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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / May 2006

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Should I get a popup or just rent cabins?

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needin4mation@gmail.com - 08 May 2006 16:05 GMT
I was thinking of getting a popup.  By the time I get my Honda Odyssey
equipped, so as not void the warranty, with a hitch plus transmission
and power steering cooler I will spend about $5500 (this price includes
the popup)..

A lot of places have cabins to stay in now in state parks.  $5500 is a
lot of cabin rentals, maybe more than I will ever use.  On the other
hand, I saw some cabins that were more than $150 a night, so I don' t
know....

Why should I get a popup?  I want one, but I am afraid it is not worth
the money.  What advantage do I have with popup versus just staying in
cabins?  I used to camp, but despise putting up the tent.  Popups seem
a nice way to go.

Thank you for helping me.
teranews - 08 May 2006 16:36 GMT
Many places have tent camping areas Bathrooms and showers are available
there.
I sold my popup and now use the tent areas in state parks
Easier to tow :-)

>I was thinking of getting a popup.  By the time I get my Honda Odyssey
> equipped, so as not void the warranty, with a hitch plus transmission
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> Thank you for helping me.
Kegger - 08 May 2006 16:54 GMT
Ok go camping in a cabin. Take your bedding, Dishes, food, entertainment
materials, chairs, etc etc etc. You take them into the cabin....
Take your camper and in most cases you have everything you need already
packed and ready to go.. You also have your own dishes, bedding, and the
place is as clean as you want it because only you are responsible for
cleaning it. Personally I can get a hotel room for the price of a
campsite I just enjoy being out with nature and visiting with other
campers. Plus I have my own Stuff...

> I was thinking of getting a popup.  By the time I get my Honda Odyssey
> equipped, so as not void the warranty, with a hitch plus transmission
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> Thank you for helping me.
Shadow - 08 May 2006 20:31 GMT
In addition to the  comments by Kegger you may  find that the cabin
availability is very limited.  If you get one as well set up as most
pop-ups you will pay a real premium price for the rental.  Depends on
how often you use the popup.  I might suggest rneting a cabin then a
pop-up for a fair comparison.  If the Honda is not yet set up rent a
tow vehicle too.  You will spend some $$ getting "stuff" for the
pop-up if you go that route.  Makes it easy to just hitch up and go.

Size and equipment needs depend o the number of campers and degree of
"camping" you want to do.  You can sure get a pop-up in places you
will not find cabins.

>Ok go camping in a cabin. Take your bedding, Dishes, food, entertainment
>materials, chairs, etc etc etc. You take them into the cabin....
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>> Thank you for helping me.
needin4mation@gmail.com - 08 May 2006 22:03 GMT
That last part is very true.  As I have started going out more, I see
less cabins.  I'm not really sure what you mean by the $$ though.
Could you explain?  Thank you.

> In addition to the  comments by Kegger you may  find that the cabin
> availability is very limited.  If you get one as well set up as most
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> >> Thank you for helping me.
Kegger - 08 May 2006 22:34 GMT
Renting a tow vehicle actually makes some sense. Uhaul has a Pickup
setup for towing cost $20 per day... $60 plus milage for the weekend....
not a bad deal and you'd have to rent it a long time in order to spend
as much as it will cost you to setup the Honda... also don't let the
dealer bully you. Most Manufacturers allow after market if put on by a
ASCE (think that's right) certified mechanic.

> That last part is very true.  As I have started going out more, I see
> less cabins.  I'm not really sure what you mean by the $$ though.
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>>>>Thank you for helping me.
needin4mation@gmail.com - 08 May 2006 21:59 GMT
I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, but almost every state
park cabin I have been in has been fully furnished including dishes,
glasses, and silverware.  Many even have dishwashers (not human ones :)
).

> Ok go camping in a cabin. Take your bedding, Dishes, food, entertainment
> materials, chairs, etc etc etc. You take them into the cabin....
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> > Thank you for helping me.
RichA - 08 May 2006 23:13 GMT
>I was thinking of getting a popup.  By the time I get my Honda Odyssey
>equipped, so as not void the warranty, with a hitch plus transmission
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>
>Thank you for helping me.
Hi,
If you can't answer the question of why you should get a popup then you
probably shouldn't.  No one but you can answer that question.  Everyone
has different reasons for RV'ing in a popup, trailer or motor home.
Doing it to save money isn't one of the better reasons, IMO, though you
could if you are careful.  If you want to save money don't count the
cost of the RV in the camping expenses :)  That helps a lot :)

You have almost no advantage of staying in a popup vs. staying in a
cabin unless you count availability and money.  The only real advantage
is the popup will always be available while cabins may not.  In many
places the popup site will be cheaper then the cabins.  Check out Fort
Wilderness Campground in Disney World for a real good extreme example :)
But it's probably cheaper to stay in a hotel money wise then it is to
camp in most tourist destinations.  The economy class hotels at Disney
are about the same price per night as a full hookup campsite at Disney
is for me.

Once you get out of the tourist destinations somewhat things change as
there are lots of campgrounds that are pretty darn cheap and many that
don't have cabins anyway.

Take care and Happy Campin...

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RichA
"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"

Shadow - 09 May 2006 01:18 GMT
Thke $$ refers to the ammount of money you want to spend to set up the
pop-up so that it is "road ready" without moving your home kitchen and
linens into it.  Pots,pans,dishes, flatware, cooking knives, spatulas,
sheets, towels, dish soap, bath soap etc.

If you are going to all the tourist spots then you can rent a lot of
rooms and eat pretty well for a while with the money you would spend
on the Honda.  If you want to travel and see the country outside the
Interstate system a pop-up provides nice lodgings.  Most will pull
easily over steep grades with little difficulty.  Might want to invest
in trailer brakes if you get a larger unit.

Setting up a pop-up takes little time once you've done it a couple
times.  Set up and take down in rain has similar disadvantages to a
tent.

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>>I was thinking of getting a popup.  By the time I get my Honda Odyssey
>>equipped, so as not void the warranty, with a hitch plus transmission
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>Take care and Happy Campin...
meldx - 09 May 2006 12:58 GMT
I you need others to convince you, then you better stick with your
cabin.  If your trying to make this a financial decision, it's because
you are not really into camping!  sorry to break the news!

Mel

needin4mation@gmail.com a écrit:
> I was thinking of getting a popup.  By the time I get my Honda Odyssey
> equipped, so as not void the warranty, with a hitch plus transmission
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> Thank you for helping me.
mac davis - 09 May 2006 15:07 GMT
>I you need others to convince you, then you better stick with your
>cabin.  If your trying to make this a financial decision, it's because
>you are not really into camping!  sorry to break the news!
>
>Mel

Well said, Sir Mel!

Mac

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mac davis - 09 May 2006 15:06 GMT
>I was thinking of getting a popup.  By the time I get my Honda Odyssey
>equipped, so as not void the warranty, with a hitch plus transmission
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>
>Thank you for helping me.

IMHO, RVing, like wood working, boating and other hobbies, can't be justified
economically...

We went through most of the normal progression of camping and now have a 26'
travel trailer... It costs about $14,000 plus another $13,000 for a truck to
pull it...
That's quite a few nights at fine hotels, much less cabins... *g*

Is it "worth the money"? To us, it is in a heart beat... To others, it might not
make any sense at all..

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you have to decide if it's worth the
money, you probably aren't ready for camping yet...
Check out local places that rent popups for a weekend and try one out..

Disclaimer: I feel like I made a "profit" when I sell a bowl that I made on my
$1,000 lathe with $500 worth of tools for $25, so obviously economics wasn't my
major..
Mac

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Kegger - 09 May 2006 16:34 GMT
The one thing I alwasy tell a new Pop-Up camper when they mention the
cost compared to a hotel.... is have you ever met your neighbor in a
hotel and invited them in for a beer? or a cookout? We do it all the
time when camping. How many people at a hotel would stop along the road
and help when your camper or tow vehicle has a problem. Two years ago I
had a flat on the camper and I had 5 RV's from Pop-ups to Class A's that
stopped to help they were lined up along the highway like we were having
a convention.... after you leave a hotel I can guarantee none of your
neighbors would even recognize you on the road... with a RV everyone
does..... it's kind of nice group to belong to..

>>I was thinking of getting a popup.  By the time I get my Honda Odyssey
>>equipped, so as not void the warranty, with a hitch plus transmission
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mac davis - 10 May 2006 15:03 GMT
>The one thing I alwasy tell a new Pop-Up camper when they mention the
>cost compared to a hotel.... is have you ever met your neighbor in a
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>neighbors would even recognize you on the road... with a RV everyone
>does..... it's kind of nice group to belong to..

Very true... I've had that experience with camping, fishing, motorcycles, etc..
like a special interest group..

We use to compare "butt breaks" on the bike or rv with in the car or truck..

In the car, you keep to yourself and sort of avoid eye contact with others..

In the rv or on the bike, it just seems natural to talk to others with like
interests and sort of group together..

I used to tell folks that have never camped or fished before that people seem to
change when they're outdoors... the guy that would run you off the road with his
SUV in town would share his last can of coffee or help you rig your tent when
you're out in the boonies..
Mac

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eddie07 - 14 May 2006 15:47 GMT
Your ahead of the game ,mac. I know a guy that get's $10,000 for his
championship carved wooden ducks and it only takes him 12,000 hours to
carve one :)

eddie07  (another happy camper and woodworker)
eddie07 - 14 May 2006 15:40 GMT
   My 03 Honda Odyssey:    After market tranny cooler ( much better
than Honda)  ,
Hitch   (make sure you get a GOOD UHaul mechanic if that's your choice)
You don't need a power steering cooler despite the caution by Honda.
Don't go overweight on your pop-up, my Aliner expedition is about 1600#
 tows like a dream  20mpg+. also had a single cam Reece mini sway
installed but most Aliners don't use anything.  Airlift 1000 airbags
(Honda rear suspensions a bit      soft) Prodigy brake controller . All
above about a grand
   Ditto Kegger's  and shadow's post especially the feeling of
independence, possibility to boondock and greater chance of getting a
site. Cabins probably bookup pretty quick.
    If $$$ where the only consideration, if you want minimum hassle
your probably  better off at a cheepo motel. With a popup you get to
run with the wolves or run away from a wild bear:) On second thought
mabye i could stay home with a few brews and watch the game . Saves a
lot of hassle and $$$ :)
Bottom line   ya gotta love it.

Eddie07
 
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