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big mike - 14 Jan 2006 14:43 GMT
I read somewhere that now they make cheaper pop ups (under 3 grand )
because they  dont have stoves etc on these models (Viking?). This is of
intrest to me. Can anyone give info about these cheaper campers?

thank you
Mike
tobe - 14 Jan 2006 15:30 GMT
The Viking Epic 1796E camper has an optional stove.  See the website at:
http://www.vikingrv.com/2006/epic/1796e.htm.

I rather doubt that its cost is under $3000, but a trip to a dealer would
provide more information.

>I read somewhere that now they make cheaper pop ups (under 3 grand )
> because they  dont have stoves etc on these models (Viking?). This is of
> intrest to me. Can anyone give info about these cheaper campers?
Jim Redelfs - 14 Jan 2006 22:57 GMT
> I read somewhere that now they make cheaper pop ups (under 3 grand )
> because they  dont have stoves etc on these models (Viking?). This is of
> intrest to me. Can anyone give info about these cheaper campers?

When my sister said she had bought a BRAND NEW camper with NO galley, I was
skeptical.  She was right.

She bought a 2004 Viking XXX (170? 3-not-4 digit model number) popup.  It has
an 8-ft box with a 48-inch-deep bunk on either end.  The workmanship is as
minimal as one would expect on this inexpensive ($3k USA 4/2004) vehicle.

This tent trailer has no sink.  It's odd to behold, though:  Without a sink
the trailer APPEARS to have an abundance of countertop.

There is NO water system and NO 120vac electric system.  With no converter or
battery, it has virtually no 12VDC system, either.  There is a single,
overhead 12VDC light fixture but its wire ends in an empty compartment.

The only WORKING 12VDC system is for running, brake and clearance lights, no
doubt DOT-required.

At least she is now sleeping OFF the ground.  For electricity, she runs an
extension cord under a corner of the tent.  With a plug strip and a utility
clamp light, she is happy.

She bought this bad boy for three grand.  She got a one-year warranty and,
IMHO, her money's worth.
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JR

2000 Skamper Ultra 249 TT
2002 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD
Vortec 8100 - Allison 1000

Tom  J - 15 Jan 2006 01:48 GMT
http://www.fleetwoodrv.com/brandtomodel/floorplan.aspx?brand=element&m=Neon
Fleetwood also has a model with no fixtures!
Tom J

>> I read somewhere that now they make cheaper pop ups (under 3
>> grand )
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> warranty and,
> IMHO, her money's worth.
Tom Shaw - 16 Jan 2006 18:00 GMT
I dont see anything wrong with this.  I never did think camping was supposed
to be luxurious.
TS
> http://www.fleetwoodrv.com/brandtomodel/floorplan.aspx?brand=element&m=Neon
> Fleetwood also has a model with no fixtures!
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>> and,
>> IMHO, her money's worth.
Jim Redelfs - 17 Jan 2006 00:43 GMT
> I dont see anything wrong with this.

Wrong?  Are you kidding?  It's GREAT!   :)

A basic, no-nonsense folding trailer that my brother can put INSIDE his
garage!  I immediately sent him the URL for the website and attached the
brochure.pdf I'd downloaded.

> I never did think camping was supposed to be luxurious.

When we were in a tent, sleeping in bags on air mattresses, we walked to the
"comfort station" or pit toilet to take care of business.

When we graduated to the popup, I bought a Porta Potti after our first night.  
Mrs. MacWidow (Leslie) groused about it ONCE that day and, after using it that
night, never had another complaint.  I think her biggest pleasure was that I
took care of it.  (I used it, too.)

We are now in a (very) entry-level travel trailer and enjoy the added features
of a "hard-walled" camper.

To some, I have yet to cross-over to "luxury" while, to others, I have.

To me, luxury now requires buttery-soft leather couch and recliner and Corian
countertops.

Me?  Heck, I'd be happy with dual-pane windows and insulated holding tanks.  I
already have the same furnace, refrigerator, microwave and air conditioner as
"the big boys, I want some QUALITY and longevity built into my RV - nice
drawers on glides that work, cabinets that don't fall apart, etc.  You can
have the leather and Corian.
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           :)
JR

2000 Skamper Ultra 249 TT
2002 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD
Vortec 8100 - Allison 1000

Bithead - 18 Jan 2006 02:52 GMT
Hi, Jim;
The popup that we just sold a few months back, can have much of the
galley. A two burner stove and a storage area was about it.  We found
that really didn't work so well for us.  The reason's simple; with
myself my wife and the two boys, each time we sat down to dinner at a
restaurant someplace while on the road for example, it would end up
costing us on the order of $50.00.  On rainy nights particularly we
would end up going out to a restaurant, because it was just so darn
crowded in the trailer.  And of course preparing a meal while on the
road in a rest area someplace was out of the question given the popup.

We got the Kiwi 21c. has a three Brunner stove in it, a decent fridge,
gobs of storage space, and as you can imagine a bit more room.  Now, the
meals don't cost any more than they would at home, unless of course
we're really feel like eating out someplace.  The savings can total
upwards of $150.00 a day for us.  Yes, it costs a little more in gas to
tow the bigger trailer... but I can burn a whole mess of fuel for $150.00.

Just my 2¢.

/Bit

>>I dont see anything wrong with this.
>
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> garage!  I immediately sent him the URL for the website and attached the
> brochure.pdf I'd downloaded.
Claire (Mason) Blais - 24 Jan 2006 02:00 GMT
What is the URL - I'd like to send it to my daughter and her husband - they
are just starting out and could afford something new at this price  and they
already have a portable camp stove and the like so they could either cook
outside weather permiting or rig up something to cook inside.

Claire

> Hi, Jim;
> The popup that we just sold a few months back, can have much of the
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> > garage!  I immediately sent him the URL for the website and attached the
> > brochure.pdf I'd downloaded.
Tomes - 24 Jan 2006 02:35 GMT
Google for Kiwi 21c.  There are lots of links to pages that they can read.
Tomes

> What is the URL - I'd like to send it to my daughter and her husband -
> they
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>> > the
>> > brochure.pdf I'd downloaded.
Claire (Mason) Blais - 25 Jan 2006 03:58 GMT
Thanks :-)

> Google for Kiwi 21c.  There are lots of links to pages that they can read.
> Tomes
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> >> > the
> >> > brochure.pdf I'd downloaded.

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