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Transportable Gray Water Tanks

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Jim Redelfs - 04 Nov 2005 03:42 GMT
When I had my popup, for those times it was necessary to capture and transport
gray water, I used a ten-gallon Tote-Along (aka Blue Tank; Turd Tank).  It fit
nicely inside the closed camper between outings.

I now use a 30-gallon Tote-Along, Original model (two wheeled).  I am VERY
pleased with the performance.  Considering the price, I should be.

http://www.barkermfg.com/product_pages/tote_alongs.html

http://www.campingworld.com/browse/products/index.cfm?prodID=1571&src=SRQB

I suggest you do NOT purchase the 15-gallon model that is marketed
specifically for a popup camper.  Due to its intentional, low-profile and WIDE
carriage, this type of tank has been reported to be VERY difficult to handle,
particularly when full.  (15-gallons = ~124.5-pounds)  It is NOT designed or
equipped to be towed behind a vehicle.

Considering the weight of a full, ten-gallon tank (~83-pounds), that size
should be considered the largest that can be reasonably placed into the back
of the tow vehicle for transport to a dump site.

          :)
JR
Dale & Betty - 04 Nov 2005 04:50 GMT
Jim,
   I'm not sure where you are coming from.  I got the 15 gallon
because our Cheyenne drained the grey water through the floor
which meant the tank had to go under the camper.  With sloping
terrains the thin design was mandatory. The on-line graphic
showed a loop in the tow handle that would fit over a tow
ball-hitch when I ordered it.  When I got it there was only a 'T'
handle and no loop to fit over a ball. The couple of times that I
needed to tow it behind the truck (with a rope loop) I had no
problems at a fast walking speed. I will say that we never had it
'full'.  If we didn't  already have the 15 gal. 'blue tank I
would have probably opted for the 30 with the new pop-out because
that is the size of our current holding tanks. Haven't had to use
it with the new rig yet so time will tell...
Dale

> When I had my popup, for those times it was necessary to capture and transport
> gray water, I used a ten-gallon Tote-Along (aka Blue Tank; Turd Tank).  It fit
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>
> http://www.barkermfg.com/product_pages/tote_alongs.html

http://www.campingworld.com/browse/products/index.cfm?prodID=1571&src=SRQB

> I suggest you do NOT purchase the 15-gallon model that is marketed
> specifically for a popup camper.  Due to its intentional, low-profile and WIDE
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>            :)
> JR
Jim Redelfs - 04 Nov 2005 13:26 GMT
> I'm not sure where you are coming from.

I'm just reporting what I've heard here over the years:  The low, flat and
wide tank, designed to go under a popup camper, was particularly difficult to
handle when full due mostly to its shape.

> When I got it there was only a 'T'
> handle and no loop to fit over a ball.

It was my mistake to say it couldn't be towed behind a vehicle.  The Camping
World description says "hand tow bracket" but the manufacturer says it CAN be
towed (walking speed) behind a vehicle with the proper accessory bracket.  I
suspect, however, that is a typographical error as it comes with the
aforementioned HAND tow bracket and your experience of having to FASHION a way
to tow it behind a vehicle.  You'll notice all the "towable" models have much
larger rear wheels.

A gray water drain that goes through the FLOOR is something I've never seen or
heard of before.  In that case, UNDER the camper would be a good (only?) place
for such a tank.  Can I assume it does NOT fit INSIDE a closed, popup camper?

           :)
JR
Chris Cowles - 04 Nov 2005 14:38 GMT
> I'm just reporting what I've heard here over the years:  The low, flat and
> wide tank, designed to go under a popup camper, was particularly difficult
> to
> handle when full due mostly to its shape.

I'm one that has reported that problem. Because it was wide, the tank
sagged. Because it was low-profile, the ground clearance was minimal.
Between the sagging and the low ground clearance, it wouldn't roll, it
dragged. It was especially bad on rough terrain, because bumps in the ground
and road were higher than the clearance, even if it wasn't sagging.

On top of that, sagging put pressure on the axle, held in place only by a
few molded bumps in a channel on the outside. Mine popped out of place
several times, and was hard to put back in.

The tank was a real PIA and made it hard to have good intentions about
keeping the camp clean. I ditched it and bought one with a more rectangular
shape, like those from Barker. (Mine is a different manufacturer, same
idea.) I don't regret for a moment having spent the money. It fits easily
inside the door of the camper when stowed.
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Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL
'00 Coleman Mesa/'05 Durango Hemi

AustinMN - 04 Nov 2005 19:07 GMT
> > I'm just reporting what I've heard here over the years:  The low, flat and
> > wide tank, designed to go under a popup camper, was particularly difficult
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> idea.) I don't regret for a moment having spent the money. It fits easily
> inside the door of the camper when stowed.

I'm still using mine, but it is a PITA, and definitely should not be
towed very far or very fast.  I tried to talk PJay into getting
something else, but because she doesn't have to deal with it (she has
me for that) it was not a priority. :-(

Oh, it has two new wheels because I tried to tow it too far and too
fast (1/4 mile to the dump station).

Austin
Tomes - 04 Nov 2005 19:58 GMT
My Coleman Rio Grande Destiny has a bottom mounted drain hole for gray
water.  We just do the bucket thing.
Tomes

<snip>
> A gray water drain that goes through the FLOOR is something I've never seen or
> heard of before.  In that case, UNDER the camper would be a good (only?) place
> for such a tank.  Can I assume it does NOT fit INSIDE a closed, popup camper?
>
>             :)
> JR
Dale & Betty - 06 Nov 2005 03:42 GMT
Jim,
   Thanks for the info.  We haven't used it that much, and never
filled it to capacity so have been lucky and not had any
problems.  We, like you, have now moved out of the pop-up camper
(to a Caravan) but kept the blue tank; just in case.  We tow with
a pickup, so always have put the blue tank in the back of the
truck.
Dale

> > I'm not sure where you are coming from.
>
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>             :)
> JR
Chris Cowles - 05 Nov 2005 04:36 GMT
> Jim,
>    I'm not sure where you are coming from.  I got the 15 gallon
> because our Cheyenne drained the grey water through the floor
> which meant the tank had to go under the camper.

I used to have an old Coleman with a floor drain, as well. Even if the drain
is through the floor, nothing prevents you from running a short hose from
the male connection under the floor, to the male connection on a drain tank
on the ground just outside the trailer frame.
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Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL
'00 Coleman Mesa/'05 Durango Hemi

Dale & Betty - 06 Nov 2005 03:22 GMT
Chris,
   You are right; nothing prevents one from using a longer
lash-up except that it doesn't work worth a d@rnm! The sink takes
forever to drain and you to have play with the hoses, at times,
to get it to drain at all. With the straight short hose to the
under trailer tank that sucking sound as the last of the water
goes down the drain is very sweet.
Dale

> > Jim,
> >    I'm not sure where you are coming from.  I got the 15 gallon
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> the male connection under the floor, to the male connection on a drain tank
> on the ground just outside the trailer frame.
Chris Cowles - 06 Nov 2005 22:38 GMT
> Chris,
>    You are right; nothing prevents one from using a longer
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> under trailer tank that sucking sound as the last of the water
> goes down the drain is very sweet.

Keep it short (There are little stubby hoses sold for this purpose, or build
one out of a scrap hose and hose repair ends) and add a I to a second hose
that extends above the level of the sink. That second hose acts as a vent
and prevents vacuum buildup. I put a little hook (actually, a plastic pipe
hanger tie-wrapped onto the hose) on mine and hook it onto a little
cross-piece on the roof support column. Works like a charm. I got the idea
here from somebody else.
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Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL
'00 Coleman Mesa/'05 Durango Hemi

Chris Cowles - 07 Nov 2005 00:42 GMT
> ...and add a I to a second hose ...

Should be "...and add a Y to a second hose ..."
asadi - 05 Nov 2005 03:41 GMT
To pipe out your gray water is crude trailer trash behavior...you may be
poor and dirty because your mother raise you that way but your children are
up to you.

john

> When I had my popup, for those times it was necessary to capture and
> transport
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>           :)
> JR
 
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