Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
HomeAnnouncements
Discussion Groups
By Brand
BMWChevroletDodgeFordGMHondaLexusMercedes-BenzNissanPeugeotToyotaVolkswagenOther Brands
By Topic
4x4 CarsRVsDrivingMaintenance & RepairCar AudioCollectible Cars
Country Specific
Australian ForumsUK Forums
ArticlesAuto InsuranceBuyingCars & TechnologyMaintenanceMiscellaneousSafety
DMV Resources
Related Topics
MotorcyclesBoatsMore Topics ...

Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / April 2006

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Solar battery charger

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Junkyard Engineer - 05 Apr 2006 13:04 GMT
Is there a place (Canada) to buy a solar charger and mostly, what kind to
buy ? I bought a 2002 starcraft 2108 with a marine battery. Is it worth it ?
What kind of power do I need to charge it in one day for evening use ? How
long the cells last ?

tia
Rich256 - 05 Apr 2006 14:37 GMT
> Is there a place (Canada) to buy a solar charger and mostly, what kind to
> buy ? I bought a 2002 starcraft 2108 with a marine battery. Is it worth it ?
> What kind of power do I need to charge it in one day for evening use ? How
> long the cells last ?
>
> tia

A solar charger will never charge a battery in a day (unless it is
huge).  If you are in an area that gets a lot of sun you might be able
to extend usage.

Next time go for a Deep Discharge battery.  It will have almost double
the capacity of the Marine.

Read about battery charging and maintenance:

http://www.batteryfaq.org

http://www.amplepower.com/
Tony Wesley - 06 Apr 2006 04:40 GMT
> Is there a place (Canada) to buy a solar charger and mostly, what kind to
> buy ?

Canadian Tire sells solar panels.  Sometimes, at quite a discount.  At
present, they have Eliminator Solar Panels, 1.8 Watt (part number
11-1880-2) for 9.99 $CDN.  Nice price for a panel useful for keeping an
*unused* battery topped off.

> I bought a 2002 starcraft 2108 with a marine battery. Is it worth it ?
> What kind of power do I need to charge it in one day for evening use ? How
> long the cells last ?

As another poster mentioned, you have to buy a LOT of solar panels to
recharge a battery.  You're probably better off buying more battery
capacity.  And/Or a generator.
RichA - 06 Apr 2006 19:21 GMT
>Is there a place (Canada) to buy a solar charger and mostly, what kind to
>buy ? I bought a 2002 starcraft 2108 with a marine battery. Is it worth it ?
>What kind of power do I need to charge it in one day for evening use ? How
>long the cells last ?
>
>tia

Hi,
I'm sure there are places in Canada to buy solar panels.  But it's not
worth it.  Especially so if you do most of your camping in campgrounds.

A small 15 watt solar panel for example can put out about 1 amp of
power in ideal perfect conditions.  Ideal perfect conditions are the
panel faces the sun at the correct angle and follows it as it moves
through the sky with no shadows, trees etc. in it's way.   In real world
the panel will be lying flat and will not be following the sun as it
moves.  Also the further north you are the less sun and the harsher the
angle so the less efficient the panels are.  In the real world you would
be lucky to .2 or .3 amps out of them.  That means in one eight hour day
of full sun you would replenish 1.6 to 2.4 amps maybe.  A 12V light
uses, depending on its size of course, that much and more in an hour.
Not to mention the days when it's cloudy or raining and you get next to
no charge at all.

You would need something like a 50 watt at least or 100 watt solar
panel.  For the cost of them you could buy a second battery and have
enough money left over to replace both batteries several times.

Take care and Happy Campin...
Signature

RichA
"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"

Junkyard Engineer - 07 Apr 2006 02:28 GMT
Thanks for the explanation.

Too bad the technology is not there yet.

>>Is there a place (Canada) to buy a solar charger and mostly, what kind to
>>buy ? I bought a 2002 starcraft 2108 with a marine battery. Is it worth it
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Take care and Happy Campin...
Tony Wesley - 07 Apr 2006 02:59 GMT
> Hi,
>  I'm sure there are places in Canada to buy solar panels.  But it's not
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> angle so the less efficient the panels are.
> [snip]

I agree with Rich on pretty much everything in his post except this one
part.   Between Spring and Fall Equinox (which is most folk's camping
season in the northern hemisphere), the further north you are, the more
sun you get!  From my own experience, I've been in northern Scotland
(about 57 degrees north) in late June and the days are *long*.

Other than that nit picking, I agree with Rich's post.
meldx - 07 Apr 2006 12:52 GMT
Canadian Tire or Wal-Mart

Mel

Junkyard Engineer a écrit:
> Is there a place (Canada) to buy a solar charger and mostly, what kind to
> buy ? I bought a 2002 starcraft 2108 with a marine battery. Is it worth it ?
> What kind of power do I need to charge it in one day for evening use ? How
> long the cells last ?
>
> tia
Randall - 10 Apr 2006 15:46 GMT
Please, help me understand this better... Camping World has a 15 watt panel
solar chargers for $120.  I could install 2 on the roof for a total of 30
watts and $240.  Seems cheaper and quieter than a generator? I need help
with the numbers (Watts Amps).

Would this be enough to keep the battery charged for a couple of lights and
furnace fan for 5 days?

> Is there a place (Canada) to buy a solar charger and mostly, what kind to
> buy ? I bought a 2002 starcraft 2108 with a marine battery. Is it worth it
> ? What kind of power do I need to charge it in one day for evening use ?
> How long the cells last ?
>
> tia
Rich256 - 10 Apr 2006 17:08 GMT
> Please, help me understand this better... Camping World has a 15 watt panel
> solar chargers for $120.  I could install 2 on the roof for a total of 30
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Would this be enough to keep the battery charged for a couple of lights and
> furnace fan for 5 days?

Maybe if you are in the middle of the Sahara Desert.  That is 15 watts
each under ideal conditions.  If you are fortunate you probably get that
for a few minutes each day.

Watts = Current times Voltage.   15 watts is a little over 1 ampere at
12 volts.

Best off to buy extra batteries.  For $200 you can get four 6 volt Golf
Cart Batteries from SAMS.  That will give you 440 Ampere hours at 12
volts (220 not discharging below 50%).  But a lot of weight.

Alternative is to buy a generator.  Preferably a Honda but the Coleman
is really not too bad and a lot cheaper.  Coleman available for about
$300 to $500.
RichA - 10 Apr 2006 20:45 GMT
>Please, help me understand this better... Camping World has a 15 watt panel
>solar chargers for $120.  I could install 2 on the roof for a total of 30
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Would this be enough to keep the battery charged for a couple of lights and
>furnace fan for 5 days?

Hi,
Two 15 watt panels will give you approximately 2 amps per hour under
ideal conditions.  Ideal conditions are the panels are facing the sun at
the correct angle and follow the sun as it moves across the sky from
when the sun comes up until it goes down.  You have no shade on the
panels and it is a cloudless sky.

Flat mounted on the roof you might get  .1 - 1 amps per hour if it
sunny with no clouds no shade depending upon the time of day and your
location.  Anything less and you will be getting less.  Figure about 2+
amps per eight hour day maybe. Where you are effects the efficiency too.
The southwest and south are the best areas for solar.  You will get
better results there.  Summer better then winter.

Your furnace will draw more amps out of your battery in one hour then
those two solar panels will put back in one or two days mounted on your
roof.

I have an 120 Watt solar panel on my RV.  That's ideally about 8 amps.
I get from .1 to 4 amps or so depending upon the time of day and time of
year while parked in front of my house.  I use it to keep my 440 amp
battery bank charged in the winter and to replenish some usage.  In the
summer I can sometimes get 20 - 30 amps or so put back in during the day
in ideal conditions and depending where I am.  That's with 4 times as
much wattage as you are talking about.

Those two 15 watt panels are fine for maintaining a few batteries with
little or no draw on them.  If you have little usage then they will put
back a little but a generator will put back more in a half hour then the
solar panels in days.

To find out how many amps you use you need to know the wattage of the
items being used and the length of time using them.  Multiply the
wattage by the number of hours then for 12V items divide by 12.  That
will give you the amps used for that item for that length of time.  Add
a little for line losses.

If you want to use solar get at least a 50 watt panel (3.3 Amp) or two
then you need a charge controller so you don't cook the batteries.  Even
then you have to conserve your battery usage if you are only depending
upon solar.  Rainy cloudy days put little or nothing back but you still
have usage on those days.  Usually more then normal.  

Take care and Happy Campin...

Signature

RichA
"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"

Eksak - 13 Apr 2006 21:34 GMT
> Please, help me understand this better... Camping World has a 15 watt
> panel solar chargers for $120.  I could install 2 on the roof for a
> total of 30 watts and $240.  Seems cheaper and quieter than a
> generator? I need help with the numbers (Watts Amps).

> I bought a 5 watt solar panel from HarborFreight.com for 39 bucks, its
not enough to run my electrical gear, but I use it to keep my battery
charged when Im dry camping.  We have never had a problem with a dead
battery.  BUT we also charge our battery when towing, and if available we
plug in.  Sorry I couldnt have been more help.
RichA - 13 Apr 2006 23:40 GMT
>> Please, help me understand this better... Camping World has a 15 watt
>> panel solar chargers for $120.  I could install 2 on the roof for a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>battery.  BUT we also charge our battery when towing, and if available we
>plug in.  Sorry I couldnt have been more help.
Hi,
A 5 watt solar panel at maximum output puts out less then .4 amps per
hour.  Amps = watts/volts most are rated 15 or 17 volts for a 12 volt
panel.  Solar panels get their maximum output when facing the sun at the
correct angle.  Laying flat on a roof those things are only good for
taking up space and your money in an RV.  You probably wouldn't have had
a problem with a dead battery without the 5 watt panel either.

Take care and Happy Campin...

Signature

RichA
"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"

Randall - 14 Apr 2006 04:30 GMT
Everybody - much thanks for your answers and assistance!

Randall

>>> Please, help me understand this better... Camping World has a 15 watt
>>> panel solar chargers for $120.  I could install 2 on the roof for a
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Take care and Happy Campin...
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.