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PopUp camping in Colorado - where to stay?
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Eric Babula - 07 Jul 2006 14:08 GMT My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping trip to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread about propane/battery life. We'll be camping in our pop-up camper.
This time, the questions center around campgrounds. Ok, I'm asking for the world, here, I know. But, I figure you good people would have plenty of real-life experiences that are invaluable.
For the first week, we'll be staying at Glacier Basin, in Rocky Mountain National Park. We have the reservations, and are all set, there. But, after that, we're kind of open as to where we can stay.
We were tentatively planning on making kind of a circle around CO - heading west, south, east and north again. Some of the places we probably want to hit are: Breckenridge, Mesa Verde, Durango, Great Sand Dunes Nat'l Park, and Colorado Springs.
Does anyone have any other ideas of 'can't miss' places to camp/hike/see/etc.???
Also, does anyone have any suggestions as to campgrounds that we definitely SHOULD stay at, or any to definitely NOT stay at? Remember, we'll be winging it the rest of the way, so we probably won't get into some of the really hard-to-get-into campgrounds, since we don't have reservations. We could always call to check for availability, though.
We would really like (if possible) camp sites with great views of the mountains, or near lakes, and definitely AWAY from roads with heavy traffic or railroad tracks. If you have specific camp site numbers that are great, that would be appreciated, too! Close proximity to trail heads with great hikes would be a big selling point, too! My girls are 10 and 12, so they don't generally like very long hikes at one time - maybe 6-10 miles max., typically. But, hikes with destination points are great - gorgeous overlooks, waterfalls, lakes, etc. We can sometimes convince them to go a bit farther, if they know there's a really cool waterfall coming up!
My wife wants to take the kids horseback riding at some point during this trip, too. I'm highly allergic, so I'll do a more strenuous hike while they do the ride. Any suggestions for great horseback rides? They're a bit nervous around heights, so no rides along cliff edges, please. And, any suggestion as to a hike I can take while they ride?
Heck, since I'm asking, are there any hiking trails IN RMNP that we just HAVE to do? Of course, we're doing our reading, but I just don't want to miss the best hiking trail in the park!
I'm open for any advice - where to camp (outside RMNP), which specific camp site (if you have the number), where to horseback ride, where to hike, what to not miss, what we could easily skip?
Hmm, I just thought about maybe canoeing or rafting (easy raft ride - not class IV rapids or anything). That might be fun, too! Any suggestions?
Oh, and fishing! It might be fun to take the kids fishing in the mountains! What are the rules and regulations about fishing in RMNP? Where can/can't you go? Or, would it be better to take the kids elsewhere in the state for their first fishing experience?
Too many fun things to do!! I can't wait!!!
Thanks in advance for your help!
 Signature Eric Babula Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
2003 Jayco Eagle 10UD 2004 Toyota Sienna
Rich256 - 07 Jul 2006 15:55 GMT > My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping trip > to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread about [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > Thanks in advance for your help! Horseback riding available all over the state. Grand Lake for example.
Nice waterfall a short hike from Grand Lake as well.
http://www.mountainlake.com/mlp/Falls3.htm
Check out the other scenery on that site:
http://www.mountainlake.com/mlp/Scenery.htm#location
Near Breckenridge a Forest Campground is available just outside Frisco. Peak One or Heaton Bay. No hookups. Flush Toilets at Peak One.
Usually lots of Elk and a moose or two near the west entrance to the park.
Since you will be on the east side of the park and intend to head west you will have to decide if you are going to pull your trailer over trail ridge road or go south to Denver and take I70. Many pull even large trailers over the top but you need a good tow vehicle. Berthoud and Eisenhower tunnel are over 10,000 feet.
Berthoud has had a lot of work for the past five years. Now has passing lanes on both sides.
Be aware this is mountain lion country. Attacks are extremely rare but often fatal.
Rich256 - 07 Jul 2006 20:29 GMT >> My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping trip >> to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread about [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > Be aware this is mountain lion country. Attacks are extremely rare but > often fatal. Forgot to mention that if you get to the Grand Lake area you might want to try to get into Stillwater CG on Granby as it has showers. Reservations are a must on weekends - most of them are Colorado people.
There are a few sites with electric and water hookups but they are reserved long in advance.
There is a commercial CG in Grand Lake that looks like it might be OK.
Tommy's Computer - 07 Jul 2006 20:59 GMT >>> My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping >>> trip to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] > > There is a commercial CG in Grand Lake that looks like it might be OK. We stayed here http://www.elkcreekcamp.com/ while we were in Grand Lake. I wish we had stayed two nights there instead of the place we camped at in Estes Park. It was nice.
Rich256 - 07 Jul 2006 23:24 GMT >>>> My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping >>>> trip to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] > I wish we had stayed two nights there instead of the place we camped at > in Estes Park. It was nice. Is that one that used to be KOA? Looks pretty nice. Some relatives stayed in their cabins a few years ago.
Also meant to say that the forest campgrounds around Granby and Shadow Mountain are National Recreation Area. So in addition to camping fee you must also have a park or ANRA pass:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/arnf/recreation/anra/index.shtml
I have never stayed in the Timber Creek campground on the west side of the park. However, we drove past there last week and noticed a couple elk wandering through the campground.
Tommy's Computer - 07 Jul 2006 16:55 GMT > My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping trip > to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread about [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > Thanks in advance for your help! When my wife ad I went out there 8 years ago we were still tent people. I'd recommend going jeeping over the Continental Divide around the Silverton/Telluride areas. That was the best $100 I ever spent renting the jeep). The feeling of going up a old mining road and getting out when we reached the pass was incredible. Standing in snow in late June and not a single other person around while we looked out over the snow capped mountains. The Central City area was a bust unless you like gambling. They have at least brought back the town from near ghost status but the old feel is now gone. The western side of Rocky Mountain National park is much nicer because Estes Park has way too much of a touristy feel to it. Camping at Pagosa Springs was very nice also and the pass just east of there was beautiful. I'll never forget leaving out of Silverton one morning during a snow storm in June and the sight of the snow covered pine trees as we were heading up the highway north out of Silverton. You and your family will have a blast.
Trå-Bulö - 07 Jul 2006 17:30 GMT > My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping trip > to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread about > propane/battery life. We'll be camping in our pop-up camper. Not to frighten you but friends of mine camped several places in CO in a pop-up camper. A bear must have smelled food and ripped off the whole front of the camper. The camper was trashed. She said had the bear got there a bit sooner it would have entered while they were getting ready to leave for the morning. Make sure you stay away from areas with bears. Since she passed away last year I cannot find out which park this happened in.
Tom Yost - 13 Jul 2006 20:05 GMT >> My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping trip >> to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread about [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >the morning. Make sure you stay away from areas with bears. Since she passed >away last year I cannot find out which park this happened in. Yes, there are bears in the mountain regions of the west, but I wouldn't be alarmed by this fact. Very unlikely the bear would have come near if the people were still in camp. Bears have a keen sense of smell and camping in bear country does require awareness of proper food storage.
Make sure you do not keep food in the popup in bear country and you will be OK. I would recommend this even if not in bear country because the tenting won't stop many critters - racoons, skunks and squirrels are well known opportunistic thieves.
Have fun - you will love Colorado.
Tom
Trå-Bulö - 15 Jul 2006 01:26 GMT >>> My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping trip >>> to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread about [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > smell and camping in bear country does require awareness of proper > food storage. Right! But for some reason people don't think of that when camping. When tent camping in the past we would leave the food cooler in the van. Not because of bears as there were none in that area, but because of coons and other hungry critters.
> Make sure you do not keep food in the popup in bear country and you > will be OK. I would recommend this even if not in bear country because > the tenting won't stop many critters - racoons, skunks and squirrels > are well known opportunistic thieves. YES! Exactly. We would see coons, possums, starving dogs and skunks in some campgrounds back in the northeast.
> Have fun - you will love Colorado. > > Tom Insty-Grill - 07 Jul 2006 20:16 GMT -snip
> We were tentatively planning on making kind of a circle around CO - > heading west, south, east and north again. Some of the places we [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Does anyone have any other ideas of 'can't miss' places to > camp/hike/see/etc.??? -snip
Be sure and visit the Bishops Castle -The Largest One Man Construction Project in the Country, quite possibly the World!
The easiest way to get to Bishop Castle is from I-25. Take exit #74 at Colorado City and head towards the mountains. (right off the exit ramp from the north and left off the exit ramp from the south) This puts you on Colorado state highway 165 and it's 24 miles without a turn to the Castle. You will see signs for the castle as you come upon it, and there's usually many cars out front.
The Scenic Route, from Colorado Springs, is to take Hwy. 115 south to Florence, turn left at the first traffic light onto Hwy. 67, turn right onto Hwy 96 in Wetmore and at the next junction you will see signs for the BishopCastle. Turn left there onto Hwy. 165 and it's 12 miles.
Bishop Castle can also be reached from the Salida area by heading east on Hwy. 50 to Texas Creek and turning right onto Hwy. 69 into Westcliffe. Turn left once in Westcliffe onto Hwy. 96 and travel until you see the Bishop Castle signs at the junction with Hwy. 165. Turn right and it's 12 miles.
For more information, feel free to call the property at 719.485.3040
-- Bob Stan, I love simple things <www.insty-grill.com>
RonB - 10 Jul 2006 02:43 GMT Eric: Boy you ask a lot of questions but it sounds like you have the loop figured out.
1) RMNP is a great start. We have been able to visit about 18-20 National Parks and Rocky is at the top of our list. Our biggest problem is we often return there instead of somewhere new (we live in Kansas). Glacier basin is a beautiful campground with a nice panoramic view of the range. There are several good hiking trails very close to the campground a) Bear Lake - short, scenic and not strenuous. b) Breirstat (sp?) Lake Trail. Trailheads at Bear Lake and near Glacier Basin Campground. Climbs to a lake on a ridge between the two and back down - Moderately Strenuous but well worth it. There are Many more good trails in the park. Also, if you have fairly good ground clearance, try the old Fall River Lake Road. It starts near Sheep's Meadow and takes you to the summit. It is the old original summit road (you do not need 4x4 but don't try it in a Camery). Sheep's Meadow is a great place to get a look at Bighorn sheep, elk and many other animals. By all means dedicate at least one day to crossing the divide on Trail Ridge Road and spend some time on the West Side. The Granby area lakes are beautiful and there are some nice shops and restaurants on that side. On a good day you might see moose in the West entrance area.
You mention horseback riding. This is available in the area between Moraine Park Campground and Glacier Basin. As memory serves me the meeting and start location is just below Moraine Campground. Also, don't miss the evening campfires. If shopping and shops are your thing Estes park is well worth a day or evenings. Several shops and resturants but crowded during the summer and kinda pricy.
2) In my opinion Brekenridge is more of a winter destination but it is a very touristy area. Exception is Lake Dillon which does have a nice campground. I, personally would spend more time at some of your other destinations.
3) Mesa Verde is a fascinating place. If your kids are five or above the whole family will love this place. We have been there three times and each offered new experiences. During peak season you might have to rely on park shuttles to get you to some of the dwellings but they do that pretty well. Also check out some of the shorter day-hikes that are available on mesa tops or along the ridges below the tops. There is a very easy trail near the campgrounds that takes you along the ridge on the North face of the main park mesa. It provides a spectacular view of Cortez, the desert and nearby mountain ranges. Very pretty evening hike when sun is going down and lights are coming on below.
A short day-trip from Mesa Verde takes you to Four Corners (not really a big deal but you can say you were there) and Ship's Rock. Ship's Rock is actually visible from several points in Mesa Verde but it is 1+ hours drive to the South of Cortez. It is a very interesting and photogneic volcanic plug with rays of magma extending miles across the desert floor.
3) Main attraction in Durango is the Durango-Silverton train ride but you will need reservations. If you can't take the train, Silverton is an hour or more North of Durango and well worth the drive. There is another excellent train ride the runs between Chama NM and San Antonito (sp? again) Colorado (About 35 Mi south of Alamosa and the Sand Dunes area). It probably requires reservations too but they might be easier to get. It is called the Cumbres-Toltec Railroad and you have the option to take the full ride from Chama to Antoinito or a half-trip from Chama to a halfway point and back. If you start from Antoinoto you take a bus to Chama and end up in Antoinoto. There is a very nice campground in Chama just minutes from the railhead.
4) Great Sand Dunes. Another great choice. We have been there several times and consider it to be one of the most peaceful among the National Parks and Monuments. This, of course will be tempered with summer crownds, but the dunes change colors and personality as the morning and evening sun sweeps across the sky. The kids will love the dunes and be sure to throw in a snow saucer or cardboard sheets for sleds. Real sleds are useless because the sink into the sand. This is another good place to take in the evening campfire programs. The park campfire theater is on a mountain side that provides a view across 100 miles of desert. Like Mesa Verde, you can sit in this area in the evening and watch shadows sweep darkness across the desert as lights go on in Alamosa, Del Norte and other cities.
The campground at the dunes can fill and I recommend getting there by mid afternoon. Full or not there is an excellent alternative just 10-15 minutes West of the National Park. San Luis Lake State Park provides a great view of the dunes from the west instead of the east. The park also has hookup if you use them. We spent several days there two years ago and found the afternoon 'light show' to be beautiful. This occurs when the late afternoon/evening showeres move across the mountains with the sun at you back. Rainbows and sheets of refracted sunlight pass across the dunes and Sangere De Cristo range behind them.
A hidden jewel of the Sand Dunes/Alamosa area is the town of Lan Luis which is about a one hour drive south of the Dunes. San Luis is one of the oldest towns in Colorado. In addition to local culture you will be treated to a feature that nearly floored us during our first visit. A mountain on the edge of town has a trail that leads to the top though the stations of the cross. Each station is depicted by 2/3 to life size BRONZE SCULPTURES. These are world-class art as we found out after our first hike up the hill. The artist that created the statues, Huberto Maestas, lived in and had a studio on main street of the town. Mr. Maestas has sculptures in churches and cities across the world including the Vatican. We were lucky enough to watch him pour and separate a piece of a statue while we were there. I am not sure he still lives there but the stations are. A drive from the sand dunes to San Luis and then across the desert toward Say Antoinito will provide you and your children with a great look at the local indian culture as it is (Not all pretty but real).
By the way, Alamosa is a nice high-desert college town full of good folks.
5) As you work you way from Mesa Verde/Durango over toward Alamosa you will cross Wolf Creek Pass. At the east base you can head up a good canyon road to the town of Creede. This is an old, box-canyon mining town that is full of things to see and friendly people. Creede has good campgrounds including the Antlers http://www.colorado-directory.com/antlersriograndelodge/ just outside of town. This park is small, friendly and has an excellent resturant. By all means take time to drive the mining roads above Creede. If you don't have 4x4, let a little air out of your tires because the roads just above town are steep. The only problem with Creede is it would be considered an overnight or multi-day destination because it take an hour or so to get there from the main highway.
6) Colorado Springs is OK but you might consider a night in Cripple Creek instead. It is another one of Colorado's old mining towns. Unfortunately, it like Blackhawk, Central City (both near Breckenridge) have been badly compromised by the Colorado Gaming industry. The problem with the springs is it is a large tourist area and it is hard to choose quality during a short stay.
By the way, don't worry too much about bears. Talk to the rangers in the national park areas and DO WHAT THEY SAY TO DO. In 30+ years of camping in National Parks and other areas we have seen two bears in Yellowstone (two weeks in park) and about five in Smoky Mountain NP. The park service does a pretty good job of controlling and informing. Lock food in your car and NOT in the camper. Keep the scent away from you living area and you shold be ok. We pull a 5th wheel now but pulled two different popups for years.
Lord, this has turned into a travel brochure. Ignore typos, because I ain't checking. Good Luck and enjoy your trip.
RonB
Eric Babula - 10 Jul 2006 12:02 GMT <snip great advice>
> Lord, this has turned into a travel brochure. Ignore typos, > because I ain't checking. Good Luck and enjoy your trip. > > RonB RonB - you are a virtual Travel Book! I could read your writings for days! Thanks so much for the great response! Obviously, you really do love RMNP, and Colorado in general!
And, thanks to all the others who have responded to my post! We'll take all this valuable information and try to figure out what we want to do, in what order. I can't wait to get there! Colorado sounds like much fun!
Oh, and RonB - about the bears: Apparently, you haven't spent much time in Glacier National Park, in Montana. Like RMNP is to you, Glacier is our favorite place to be, and we keep going back there about every other year! We generally stay on the east side, at Swiftcurrent Lodge, near the Many Glacier Hotel (Swiftcurrent is about 1/3 the price). There are quite a few trail heads right out of the Swiftcurrent parking lot! Very cool! Anyway, back to the bears: We've been to GNP 3 times, for about a week or two each time, and have seen no less than 15 bears (Grizzly and Black) EACH time we've been there! Very, very cool! Ok, maybe I have an unusual fondness for bears, and am more excited about seeing them than the average person, I'll admit. We've come very close to a few Grizzly bears (we accidentally came within about 20 feet of a full-grown Grizzly in one case, along the Iceberg Lake Trail - maybe that was closer than comfort would allow for most, but I sure got some great pics!) and have seen many from the mountainsides and roadsides. They are spectacular animals! But, they are very dangerous if spooked or threatened they might attack you (a guy and his daughter got mauled last August, when we were there - they inadvertently got between a mamma Grizzly and her cubs). So, if hiking in the woods where bears are known to frequent (like most of Glacier NP), always make sure you make plenty of noise so they know you're around, and they'll pretty much leave you alone (bears, generally speaking, are non-confrontational animals). And, if camping, take the usual precautions about securing food and trash, and giving bears no reason to enter your camp.
Anyways, thanks again to all who gave your advice to me! This will only add to the pleasure of our camping trip!
 Signature Eric Babula Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
I wish I were a glow worm, 'Cause a glow worm's never glum. How can you be unhappy When the sun shines out your bum?
RonB - 13 Jul 2006 21:51 GMT > Oh, and RonB - about the bears: Apparently, you haven't spent much time > in Glacier National Park, in Montana. No, Glacier has been a future destination for us for many years, but we just haven't pulled it off. I worked with an engineer who did ranger work for the park service during college years and lived close to Yellowstone. During his last year with the service they sent him to Glacier and he said he forgot Yellowstone even existed for a while. We have been to Yellowstone twice and during the last trip we saw a couple of bears just inside of the North entrance. They strictly enforce the bear rules at Yellowstone and Teton and have managed to keep them at bay.
We saw several at Smokey Mtn NP a couple of years ago, but the closest I have been to one was at Philmont Scout Ranch in NM. They tranquilized one just outside of our campsite one afternoon and our boys got see it in the barrel trap before they hauled him back up into the hills. Kind of a scraggly looking guy.
RonB
*MYSTIC* - 14 Jul 2006 00:53 GMT >>Oh, and RonB - about the bears: Apparently, you haven't spent much time >>in Glacier National Park, in Montana. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > RonB I've run off a couple of bears.
There first was a cub unaccompanied by his mum.
The second was an adult who decided my storage chest looked like an ice chest. If it had any actual food in it I would have let him have it. It did not so I chased him off. (but it did have my coffee pot!!!).
I am careful around bears. They are much more dangerous than I am. So the best solution is just make sure they find other campers more inviting that you.
Eric Babula - 14 Jul 2006 19:42 GMT >> Oh, and RonB - about the bears: Apparently, you haven't spent much >> time in Glacier National Park, in Montana. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > RonB Bears are amazing creatures to watch! I guess most animals are, really! That's part of why I love hiking in nature!
Something about bears that's really cool to me, though. Maybe their massive size and brute strength, yet the fact that they're generally passive animals and would rather avoid conflict. I'm just not sure.
Oh, oh - maybe I'm just another Timothy Treadwell in the making! LOL!
 Signature Eric Babula Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
I wish I were a glow worm, 'Cause a glow worm's never glum. How can you be unhappy When the sun shines out your bum?
Jim A - 15 Jul 2006 19:58 GMT > My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping trip > to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread about > propane/battery life. We'll be camping in our pop-up camper. ---- SNIP -----
> Eric Babula > Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA > > 2003 Jayco Eagle 10UD > 2004 Toyota Sienna Just got back yesterday from two weeks in western Colorado. Great trip.
We usually dry camp so don't have much experience at RV campgrounds with hook ups.
Stayed at Priest Gulch RV campground near Dolores, Right on Dolores River. Trees between campsites, not much spacing. Good fishing.
Drove thru Telluride, wasn't too impressed. Liked Ouray. Took Million Dollar Hwy to Silverton. Beautiful drive but make sure you're confident that TV can handle STEEP. Lots of off-road activity in this area. Lots of Jeep rental places, ATV guided trips. Lots of trails with some trails, I think, to several of the "Fourteener's", Colorado's 14,000 ft + peaks.
Spent three nights at Lightner Creek RV campground just outside Durango. OK campground, trees, marginal spacing, lots of amenities. Liked Durango area. Durago-Silverton Railroad trip to Silverton is a must if affordable and space available. Allday trip thru spectacular country. Try for outside gondola car.
LOTS of rafting & fishing in Durango area.
Went up to Pagossa Springs to Wolf Creek Pass and Continental Divide and camped at Lake City. Good fishing, pretty area.
Spent three nights at Three Rivers RV campground in Almont, between Gunnison & Crested Butte. OK campground, no trees, no spacing, lots of amenities, right on Taylor River. LOTS of rafting & excellent fishing. Head up to Gothic & Irwin Lake beyond Crested Butte for LOTS of hiking, with some trails to several of the Fouteener's, I think. LOTS of gorgeous, relatively easy, wildflower hikes.
Headed to Buena Vista via Cottonwood Pass, 12,126 ft and dirt road. Spectacular scenery. Decided to not take PU over Independence Pass so headed to MIntern & I-70 to Aspen area. Lots to do in Aspen, VERY expensive. Camped at Difficuat FS campground on Roaring Fork River 5 miles east of Aspen. Nice camp site, on river, excellent fishing and access to tons of trails, some to the Fourteeners, I think.
Hope this helps.
Have a Great trip.
Jim & Joan Thousand Oaks, CA 2000 Coleman Cheyenne - 2000 GMC Yukon>
Eric Babula - 16 Jul 2006 01:23 GMT >> My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping >> trip to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > Thousand Oaks, CA > 2000 Coleman Cheyenne - 2000 GMC Yukon> Thanks so much for the advice! Just in time for us, too! I'll print this out and talk about it with the wifey, for sure!
So, what was your favorite campground, and why?
What was your favorite place to visit, and why?
TIA,
 Signature Eric Babula Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
Jim A - 17 Jul 2006 00:49 GMT >>> My family (me, wife, 2 daughters - 10 and 12) is taking a camping >>> trip to Colorado on July 21st. You may remember my recent thread [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > TIA, Our favorite campground was Difficult FS campground near Aspen. No hookups. Just a real pretty, quiet campground with access to good fishing and the "luxuries" of Aspen.
Favorite area was the Gunnison/Almont/Crested Butte area. Just lots to do there. The Three Rivers RV campground is not our favorite type camping but worked out real well. We weren't around the camp much during the day and it rained a lot while we were there so we just stayed cozy in the PU in the evening. Joan didn't care for the showers. I thought they were OK. Clean at least. And Almont is 10 miles from Gunnison with real markets and things.
The Durango Silverton Railroad trip was a highlight of the trip.
As a piece of side advice, if you take a lap top computer with you and have WiFi, there are free unsecure access points in Durango & Gunnison at the respective visitor centers. The visitor center in Durango is on Hwy 550 about 1/4 mile south of 160 east, right on the river. In Gunnison it's on Hwy 50 a couple of blocks east of 135, the hwy to Almont & Crested Butte. Three River RV campground has dial up service in their office.
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