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Cooking in a Popup-Opinions?

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Jeff - 20 Sep 2005 04:05 GMT
SOme may recall I finally got "Off the Ground". I am/was going to let my
brother and his wife use my trailer temporarily until he gets into a house,
about 2-4 weeks. Were in the Katrina zone (Southern MS) so right now its
sort of hard to find one, anyway an issue has come up. I said no cooking
inside the trailer. The stove has never been used and I dont plan on using
it. Of course his wife (Not him) is having a fit about cooking outside. Do
you cook inside your popup? I would think this would cause the inside to be
ruined even with ventilation, in fact I am even considering taking the whole
stove out and just leaving the sink and adding a refridgerator (It's a
Coleman with a Coleman feezer). So what are your opinions on that? Cooking
inside is OK or NOT OK?

Thanks
J
Searcher1 - 20 Sep 2005 04:13 GMT
We do not cook in our pop up either, and ours is an 81 Coleman. I don't like
the smells that linger, Its just so much easier to cook outdoors on the
Coleman camp stove. Theres really no room to move around, the heat build up
is outrageous, unless of course its winter time. In the winter we will boil
water for coffee or tea, but thats it.

Searcher1
Chris - 20 Sep 2005 04:51 GMT
> SOme may recall I finally got "Off the Ground". I am/was going to let my
> brother and his wife use my trailer temporarily until he gets into a house,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks
> J

Jeff,

Congrats on the new camper.  I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

I cook in mine when its cold and windy outside and when its raining and
when I want jiffy pop at 1:00 am!  I open the flaps and let it air out,
no smells.  Mines 6 years old.  Did the same thing in the old one.  I'd
of course let your SIL cook in it, but thats your call.  If you don't it
sure won't kill her to cook outside for a few weeks.  Tell her the
pioneers did it.  I've got a little dinky fridge in mine.  I never use
it because I have to pop the thing all the way up to pack it since my
galley folds down in front of it.  I just pack the cooler.  If I'm gonna
stop for a picnic or have a drink (maybe I should have said soft drink)
on the way up and back I like having the cooler in my tow vehicle.  I do
use the fridge about once a year when I stay for a whole week.  And then
its not big enough so I still end up using the cooler.  If you think
you'd use that Coleman fridge/freezer more than the stove then go for
it!  I wouldn't, but thats just me.  Everybody is different.  Everybody
has different methods, systems of doing things and likes and dislikes.  
Do what works for you and makes you happy!  

Happy Camping!

Chris
Chris Havel - 20 Sep 2005 05:21 GMT
> SOme may recall I finally got "Off the Ground". I am/was going to let my
> brother and his wife use my trailer temporarily until he gets into a house,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks
> J

I cook in my 2001 Taos all the time. I slip down the door panel, unzip
part of a window above the stove. No odors, no grease, no mess. At the
end of the season, I wipe down with a mild bleach solution and mop, and
that's it. You might consider just asking for no cooking foods with
strong aromas (like fish).

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Mark Jones - 20 Sep 2005 05:28 GMT
> SOme may recall I finally got "Off the Ground". I am/was going to let
> my brother and his wife use my trailer temporarily until he gets into
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Coleman feezer). So what are your opinions on that? Cooking inside is
> OK or NOT OK?

I cook inside my 2005 Fleetwood Niagara every day when I am
using it. It has a 3 burner range and a microwave oven and
of course they get used.
Randall - 21 Sep 2005 04:13 GMT
....
>> I said no cooking inside the trailer. The stove has never been used
>> and I dont plan on using it. Of course his wife (Not him) is having a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> using it. It has a 3 burner range and a microwave oven and
> of course they get used.

I own a 2004 FW Redwood (not made anymore) and we cook inside all the time.
It is nice to hear from another Highlander owner - don't you love them!

Randall
Mark Jones - 21 Sep 2005 04:26 GMT
> ....
>>> I said no cooking inside the trailer. The stove has never been used
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> time. It is nice to hear from another Highlander owner - don't you
> love them!

They are great. The closest that I could get to a travel trailer and
still be able to store it in my garage in the winter. I intend to head
out again in the next 2 or 3 weeks before it is time to put it away
until warm weather returns.

Exterior photo (150 Kbytes)
http://home.mindspring.com/~mejones/HST_State_Park_sml.jpg
Randall - 21 Sep 2005 09:04 GMT
>>> I cook inside my 2005 Fleetwood Niagara every day when I am
>>> using it. It has a 3 burner range and a microwave oven and
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Exterior photo (150 Kbytes)
> http://home.mindspring.com/~mejones/HST_State_Park_sml.jpg

Very Nice!  Mine is one of the only models made that does not include the
shower.  You hit it exactly - we  have a double deep garage (roughly 4
spaces) and we can store it inside year round.  That's something you can't
do with a TT!  We also have two more camping trips scheduled before we park
it for the winter.

BTW I installed a WD 400 hitch and haven't used a antisway bar since.  The
darn thing tracks perfectly no matter the cross wind or semi-truck passing.
I highly recommend one.

Randall

2004 Fleetwood Redwood
2003 Toyota Sequoia
Mark Jones - 21 Sep 2005 12:55 GMT
>>>> I cook inside my 2005 Fleetwood Niagara every day when I am
>>>> using it. It has a 3 burner range and a microwave oven and
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> The darn thing tracks perfectly no matter the cross wind or
> semi-truck passing. I highly recommend one.

I am towing with a 2004 F-150 4x4 with a tow rating of 9000 pounds,
so this pop-up is not an issue. I could even tow a fairly good size
travel trailer with this truck with no problems.
Gerry Pierce - 20 Sep 2005 19:33 GMT
Cooking  inside is OK or NOT OK?

Jeff, we have a Coleman with the inside stove (3 burner) and outside high
pressure stove (2 burner).  We use the hp stove much more than the other,
but I do not sweat cooking inside.  Crack a window and have at it. The
camper is set up outside enough that it airs the odors out (woodsmoke
usually is the smell anyhow).  Honestly, IMHO, there are bigger things to
worry about than cooking inside the PU.  A bottle of febreeze may help, as
would a good scrubbing of the canvas from the outside if odors really
persist.  My only concern would be FRIED food cooked inside..... those
spatters are hard to clean up.

YMMV

--
Gerry and Robyn
99 Mesa
01 Sporttrac
AustinMN - 20 Sep 2005 20:48 GMT
> I said no cooking
> inside the trailer. The stove has never been used and I dont plan on using
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Coleman with a Coleman feezer). So what are your opinions on that? Cooking
> inside is OK or NOT OK?

Cooking is usually OK inside, although not a good idea if you
frequently camp in bear territory.  We found cooking on the inside
stove to be a bit frustrating at times, though, because the inside
stove in our 2000 Bayside just doesn't put out enough heat.  I'm not
sure which pop-up you have, but I have heard the same complaint about a
few other brands, so your in-laws may find it easier to cook outside
anyway.

We used our pop-up continuously (on the road) once for 8 weeks.  About
1/4 of our meals were cooked in the pop-up at that time (42 meals).  We
also lived in the pop-up for 5-6 weeks when waiting for our house to
close, with about 1/8 of the meals being cooked in the pop-up (about 15
meals).  Neither I nor PJay have found any negative effects from it.
But like another poster said, spatters from heavy fat frying can be
very difficult to get out of the canvas and should be avoided.

Austin
Es - 21 Sep 2005 00:39 GMT
I have a 1988 Coleman.  Never have cooked a meal in it.  We do boil
water in it for tea.  The cooking smoke, odor, grease what ever you
call it will affect the resale or the longevity of the "Evolution"
(canvas). We also have never had allowed smoking in it...
AustinMN - 21 Sep 2005 02:09 GMT
> I have a 1988 Coleman.  Never have cooked a meal in it.

This makes you a non-expert in the next part:

> The cooking smoke, odor, grease what ever you
> call it will affect the resale or the longevity of the "Evolution"
> (canvas).

Are you serious?  Do you ever camp in campgrounds or near campfires?
Either of those will put a lot more smoke odor in your canvas than
cooking...unless your cooking is typically burned to smoking or
something.

Resale value?

Good grief!

Austin
Jim Redelfs - 21 Sep 2005 04:31 GMT
> > The cooking smoke, odor, grease what ever you
> > call it will affect the resale or the longevity of the "Evolution"
> > (canvas).

> Are you serious?

I believe he was.

> Do you ever camp in campgrounds or near campfires?  Either of those
> will put a lot more smoke odor in your canvas than cooking...

I agree.  I recall perhaps 3 or 4 times, in the 13 years we popped-up, running
into the camper to zip-up the flaps (buttoned-up the WHOLE camper) to keep a
neighbor's campfire smoke from "nuking" my home.

Anti-campfire curmudgeon Mode: ON

I am ANYTHING but a "big" campfire guy.  (That's an understatement.)  I
believe a campfire should include a utilitarian function, NOT be built/burned
for simple ambience or a mechanism to make 'smores.

Campfires on a hot July night drive me nuts.  (too late)

> Resale value?
>
> Good grief!

Again, I agree.  I buy [whatever] for ME.  The subsequent buyer, if any, is
rarely considered when buying or using [whatever] and then certainly not
anywhere near the top ten of importance.

           :)
JR
Es - 21 Sep 2005 21:44 GMT
Damn girls did you put me in my place.

BTW, Did you know most pop-up owners trade in their pop-up within 3
years for a hard wall camper or get rid of camper completely. My
relatives who would rather sell campers than camp. Love these owners
who don't think about their "short-term ownership" "trade in
deductibles".

My guess we are very similar campers.  We have pop-up because we
want to camp. If we wanted "hard walls" we would stay home.

We camp at least 70 nights per summer.  You got it, we have summers
off.

Our pop-up has multiple times crossed the US, trans Canadian highway
and survived the Alaska Highway three times. Now that road can dent
a Coleman.

Btw, our camper smells like a smokehouse and we still don't cook in
it.

So girls, why don't we stop pissing on the campfire, hook on, find
some green wood, and take an extra long weekend camping.

The trees are beginning to color in Vermont.
Jim Redelfs - 23 Sep 2005 17:26 GMT
> Damn girls did you put me in my place.

That's odd.  None of these comments were directed AT you.  What's with the
gender reference?

> BTW, Did you know most pop-up owners trade in their pop-up within 3
> years for a hard wall camper or get rid of camper completely.

I'm not sure if I'd heard that before but I certainly BELIEVE it.  Every Fall
there are for sale ads for barely used popups and other RVs where one or the
other spouse decided that camping (RVing) was NOT for them.

I just spent $708 having a new water tank and pump installed on my cheapie
travel trailer.

> My relatives who would rather sell campers than camp. Love these
> owners who don't think about their "short-term ownership" "trade
> in deductibles".

Especially with an RV which, as a broad group, DEPRECIATE very quickly, and
popups in particular, the DIFFERENCE in value from having cooked in it, or
not, is small, at least.

> My guess we are very similar campers.  We have pop-up because we
> want to camp.

Ooops.  Ya might "lurk" a few days before posting.  More than a few of us have
moved OVER (not up) to The Hard Side<tm>.  We had a popup when we got into
this group and have stayed on despite our change of type of camping vehicle.

> If we wanted "hard walls" we would stay home.

Not I, said the duck.   :)

I spent last weekend ALL BY MYSELF (with my lab dog) under the canopy of my
camper, encamped in a primitive site 35-miles from home.  During that time I
missed two weddings and their respective receptions that followed.  I was in a
state of BLISS!

         :)
JR
Doc - 26 Sep 2005 01:00 GMT
> My guess we are very similar campers.  We have pop-up because we
> want to camp. If we wanted "hard walls" we would stay home.
-
Speak for yourself!  I have a hard side popup!!  We camp, or try to, every
summer.  Somehow we haven't gone the last 2 or 3 summers but still have the
popup and will go again!  And I will still have "hard walls".  
-
-
Jim Redelfs - 21 Sep 2005 04:19 GMT
> Cooking inside is OK or NOT OK?

It's OK, especially if it is the preference of the person doing the cooking.

Always remember:   There is a special place in heaven for women that camp.

If they want to cook inside the camper, more power to them.  In the 13 years
we had our popup, we probably cooked OUTside fewer than a dozen times.

Always remember:  This is CAMPING.  If it doesn't hurt BADLY and/or CO$T a
lot, you can sweat it later.

(For Sale ads for used RVs regularly mention "non-smoker(s)" and "no pets".  
They NEVER say "never cooked in".  It's not a big deal.)

            :)
JR
David Malone - 21 Sep 2005 18:16 GMT
>If they want to cook inside the camper, more power to them.  In the 13 years
>we had our popup, we probably cooked OUTside fewer than a dozen times.

Our Jayco has an inside/outside stove. The first thing we do is
install it outside so we've never cooked inside. I also have a
wonderful Weber Q BBQ so in fact most of the cooking is done on
that...

As for re-sale, my wife will walk into a trailer and reject it
instantly if it's been cooked or smoked in. She has a nose like a
bloodhound... (grin).

David "The Hamster" Malone
www.hamstertales.com
Mark Jones - 21 Sep 2005 22:51 GMT
>> If they want to cook inside the camper, more power to them.  In the
>> 13 years we had our popup, we probably cooked OUTside fewer than a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> instantly if it's been cooked or smoked in. She has a nose like a
> bloodhound... (grin).

I am glad that I am not this anal.
David Malone - 22 Sep 2005 14:15 GMT
>I am glad that I am not this anal.

I'm sure from this post that you have other... er... redeeming
qualities.

David "The Hamster" Malone
www.hamstertales.com
Jim Redelfs - 23 Sep 2005 17:14 GMT
> I am glad that I am not this anal.

Well, I was THINKING that but YOU had the nerve to WRITE it.  Hehehe!

           :)
JR
Gerry Pierce - 22 Sep 2005 20:00 GMT
"As for re-sale, my wife will walk into a trailer and reject it
instantly if it's been cooked or smoked in. She has a nose like a
bloodhound... (grin)."

I have cooked garlic toast on the griddle inside, talk about smoking the
place up.... but when I open my camper, you know what I smell??

Woodsmoke.  To me, that is the best smell in the world, brings camping to
mind even if I am just driving through the neighborhood and smell a
fireplace.

Having both the HP outside and LP inside stove gives us the ability to cook
a major meal, just like at home, just have to be smart about what gets
cooked where.
Of course, if I only had an LP indoor/outdoor stove, it would stay OUTSIDE
as there is much more room available for manuevering.
Jim Redelfs - 23 Sep 2005 17:13 GMT
> As for re-sale, my wife will walk into a trailer and reject it
> instantly if it's been cooked or smoked in.

She is a NEW RV salesdroid's ideal buyer.

          :)
JR
Rockett Crawford - 26 Sep 2005 22:10 GMT
> SOme may recall I finally got "Off the Ground". I am/was going to let my
> brother and his wife use my trailer temporarily until he gets into a house,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Coleman with a Coleman feezer). So what are your opinions on that? Cooking
> inside is OK or NOT OK?

It depends on the person. We've had our popup for 3 years. Cooked literally
hundreds
of  meals in it, no problem. I like the convenience of cooking inside, near
the fridge,
and there's no bugs buzzing around you and landing on your food.

Some people obviously prefer to cook outside and more power to them. I doubt
it
would cause any damage to the trailer or affect it's resell value as popups
are designed
to be cooked in.

My 2 cents,

Rockett Crawford
2002 Coleman Westlake

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