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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / December 2006

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Question about Dometic Fridge

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KidThrifty - 27 Nov 2006 02:58 GMT
Hello to all.
I just took my pop up out for the first time.  I have a Dometic refrigerator
that runs on AC or LP.
I turned it on AC with all the power hooked up and started running the unit
just as the instructions stated.  After a little while, I noticed that the
bottom of the freezer was getting cold so I thought everything was working.
Then probably 6 hours later, it had not changed and if anything it felt
warmer.
I was curious how these things work and if I have a problem with mine.  I
suspect this is like the mini bar refrigerators at a hotel.  They take
forever to get cold and if there is nothing in them, they don't feel cold at
all.  Is this correct?
The purpose of running this thing on this trip was just to make sure it
worked.  The only thing I had inside it was a can of coke.
Anyway,  any insight would be helpful.
Thanks
asadi - 27 Nov 2006 11:42 GMT
> Hello to all.
> I just took my pop up out for the first time.  I have a Dometic
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> Anyway,  any insight would be helpful.
> Thanks

Well, I may not be of any help, but I'll tell you my experience.

I usually have some chili, breakfast gravy and so forth forzen before hand.
This helps my unit get cold. I also turn it on the night before leaving...it
takes at least twelve hours to warm up...er, cool down.

If the unit is cold and you put in nine or ten cans of warm drink, well,
you'll just overload that little sucker for at least twelve hours...it will
actually warm up in side.

The temp control (on mine anyway) is a high - medium - low type setting...it
will take a while to get used to. If it is warm out...use high...

I dont' think your experience is all that different. You will need another
trip or backyard test of about 24 hours or so on the high setting before you
can tell if you have a problem or not...

john
Chuck James - 27 Nov 2006 11:57 GMT
> Hello to all.
> I just took my pop up out for the first time.  I have a Dometic
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> Anyway,  any insight would be helpful.
> Thanks
I suggest that you might get a thermometer, and let the refrigerator run for
a while.  That's the only way you'll know for sure.  You can even do that in
your driveway or backyard.
Rich256 - 27 Nov 2006 15:44 GMT
>> Hello to all.
>> I just took my pop up out for the first time.  I have a Dometic
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> a while.  That's the only way you'll know for sure.  You can even do that in
> your driveway or backyard.

And if you have a sloping driveway be certain that the trailer (Fridge)
is level.  I know someone who ruined a motorhome refrigerator by
pre-cooling in their sloping driveway.  It lasted through warranty. cost
them about $1400 to replace it.
KidThrifty - 27 Nov 2006 18:42 GMT
I thought it was only when you run off LP that it was critical to be level.
Can someone confirm?
Thanks

>>> Hello to all.
>>> I just took my pop up out for the first time.  I have a Dometic
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> in their sloping driveway.  It lasted through warranty. cost them about
> $1400 to replace it.
Calif Bill - 27 Nov 2006 18:47 GMT
>I thought it was only when you run off LP that it was critical to be level.
> Can someone confirm?
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>> pre-cooling in their sloping driveway.  It lasted through warranty. cost
>> them about $1400 to replace it.

It matters not which heat source.  It is the heat that causes the crystals
to form.
Rich256 - 27 Nov 2006 19:25 GMT
> I thought it was only when you run off LP that it was critical to be level.
> Can someone confirm?
> Thanks

The problem is in the ammonia refrigerant.  It must flow freely down the
condensing tubes.  If it puddles it can crystallize plugging the tubes.

When you are moving the bouncing around takes care of any uneven
situations.  However, when parked for an extended time it is best to
either turn it off or make certain it is close to level.  Just
comfortably level is good enough.  If you were far off level that would
affect the cooling too.

http://www.rverscorner.com/articles/refer.html

http://www.nh3tech.org/abs.html
Jim Redelfs - 28 Nov 2006 03:51 GMT
> I thought it was only when you run off LP that it was critical to be level.
> Can someone confirm?

When parked and operating an absorption (RV) refrigerator, it must be level.  
Period.  As Rich said, comfortably level is sufficient, negating the need for
a level, plumb bob or surveyor's transit.
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JR

Wesley - 30 Nov 2006 13:06 GMT
IF it's one of the "newer" models with a round boiler on it.  The older ones
with the square boiler need to be as level as possible.  But...unlikely many
folks here have one that old...

Wesley

> When parked and operating an absorption (RV) refrigerator, it must be level.
> Period.  As Rich said, comfortably level is sufficient, negating the need for
> a level, plumb bob or surveyor's transit.
Karl & Angela - 28 Nov 2006 05:30 GMT
> I thought it was only when you run off LP that it was critical to be
> level. Can someone confirm?
> Thanks

It cools the same way regardless of the power source.  It's an evaporative
cooler, with electric you are just using a heating element to provide the
heat that the propane flame would.  Most RV fridges cool better with
propane than electric, or so says the service manager where I take mine.
(It has also been my experience)

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Karl & Angela
`02 Durango
`05 Fleetwood Allegiance

Chuck James - 28 Nov 2006 13:02 GMT
>> I thought it was only when you run off LP that it was critical to be
>> level. Can someone confirm?
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> propane than electric, or so says the service manager where I take mine.
> (It has also been my experience)

I have yet to use the Propane cooling method for the refrigerator, since I
tend to camp with the trailer, where there is electricity.  Even on a upper
mid-range cooling setting, the refrigerator will freeze "things" on the
bottom at the back of it.  Since it gets that cold with electricity, I have
not yet had a need to run it off of Proane.
Rich256 - 28 Nov 2006 14:43 GMT
>>> I thought it was only when you run off LP that it was critical to be
>>> level. Can someone confirm?
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> bottom at the back of it.  Since it gets that cold with electricity, I have
> not yet had a need to run it off of Proane.

Many of us don't use campgrounds that have electric.

Since my trailer doesn't have the 12 volt option, I use propane when
pulling.
Karl & Angela - 28 Nov 2006 15:55 GMT
> I have yet to use the Propane cooling method for the refrigerator, since I
> tend to camp with the trailer, where there is electricity.  Even on a
> upper mid-range cooling setting, the refrigerator will freeze "things" on
> the
> bottom at the back of it.  Since it gets that cold with electricity, I
> have not yet had a need to run it off of Proane.

Everyone is different, we almost NEVER camp where there is electric.  Unlike
other posters here, we have no trouble making a 20 lb bottle of propane
last most of a season when camping in the Snowy Mountains, (elev ~7,500ft,
August night temps ~30-40).  

We use the camper to get AWAY from everyone/everything, and even in our
favorite areas, the camp grounds (IF we stay in them, not a even bet)
rarely have electric available.  Usually, they have a fire ring, maybe
picnic table, and a outhouse, but some of the most beautiful country
around, as well as excellent trout fishing.

It is great to sit in utter silence, and watch the hummingbirds fight over
the feeder that Angela often puts out for them - damn but I wish I could
fly like that - but then again, so do the Blue Angels, or watch the Moose
and the deer wander through the campsite!
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`02 Durango
`05 Fleetwood Allegiance

BuckerooBilly - 28 Nov 2006 14:28 GMT
>"Rich256" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>
>> And if you have a sloping driveway be certain that the trailer (Fridge) is
>> level.  I know someone who ruined a motorhome refrigerator by pre-cooling
>> in their sloping driveway.  It lasted through warranty. cost them about
>> $1400 to replace it.

>I thought it was only when you run off LP that it was critical to be level.
>Can someone confirm?
>Thanks

Either be moving, or level when stationary, no matter the source of
power.
Three and two way reefers work on the same "principle of ammonia
refrigeration, it's just the method of how the heat is applied to the
solution in the perc tube.  Electric uses a resistive heater instead
of a gas fuel flame.

Visit this site for information:

http://rvmobile.com/Tech/Trouble/cooldoc.htm

Of course, this assumes a single type of refrigeration system of the
ammonia/water/hydrogen type.  If the unit has both the ammonia and a
compressor type, one can usually operate the compressor worked
refrigerator out of level and stationary.
Karl & Angela - 28 Nov 2006 05:20 GMT
> Hello to all.
> I just took my pop up out for the first time.  I have a Dometic
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Anyway,  any insight would be helpful.
> Thanks

I wanted to say that it is VERY important to make sure the trailer is level
when running the fridge.  Not only will it cool better, it will last longer
(you can kill the fridge by not having it level when run).

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`02 Durango
`05 Fleetwood Allegiance

KidThrifty - 03 Dec 2006 16:27 GMT
Thanks Everyone.
I know we were probably not level enough on our first campout.  I tried and
tried but never could find a spot where I could get level.

>> Hello to all.
>> I just took my pop up out for the first time.  I have a Dometic
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> longer
> (you can kill the fridge by not having it level when run).
Calif Bill - 03 Dec 2006 18:59 GMT
> Thanks Everyone.
> I know we were probably not level enough on our first campout.  I tried
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>> longer
>> (you can kill the fridge by not having it level when run).

You need to throw in some leveling blocks.  Best I ever had were some
aluminum chocks that I unfortunately did not keep when I traded in a motor
home.  I use Trex blocks left over from my deck project and they are better
than wood blocks as they ar 50% plastic and do not get soaked from setting
on the wet ground.
Rich256 - 03 Dec 2006 21:00 GMT
> Thanks Everyone.
> I know we were probably not level enough on our first campout.  I tried and
> tried but never could find a spot where I could get level.

Many of us just use pieces of 2x6 planks or even 2x4.  Do you have a
level?  I think best to measure at the refrigerator or on the stove.
External mounted levels make it a lot easier.

http://www.newrver.com/rvlevelingtrailer.shtml
Tomes - 03 Dec 2006 22:56 GMT
>> Thanks Everyone.
>> I know we were probably not level enough on our first campout.  I tried
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> level?  I think best to measure at the refrigerator or on the stove.
> External mounted levels make it a lot easier.

External mounted levels make all the difference in the world.  I have them
mounted on each side.
Tomes
 
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