gallons,
you might detect a faint but harmless iodine aroma and taste in your
water unless you flush it out of your system first.

3.  It is a dark (iodine) liquid which can permanently stain white and
transluscent plastics, if that matters to you.

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Wesley - 10 Sep 2005 01:56 GMT
How about city water?  Does have stuff in it that will tend to somewhat
sanitize the tank when you pour it in?  I know I can occasionally taste the
chlorine in the water...  Of course that won't help us in another month when
we move to the country and have well water...

Wesley

> All of that is true and correct about Iodophor...and I've been brewing
> for 10+ years and never thought to use it for sanitizing my camper's
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> 3.  It is a dark (iodine) liquid which can permanently stain white and
> transluscent plastics, if that matters to you.
Steve Kranz - 10 Sep 2005 16:40 GMT
> How about city water?  Does have stuff in it that will tend to somewhat
> sanitize the tank when you pour it in?  I know I can occasionally taste the
> chlorine in the water...  Of course that won't help us in another month when
> we move to the country and have well water...
>
> Wesley

City water won't effectively sanitize a buggy water tank and plumbing
system.  It has chlorine or, more likely, chloramine to keep already
disinfected water safe.  But if your system is harboring bacteria or
virus bugs, mold, fungus, etc. you need a robust sanitizer of sufficient
strength and contact time.

From the U.S. EPA:
"Chloramines are weaker disinfectants than chlorine, but are more
stable, thus extending disinfectant benefits throughout a water
utility's distribution system. They are not used as the primary
disinfectant for your water.  Chloramines are used for maintaining a
disinfectant residual in the distribution system so that disinfected
drinking water is kept safe."

Bottom line for me is that city water does not have sufficient levels of
disinfecting chloramine (or chlorine, for that matter) to effectively
sanitize a camper's drinking water system.

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No-One - 10 Sep 2005 17:03 GMT
Exercise common sense if using iodophor .... Rinse after using.

"Excessive iodine intake (extended consumption of about 0.75 milligrams
per day) can cause iodine goiter, a condition characterized by
enlargement of the thyroid gland. One ounce of a 25 ppm iodophor
solution contains 0.75 milligrams of iodine. To leave that much
sanitizer on your equipment would correspond to very careless technique."
Chris Cowles - 10 Sep 2005 22:15 GMT
> Exercise common sense if using iodophor .... Rinse after using.
>
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> solution contains 0.75 milligrams of iodine. To leave that much
> sanitizer on your equipment would correspond to very careless technique."

Any normal sanitizing process should not be a problem. Note the reference to
EXTENDED consumption. Even if you got that dose out of the first tank full,
it will still be minimal, overall.
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Gainesville, FL
'00 Coleman Mesa/'05 Durango Hemi

Richard Thomas - 01 Oct 2006 22:36 GMT
>How about city water?  Does have stuff in it that will tend to somewhat
>sanitize the tank when you pour it in?  I know I can occasionally taste the
>chlorine in the water...  Of course that won't help us in another month when
>we move to the country and have well water...

There are standard for how much city water you need to run before a
system is considered "sanitized". I can't remember (my father worked
in water quality so it's kind-of osmotic (pardon the pun)) the exact
numbers but to run that much water through the kind of system you're
discussing would be extremely tedious.

Rich
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