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A sign it's time to repack the bearings???????

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Tommy's Computer - 21 Mar 2006 22:04 GMT
Our camper is 8 years old and we have probably put 6k-7k miles on it. I
have never had the bearings repacked and I was wondering if there was a
sign that it was time. If I remember right someone said here many moons
ago to feel of the cap and if it felt warm/hot it was time. During our
last trip I felt both after driving about 200 miles and they were both
cool. Is this a good sign to go by or should I go ahead and get it done?
1998 Jayco Cascade with 13" wheels.
Rich256 - 21 Mar 2006 22:12 GMT
> Our camper is 8 years old and we have probably put 6k-7k miles on it. I
> have never had the bearings repacked and I was wondering if there was a
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> cool. Is this a good sign to go by or should I go ahead and get it done?
> 1998 Jayco Cascade with 13" wheels.

Get it done or do it yourself.  Many recommend doing it every year.  You
don't need your trips ruined by with breakdown.

I check my wheel temperatures every time I get a chance.

http://www.rverscorner.com/articles/bearings.html
Searcher - 21 Mar 2006 23:02 GMT
It should be done at the start of every season, I purchase bearing Buddy,
which allows me to lube the bearing via a zerk fitting

Searcher
Rich256 - 21 Mar 2006 23:28 GMT
> It should be done at the start of every season, I purchase bearing Buddy,
> which allows me to lube the bearing via a zerk fitting
>
> Searcher

Bearing buddies are not a replacement for packing bearings.  They are
made for boat trailers to keep the water out.
Rich256 - 21 Mar 2006 23:33 GMT
>> It should be done at the start of every season, I purchase bearing
>> Buddy, which allows me to lube the bearing via a zerk fitting
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> Bearing buddies are not a replacement for packing bearings.  They are
> made for boat trailers to keep the water out.

Forgot to add this has been discussed again and again on these groups
and forums:

http://www.woodalls.com/forums/Index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/15989026.cfm

http://www.tldirectory.com/cforum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/15156967/gotom
sg/15162756.cfm


http://popupcamping.tripod.com/popfaq.html
Searcher - 22 Mar 2006 00:15 GMT
I have had bearing buddies on my trailer for what 10 years now, Replaced two
sets of tires and when I did take out the bearings to replace them, I found
that they were in as good a condition as the new ones, no need for
replacement  but I did repack them nonetheless. That was about 2001. No
complaints here (I do NOT have brakes on the trailer though).  Just because
one group says not to and the other say go ahead, you can only rely on one
thing, that is your own better judgement based on your own knowlegde. I
tried it, it worked, why mess with a good thing.

Searcher
Rich256 - 22 Mar 2006 03:53 GMT
> I have had bearing buddies on my trailer for what 10 years now, Replaced two
> sets of tires and when I did take out the bearings to replace them, I found
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>
> Searcher

Not just multiple groups say not to, also anyone who know anything about
bearing say that.  They do not provide lubrication to the inside
bearings.  Just because you "got away" with using them is not a valid
argument that they are "a good thing".

They are fine for keeping water out but don't provide lubrication for
the inside bearing.

Since you don't have brakes you have a very light trailer, therefore I
don't expect you would have the bearing problems experienced by heavier
units.

 I know people that have gone for 10 years without doing anything and
haven't had any problems.  Sure wouldn't recommend or call it a "good
thing".

Many trailers are now coming with the EZ Lube axles.  They perform very
well:

http://www.dexteraxle.com/e_z_lube_system
tobe - 22 Mar 2006 04:09 GMT
> Many trailers are now coming with the EZ Lube axles.  They perform very
> well:

My 1999 Viking came with the Dexter EZ lube axle (no brakes).  The manual
diagram clearly shows that using the grease zerk pushes grease down the
middle of the axle spindle, then around and through the inner bearing, then
through the outer bearing into the hub.  Both the inner and outer bearings
are lubricated this way.

What the manual doesn't say is how often one should inspect these bearings,
and whether changing them involves the same procedure.

I always put the camper up on blocks for the winter (September to May) and
move the wheels about once a month to a new position.  The manual actually
recommends not only to put the camper up on blocks, but to also remove the
wheels!
Jeff  H - 22 Mar 2006 05:03 GMT
> What the manual doesn't say is how often one should inspect these
> bearings, and whether changing them involves the same procedure.

This link may help:

http://www.dexteraxle.com/faq_s#29

Jeff
asadi - 23 Mar 2006 12:52 GMT
nice link

>> What the manual doesn't say is how often one should inspect these
>> bearings, and whether changing them involves the same procedure.
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>
> Jeff
Rich256 - 22 Mar 2006 16:07 GMT
>> Many trailers are now coming with the EZ Lube axles.  They perform very
>> well:
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> recommends not only to put the camper up on blocks, but to also remove the
> wheels!

Dexter still says to check them ever 12 months which is just as time
consuming as packing.

 However, with what you are doing I sure would be willing to stretch
that a lot.  I think that putting it up on blocks and moving the wheels
prevents a lot of troubles.  I used to to that when I had lighter weight
trailers.
Him - 16 Apr 2006 14:28 GMT
Great link .. exactly what I was looking for to do this service myself the
first time.

Thanks

> > Our camper is 8 years old and we have probably put 6k-7k miles on it. I
> > have never had the bearings repacked and I was wondering if there was a
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>
> http://www.rverscorner.com/articles/bearings.html
mac davis - 22 Mar 2006 16:36 GMT
>Our camper is 8 years old and we have probably put 6k-7k miles on it. I
>have never had the bearings repacked and I was wondering if there was a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>cool. Is this a good sign to go by or should I go ahead and get it done?
>1998 Jayco Cascade with 13" wheels.

wow.. you've been VERY lucky...

IMHO, if the hubs start getting warm, it's telling you that you're way past time
to repack and close to replacement...

Get your hands dirty once a year and consider it a mini insurance policy against
worry...
I have a dual axle TT and after the 1st 2 times (both with a friend that had
done it for years) I've gotten it down to about a 1 hour job... and most of that
time is jacking, running lug bolts on & off, etc...
Should be a short and easy job on a pop-up
Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm
Frank Tabor - 22 Mar 2006 18:51 GMT
> running lug bolts on & off,

Why?  Just knock the dust cover off, remove the cotter pin and
castellated nut, then remove the whole wheel and hub as one.  Lots
easier and faster.
Signature

Frank Tabor

asadi - 23 Mar 2006 12:52 GMT
DOH!

>> running lug bolts on & off,
>
> Why?  Just knock the dust cover off, remove the cotter pin and
> castellated nut, then remove the whole wheel and hub as one.  Lots
> easier and faster.
mac davis - 23 Mar 2006 16:44 GMT
>> running lug bolts on & off,
>
>Why?  Just knock the dust cover off, remove the cotter pin and
>castellated nut, then remove the whole wheel and hub as one.  Lots
>easier and faster.

Sorry, Frank.. you're right..

Senior moment... I check the brakes at the same time and should have mentioned
that...
Thor replaced all 4 sets of shoes when I found heat cracks in them at 2,000
miles..
Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm
jaminn - 09 Apr 2006 00:51 GMT
>> running lug bolts on & off,
>
>Why?  Just knock the dust cover off, remove the cotter pin and
>castellated nut, then remove the whole wheel and hub as one.  Lots
>easier and faster.

So, what's the easiest way to knock the dust cover off?  I have a 1990
Starcraft Starmaster that I am getting ready for the season.
Jaminn aka Don Williams
Frank Tabor - 09 Apr 2006 14:15 GMT
>>> running lug bolts on & off,
>>
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>Starcraft Starmaster that I am getting ready for the season.
>Jaminn aka Don Williams

A rubber hammer to move it slightly, then a large pair of channel locks
to remove it.  It's pressed on.  To replace it, line it up, and gently
tap it into place with the same rubber hammer.

After washing the bearings in kerosene, air dry them, then place in a
sandwich baggie with about a 1/2 cup of grease and then squeeze the
grease through the bearing.

To replace the bearings, while turning the wheel, tighten the nut till
the wheel stops and then back off 1/4 turn.  Line up the hole and
replace the cotter pin.  Or, following the manufacturers directions,
torque the nut to the proper setting, then back off 1/4 turn.
Signature

Frank Tabor

mac davis - 09 Apr 2006 16:29 GMT
>>> running lug bolts on & off,
>>
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>Starcraft Starmaster that I am getting ready for the season.
>Jaminn aka Don Williams

I use a rubber mallet from the 99 cent store...
Hit it on the side of the dust cover (lightly), alternating from side to side
until loose enough to take off by hand..

PLEASE don't use the little rim to try prying them off with a screwdriver..

Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm
jaminn - 10 Apr 2006 01:00 GMT
>PLEASE don't use the little rim to try prying them off with a screwdriver..
>
>Mac

Thanks guys for the response.  Of course, prying it off with a
screwdriver is the first thing that comes to mind.  I'll give the
rubber mallet a try.
Jaminn aka Don Williams
Edward Lemerise - 08 Apr 2006 12:06 GMT
> Our camper is 8 years old and we have probably put 6k-7k miles on it. I
> have never had the bearings repacked and I was wondering if there was a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> cool. Is this a good sign to go by or should I go ahead and get it done?
> 1998 Jayco Cascade with 13" wheels.
I would repack now. I always have put bearing buddies on all my
trailers,most only use them on boat trailers.I find it insurance of a safe
trip worth the cost
 
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