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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / November 2006

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Jeff Burke - 29 Nov 2006 18:38 GMT
Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb boat?
If roof racks are installed, can the roof itself handle the weight of a small
boat without self destructing?

Thanks.
AustinMN - 29 Nov 2006 18:51 GMT
> Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb boat?
> If roof racks are installed, can the roof itself handle the weight of a small
> boat without self destructing?
>
> Thanks.

That depends.  How old is the pop-up?  Most new ones will hold that
much and more.  Does it have an air conditioner on the roof?  The
weight of the A/C comes off the total capacity of the roof.  Will the
boat remain on the roof when the pop-up is opened?  Most pop-up roofsw
have significantly lower weight ratings when poened than when closed.
Besides, unless you spring for an electric lift, you have to lift the
extra weight of the boat when you crank the roof.

Tell us what pop-up you have (or are looking at) and we can be more
specific.

Austin
Jeff Burke - 29 Nov 2006 19:08 GMT
>> Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb boat?
>> If roof racks are installed, can the roof itself handle the weight of a small
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>
>That depends.  How old is the pop-up?  

Unsure, I'm at the shopping/fact finding stage of this.

>Most new ones will hold that
>much and more.  Does it have an air conditioner on the roof?  The
>weight of the A/C comes off the total capacity of the roof.  Will the
>boat remain on the roof when the pop-up is opened?

I have no intension of leaving the boat on the roof when the roof is raised.

>Tell us what pop-up you have (or are looking at) and we can be more
>specific.

I've narrowed down the brands to Coleman/Fleetwood, Jayco and Starcraft.
Probably small size so my V6 Dakota can tow it and older to keep costs down.
Tomes - 29 Nov 2006 19:42 GMT
>>> Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb boat?
>>> If roof racks are installed, can the roof itself handle the weight of a
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> Probably small size so my V6 Dakota can tow it and older to keep costs
> down.

When I tow the popup and carry a canoe, I put the canoe on the Sienna
instead of on the trailer.  It is a more stable arrangement, it seems to me.
I would not want that sail on the trailer in a crosswind.  On the Sienna it
takes it fine.
Tomes
Jeff Burke - 29 Nov 2006 20:30 GMT
>>>> Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb boat?
>>>> If roof racks are installed, can the roof itself handle the weight of a
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>takes it fine.
>Tomes

That has been considered. Usually I take the boat to the lake on a small boat
trailer, I have found in my old age that my shoulders will no longer tolerate
lifting the boat up to a car/truck topper rack. That's why I'm looking into a
camper that might also double as a boat carrier and a pop-up camper is a much
lower lift of the boat than my PU truck with shell mounted. So, now I want the
comfort that a trailer offers over a tent and I want to take the boat with me.
Calif Bill - 29 Nov 2006 21:12 GMT
>>>>> Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb
>>>>> boat?
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> comfort that a trailer offers over a tent and I want to take the boat with
> me.

Look at the Eide loader for truck racks.  Powered.
Tomes - 30 Nov 2006 03:09 GMT
>>>>> Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb
>>>>> boat?
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> comfort that a trailer offers over a tent and I want to take the boat with
> me.

Yep, I can see that pretty clearly.  I have a couple of kids who aid greatly
in the lifting part (like, get them to do it, <grin>).  I do like the
thoughts that RichA had on thoroughly spreading out the force all over the
roof versus concentrating it on roof rack points.

Oh, and getting out of a tent and up off of the ground into a popup counts
for everything for us.  You will not regret that part at all.
Tomes
RichA - 29 Nov 2006 20:32 GMT
>Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb boat?
>If roof racks are installed, can the roof itself handle the weight of a small
>boat without self destructing?
>
>Thanks.
Hi,
I used to carry a 12 foot deep V boat on the top of our pop up years
ago on trips to Canada.  The roof itself carried it OK.  You need to
mount it in such a way so that it does not bounce on the roof itself and
the edges of the boat don't damage the roof.  I used thick rubber mats
and cloth on the edges of the roof where the boat made contact.  My boat
only made contact on the front and back edges not in the middle of the
roof.  I don't know about putting racks on the roof.  Those roofs are
not very thick and racks will concentrate all the weight and bouncing in
one area.

The only problem I had was the roof either was not closed right or
opened up a bit once and the bouncing of the boat and roof together did
some minor damage to the edges where the roof met the sides. So that is
something to think about.

It's not the best place to carry a boat for sure.  Maybe a rack across
the front of the A frame that sticks up above the roof and another from
the bumper up above the roof.  With the boat sitting on those racks
while in travel.

Take care and Happy Campin...

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"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"

Mark Filice - 29 Nov 2006 23:30 GMT
>Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb boat?
>If roof racks are installed, can the roof itself handle the weight of a small
>boat without self destructing?
>
>Thanks.

Yes. I remember a picture of a Starcraft popup with another Starcraft popup on
top of it.

Here is a website for racks you might find useful:

http://www.sixnall.com/

Mark
"Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't"
JS - 30 Nov 2006 04:07 GMT
> Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb boat?
> If roof racks are installed, can the roof itself handle the weight of a
> small
> boat without self destructing?
>
> Thanks.

I have an old 78 Lionel and put a 12 foot aluminum boat on it.  I use Canoe
foamies and place them on the ends of the trailer so the weight is
concentrated on the cross members of the edge of the roof.  I then ratchet
strap the boat on angles forward and back down to the trailer frame so it
wont slide back and forth.  It works great.  I have bought a newer Jayco and
it is longer than my boat so I will have to get crafty in order to mount the
boat.  I might go with a truck rack instead and put a bike rack on the
trailer.
Calif Bill - 30 Nov 2006 04:52 GMT
>> Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb boat?
>> If roof racks are installed, can the roof itself handle the weight of a
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> mount the boat.  I might go with a truck rack instead and put a bike rack
> on the trailer.

I just installed the instant rain gutter clips to the side of my Palomino
B-800 and install a roof rack when i need to carry the kayaks.  The aluminum
boat weighs 3400#, so will not fit.
asadi - 30 Nov 2006 11:25 GMT
> Will the roof of the typical pop-up support the weight of a 100lb boat?
> If roof racks are installed, can the roof itself handle the weight of a
> small
> boat without self destructing?
>
> Thanks.

For what it's worth, I haul my 2 kayaks on the roof ....39 lbs. each.  There
are also belly boats and pontoon boats and all manner of things lighter and
easier to haul than a aluminum boat....

john

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