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Opinion of older Coleman pop ups?

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Busman - 18 May 2006 04:08 GMT
Looking at a small Coleman that I'm guessing is from the mid to late 80s. It's similar to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=50064&ite
m=4641261367

Appears to be in good shape. Anything in particular that I should watch for? Looking to make the jump from tent camping with the family. Plannning on towing with V6 Amigo and not going cross country (4-6 hours out).
Andy
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Kegger - 18 May 2006 04:43 GMT
Look at:
Canvas Pull a bit on seams especially where they meet the corners of the
bunks make sure the stiching is in good shape. Make sure the canvas is
in great shape. Dry rot in the canvas it won't last very long at all.
Look for areas around the corners inside on the ceiling and at any point
where water may leak. Check the outside corners see if they have been
sealed recently.
Plug it in check the electrical hook it up to a truck car and check the
inverter make sure it will work off of 12 volt if needed.
One thing most people forget about is the lights... check the light
fixtures take the lenses off you will be able to tell if the roof leaks
very quickly. Check the lift cables for rust and wear.
Use good common sense and you should be ok... I've rebuilt a number of
the old Colemans and have had a ball doing it. I learn something new
each time. Any questions send me a e-mail.

> Looking at a small Coleman that I'm guessing is from the mid to late
> 80s. It's similar to this one:
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Busman - 18 May 2006 04:51 GMT
Thanks! Still waiting to see how much he wants for it but I know it's been
parked for right at 3 years. I'm not expecting something perfect to start
with do we'll see what happens.
Andy

> Look at:
> Canvas Pull a bit on seams especially where they meet the corners of the
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>> Andy
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asadi - 18 May 2006 05:07 GMT
>> Look at:
>> Canvas Pull a bit on seams especially where they meet the corners of the
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>> the old Colemans and have had a ball doing it. I learn something new each
>> time. Any questions send me a e-mail.

It might not even be canvas. Anyhow, with proper treatment and opening
things up in the winter on a low humidity day and all, I had a pop-up last
20+ years and my neighbor is still using it!

Even if poorly maintained -  judicious care, read the manual, search for
websites - you can correct/circumvent a lot of problems.

john
Kegger - 18 May 2006 05:12 GMT
I've actually got a 1983 Williamsburg that we just finished rebuilding.
I don't think they had the Sunbrella material back then. It sure looked
like canvas.

>>>Look at:
>>>Canvas Pull a bit on seams especially where they meet the corners of the
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> john
Shopdog - 18 May 2006 05:44 GMT
I have a 1980 Coleman Colonial, I  paid 250 for it and it needed some
repairs. I ended up replacing the flip up sink base and patching some tears
in the canvas. But other than that it had held up very well for the 4 years
I have had it. You definately want to check the cables and the electrical
system. If it has a fridge then that may need some attention. but as long as
the canvas is intact and the electric is working all the rest are easy
fixes. Canvas cost anywhere from 650 to 900 depending on where you look. For
mine the canvas is 750, and you can replae it in sections although it is
cheaper if you buy the whole kit. It takes a good day to replace everything
with two people. Make sure there is a clear title and pull the wheels and
check the bearings BEFORE you tow it home! Nothing is worse than tearing out
siezed bearings on the side of the road.

Searcher
altar nospam - 18 May 2006 07:14 GMT
>>> Look at:
>>> Canvas Pull a bit on seams especially where they meet the corners of the
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>john

I have a 72 Starcraft pop-up. I'm sure it wasn't as good of a quality
as is a Coleman. My kids and families use it all the time. In all the
time I've had it, I've only done the following:

New pulleys 4 years ago
A paint type roof sealer every few years
Wheels and bearings last year: $125
New canvas 2 years ago: $725
Painted the inside ceiling
Painted the outside frame and tongue every 3 or 4 years, 1 spray can.
2 sets of tires over time.

It looks great, and functions great.
Bear creek shipped me the canvas that fits like a glove. It took me
less than and hour and a half to install. Including coffee break.

These older pop-ups are really quite simple, and potentially can last
forever, except for one thing. Leaks in the roof. Roof rot can be a
nightmare, and will kill them.
Every spring, I run a hose directly on the roof for a while, getting
as much water on it as possible. No leaks, no problem. If there would
be one, I would find out where, and seal it. Haven't found one yet,
though.

Tom
Chris Cowles - 20 May 2006 03:05 GMT
Looking at a small Coleman that I'm guessing is from the mid to late 80s.
It's similar to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=50064&ite
m=4641261367

Appears to be in good shape. Anything in particular that I should watch
for? Looking to make the jump from tent camping with the family. Plannning
on towing with V6 Amigo and not going cross country (4-6 hours out).

Try to poke your fingernail into the ceiling (without damaging the vinyl)
to find hidden soft spots. The construction of the roof can lead to hidden
water damage, and it's hard to repair. Be especially careful to inspect at
corners and along the joints. If it had A/C, taking the inner shroud off to
inspect the hole cut through the ceiling would be a good idea. It's a
common point of water intrusion.

Check all the electrical circuits. Turn everything on/off. Check the
running lights, stop/blinkers, etc. If it doesn't have a live battery,
borrow one to hook it up. That way you can test the 12v circuits off shore
power. Check it on shore power, as well. Turn on the furnace to make sure
that works. If the thermostat doesn't, that's probably an easy repair.
Fixing the furnace itself would be more expensive.

Look underneath at the lift mechanism pulleys to make sure they're intact.
If the owner had it set up before you get there, ask to take it down and
set it up again if you're serious about buying. You have to see that the
basic mechanism works.

On a trailer of this age, the pluming and other hardware is relatively
simple. If you're reasonably handy at fixing things, you can do most of it
yourself.
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Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL


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