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KidThrifty - 24 Nov 2006 03:18 GMT
I read it's good to put grease on the ball hitch when you use it.  Is this
true?  I don't have any automotive grease.  Is there anything else commonly
found in a house or garage that I might could use?
Thanks
tobe - 24 Nov 2006 03:31 GMT
Some people use grease on the ball, but some do not.  It is a good idea,
but you will not cause damage if you tow without it for a while.  You
can get a small can of grease at any auto parts store.  Nothing else you
have at home will really be the right stuff.

> I read it's good to put grease on the ball hitch when you use it.  Is this
> true?  I don't have any automotive grease.  Is there anything else commonly
> found in a house or garage that I might could use?
Tomes - 24 Nov 2006 04:25 GMT
You know, when I had my first popup I greased the ball as I heard that it
was the thing to do.  I used axle grease as I has a tube of it that was
sitting on my shelf in the garage that was not doing anything else.  I
dabbed a bit on the ball each time.  The downside was that I _always_ ended
up with grease on my leg or on my pants - every time.  I would unhook, start
unloading stuff and then look down and be chagrinned.  I tried to remember
to wipe it off or pull off the drawbar or somesuch, but I never would, the
sieve-head that I am.

So one day I had the epiphany to stop doing this (insanity is doing the same
thing over and over and expecting a different result...).  It took a few
trips until the residual grease that was lurking up in the tongue was gone,
but after a while my legs stayed clean.  Imagine that.  Furthermore, I had
no difference in performance.  No wear on the ball or on the tongue (yep, I
looked).  Imagine that.  It remained this way for a few years until that
trailer got rear-ended and totaled.  Now on my current popup I have not
lubricated it once, and still use the same 2 inch ball.  I see no wear and
it all swivels just fine.  My legs remain clean.

My conclusion from my observations is that it is not necessary and becomes a
nuisance.
Hope this helps,
Tomes

> I read it's good to put grease on the ball hitch when you use it.  Is this
> true?  I don't have any automotive grease.  Is there anything else
> commonly found in a house or garage that I might could use?
> Thanks
RichA - 24 Nov 2006 21:50 GMT
>I read it's good to put grease on the ball hitch when you use it.  Is this
>true?  I don't have any automotive grease.  Is there anything else commonly
>found in a house or garage that I might could use?
>Thanks

Hi,
Some folks do and some don't.  If you do use marine grease as it will
not be affected by water and stay on longer.  You don't need tons of
grease either, just a light coating.   I do and put a sliced tennis ball
over the ball when not in use, when I remember that is :)  Helps keep
getting grease all over pants and legs.

Take Care and Happy Campin...
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"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"

Tomes - 25 Nov 2006 04:20 GMT
>>I read it's good to put grease on the ball hitch when you use it.  Is this
>>true?  I don't have any automotive grease.  Is there anything else
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> over the ball when not in use, when I remember that is :)  Helps keep
> getting grease all over pants and legs.

LOL - I have one of those plastic ball cover thingies too and I always
forgot to use it until too late.....
Tomes
Jim Redelfs - 25 Nov 2006 08:50 GMT
>> Helps keep getting grease all over pants and legs.

> LOL - I have one of those plastic ball cover thingies too and I always
> forgot to use it until too late.....

I am beginning to wonder if I'm "the only" one whose hitch ball never sees the
light of day - or my pants.  It is *ALWAYS* inside the trailer's locked
coupler.

My first removable hitch was a Class II, the mini version of what is used for
large travel trailers.  I always removed the drawbar/ball and stored it out of
the way.  Then I got the travel trailer and the larger hitch.

Now, when unhitching, I remove the pin and lower the tongue jack until the
drawbar "breaks loose" inside the receiver.  I then carefully pull away the
tow vehicle.  The hitch ball and drawbar REMAIN coupled to the trailer, where
they are locked.  I view this as improved security for BOTH the trailer and
hitch/drawbar assembly and a very convenient place to STORE the drawbar.  (I
can't stand the sight of a drawbar RUSTED into its receiver.)

The next time I camp (next Spring <sigh>), I'll have to walk the campground
and watch particularly for anyone else using this practice.

In practice, my greasy hitch ball is exposed only for the short trip from its
storage place (trailer coupler) to platform receiver on the pickup,
immediately prior to hitching.

Now, where did I put the KEYS to that damned lock!   <BFG>
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Karl & Angela - 25 Nov 2006 13:10 GMT
> Now, when unhitching, I remove the pin and lower the tongue jack until the
> drawbar "breaks loose" inside the receiver.  I then carefully pull away
> the
> tow vehicle.

But, you have learned to be on level ground when driving away!!  :)

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Jim Redelfs - 25 Nov 2006 14:07 GMT
>> Now, when unhitching, I remove the pin and lower the tongue jack until
>> the drawbar "breaks loose" inside the receiver.  I then carefully pull
>> away the tow vehicle.

> But, you have learned to be on level ground when driving away!!  :)

Aw, picky, picky, picky!  You were witness to one of only two times I can
think of before I learned THAT particular lesson!   <sigh>

Heck, with your no-brain job, you probably screw-up like that all the time and
no one notices!

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it's gonna happen any time.
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Tomes - 26 Nov 2006 00:59 GMT
> My first removable hitch was a Class II, the mini version of what is used
> for
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> (I
> can't stand the sight of a drawbar RUSTED into its receiver.)

This has just never occurred to me to do this, Jim.  It does seem like an
intriguing idea.  What is your procedure for reconnecting?
Tomes - of the Class II hitch that actually had it rusted together before I
was rear-ended, and now take the drawbar out at the end of each trip.  It
sure beats wrenching off the ball nut when I use the other utility trailer
with the 1 7/8 ball; I now have a drawbar for each ball.
Jim Redelfs - 26 Nov 2006 18:34 GMT
>> [Except when actually towing, including WHILE CAMPED]
>> the hitch ball and drawbar REMAIN coupled to the trailer

> What is your procedure for reconnecting?

No different than yours, once the drawbar is pinned back in the receiver.

I simply remove the drawbar from its storage place (trailer coupler), install
it on the pickup and go from there with the normal hitching process.

>> (I can't stand the sight of a drawbar RUSTED into its receiver.)

> Tomes - of the Class II hitch that actually had it
> rusted together before I as rear-ended

My shins could never keep from accidentally colliding with the fixed hitch
(Class I) on my first station wagon.  I guess I'm smarter at other things.  
<sigh>

When I replaced tow vehicles, I got the receiver/drawbar-type hitch.  I JUMPED
at the chance to give my shins some relief.  I simply covered the greasy ball
and put the thing under the camper or in the covered compartment (rear
footwell) of the 8-passenger wagon.

When I got the full-size platform/hitch lashup, the assembly that was attached
to the drawbar was so massive, heavy and intimidating that I knew I had to
find a good, EASY but secure place to keep it.  Why not the locked trailer
coupler?  I'm not hauling it around and it's mere INCHES away from the
receiver when I next hitch-up.

<http://static.flickr.com/120/306759379_6c8c476c91.jpg>

(I love digital photography!  I'm sure the neighbors think I'm nuts:  The
attached garage door opens, the guy steps out with his camera, snaps a photo
of the HITCH of his camping trailer, goes back inside and closes the garage
door.)

> I now take the drawbar out at the end of each trip.

If NOTHING else, removing a hitch between uses dresses-up the back of the tow
vehicle.

> It sure beats wrenching off the ball nut when I use the other
> utility trailer with the 1 7/8 ball

Admittedly mine is even MORE exposed to the elements than one that resides on
the back end of a GARAGED car, but not to the road chemicals in winter.  A
drawbar is easily the heaviest-duty component of a lashup and, therefore,
tougher than nails.  I've been doing this for years.  The trailer is showing
its age but the drawbar assembly is *NO* worse for wear.

> I now have a drawbar for each ball.

It makes sense.  I keep a 2-inch-balled drawbar in the back of the pickup.  I
used it for towing a U-Haul trailer and, a few times, my 30-gal tote tank.
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Tomes - 27 Nov 2006 00:40 GMT
>>> [Except when actually towing, including WHILE CAMPED]
>>> the hitch ball and drawbar REMAIN coupled to the trailer
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> install
> it on the pickup and go from there with the normal hitching process.

I thought so (or at least I was hoping so <grin>).  I was fearing that you
somehow lined up that square rod into the square hole while backing up.  I
am _very_ glad not to hear this.

>>> (I can't stand the sight of a drawbar RUSTED into its receiver.)
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> (Class I) on my first station wagon.  I guess I'm smarter at other things.
> <sigh>

Yepper, this was the other problem I had - besides getting all greasy, I was
all banged up too.  Now both drawbars sit on the shelf in the garage until
needed.  My wife agrees with you (below) in that the Sienna looks a lot
better without the hitch too.
Tomes

> When I replaced tow vehicles, I got the receiver/drawbar-type hitch.  I
> JUMPED
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> I
> used it for towing a U-Haul trailer and, a few times, my 30-gal tote tank.
AustinMN - 28 Nov 2006 14:48 GMT
> > My shins could never keep from accidentally colliding with the fixed hitch
> > (Class I) on my first station wagon.  I guess I'm smarter at other things.
> > <sigh>
>
> Yepper, this was the other problem I had - besides getting all greasy, I was
> all banged up too.

There is a term for that permanent dent in your shin from either
*repeatedly* banging the hitch (or coupler - less common with pop-ups
because the bed end keeps you from walking too close), or banging it so
hard one time that there is a permanent dent.  It's called a "hitch
dingle," and I have one on each shin.

Austin
Tomes - 28 Nov 2006 21:00 GMT
>> > My shins could never keep from accidentally colliding with the fixed
>> > hitch
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> hard one time that there is a permanent dent.  It's called a "hitch
> dingle," and I have one on each shin.

Yep, I definitely had the hitch dingle.  Good words - I intend to use them.
Tomes
RichA - 26 Nov 2006 18:28 GMT
>>> Helps keep getting grease all over pants and legs.
>
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>
>Now, where did I put the KEYS to that damned lock!   <BFG>
Hi,
When I had my TT with the Hensley Hitch you had to do that :)  With a
regular hitch it's to big of a pain hitching back up, for me anyways.
If I'm not going to use the hitch bar for a few weeks or months I just
pull it out and put it in the garage.

Take care and Happy Campin...
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"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"

AustinMN - 27 Nov 2006 20:13 GMT
> I read it's good to put grease on the ball hitch when you use it.  Is this
> true?  I don't have any automotive grease.  Is there anything else commonly
> found in a house or garage that I might could use?
> Thanks

I don't use grease, I use wax paper.  Wax paper isn't really coated
with wax, it's coated with parafin, a petroleum distillate that happens
to be a solid at room temperature.  (Grease is typically a petroleum
distillate that happens to be a goo at room temperature.)  It lubes the
hitch ball as well as grease, and leaves no residue.  Four layers (a
square sheet folded in half and then in quarters) wrapped around the
ball will last for at least a day's worth of towing.

When you arrive, use the used sheet it to light the campfire.

Austin
Karl & Angela - 28 Nov 2006 05:15 GMT
> I don't use grease, I use wax paper.  Wax paper isn't really coated
> with wax, it's coated with parafin, a petroleum distillate that happens
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Austin

What a great idea!  Thanks!

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Mark Filice - 29 Nov 2006 23:04 GMT
>Four layers (a
>square sheet folded in half and then in quarters) wrapped around the
>ball will last for at least a day's worth of towing.
>
>When you arrive, use the used sheet it to light the campfire.

Back in the old days when this group was really active (nee 2000), there was a
very popular poster named Linda King. IIRC, she was having a problem with a
hitch ball cover and complained to the company.

She received a case of them in the mail from them.

Mark Filice
2004 Homestead Settler 255RS
1999 Chevrolet Suburban 2500
 
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