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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / January 2007

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To shovel snow off roof or not to shovel

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Eksak - 07 Jan 2007 06:51 GMT
I have a question, Today I was out shoveling the snow off of my Popup roof,
it had about 1.5 feet of snow on it.  I have done this numerous times so
far this winter.  I store it on base with about 400 other campers and
Popups, but I seem to be the only one that is taking the time to clear the
snow off of the roof.  Is it a waste of time to take the snow off of the
roof, or does it actually help to keep it on.  Right now the snow is up to
the roof itself.
asadi - 07 Jan 2007 13:17 GMT
>I have a question, Today I was out shoveling the snow off of my Popup roof,
> it had about 1.5 feet of snow on it.  I have done this numerous times so
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> roof, or does it actually help to keep it on.  Right now the snow is up to
> the roof itself.

Have you ever seen a roof leak caused by snow piling up in the valley's of a
house?

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure...

john...I use a broom...
Jim Redelfs - 07 Jan 2007 15:14 GMT
> I have a question, Today I was out shoveling the snow off of my Popup roof,
> it had about 1.5 feet of snow on it.  I have done this numerous times so
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> roof, or does it actually help to keep it on.  Right now the snow is up to
> the roof itself.

If you get so much snow that it crushes or otherwise damages the popup roof,
that would be the LEAST of your worries.  Popup roofs are built to withstand
the weight of an air conditioner and/or bicycles and boats.  A couple feet of
accumulated snow shouldn't hurt anything.  If the roof leaks (a *VERY* bad
thing), it's going to leak in the rain as well.

Leave the snow alone.  Using the trailer tongue jack, many folks store their
camper out-of-level (tilted fore or aft) to encourage water/snow run-off.
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JR

tobe - 07 Jan 2007 16:51 GMT
Snow can weigh between 20 and 50 pounds per cubic foot (depending
whether it is light and fluffy, or wet and sticky).  Let's say your
camper roof is 8 ft wide and 12 ft long, or 96 square ft.  That would
mean that snow 1 ft deep would add the weight of 1920 to 4800 pounds to
your roof!  Snow two feet deep would weigh between 3840 and 9600 pounds
- yep, 2 to 5 tons!! [Note, you are now clearly exceeding the weight
limits of the axle assembly, and putting just that much more stress on
one part of the wheel bearings, causing much more wear.]

Additionally, snow left on the roof may melt some on warmer or sunnier
days, then freeze at night.  This ice build-up at the bottom of the snow
pile weights about 62 pounds per square foot PLUS whatever new snow
falls on top of it.

Do your own math for your camper.  Myself, I would shovel or sweep off
the snow!

> I have a question, Today I was out shoveling the snow off of my Popup roof,
> it had about 1.5 feet of snow on it.  I have done this numerous times so
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> roof, or does it actually help to keep it on.  Right now the snow is up to
> the roof itself.
Newt - 07 Jan 2007 18:08 GMT
> I have a question, Today I was out shoveling the snow off of my Popup roof,
> it had about 1.5 feet of snow on it.  I have done this numerous times so
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> roof, or does it actually help to keep it on.  Right now the snow is up to
> the roof itself.
I saw a regular TT crushed because the weight of the snow....

    Newt
Eksak - 08 Jan 2007 02:11 GMT
That really made me feel better about going out and shoveling the snow off.  
Thanks all for the feedback.
Mark Jones - 08 Jan 2007 02:42 GMT
> That really made me feel better about going out and shoveling the
> snow off. Thanks all for the feedback.

You can bet that I would be cleaning it off. It is a good idea
to clean off any structure that has a foot or more snow on
it because that is a lot of added weight. It is even worse
if you have a lot of snow on your pop-up and the wind is
blowing hard at the same time. That introcuces another
load factor that can flatten things.
altar nospam - 08 Jan 2007 06:53 GMT
>> That really made me feel better about going out and shoveling the
>> snow off. Thanks all for the feedback.
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>blowing hard at the same time. That introcuces another
>load factor that can flatten things.

If the wind is blowing, wouldn't it blow the snow off? At least that's
what happens around here.

Tom
Mark Jones - 08 Jan 2007 13:09 GMT
>>> That really made me feel better about going out and shoveling the
>>> snow off. Thanks all for the feedback.
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> If the wind is blowing, wouldn't it blow the snow off? At least that's
> what happens around here.

Not if it is wet snow. It packs down and stays in place until
it melts. Snow can be light and easily blown around or it
can be real wet and sticking to everything.
asadi - 08 Jan 2007 03:09 GMT
I said BROOM dammit!

john

> That really made me feel better about going out and shoveling the snow
> off.
> Thanks all for the feedback.
Tony Wesley - 08 Jan 2007 04:49 GMT
> I said BROOM dammit!

I've used a small electric snow blower on the roof of a house.
Rich256 - 08 Jan 2007 04:52 GMT
> I said BROOM dammit!
>
> john

Sweep off a foot and a half with a broom???   Especially when the snow
is heavy and wet?

I usually leave an inch or so on top and let the sun melt it.  But use a
big shovel to move off the top layers.  But mine is a 5th wheel so a bit
bigger job.
Tony Wesley - 08 Jan 2007 12:47 GMT
> > I said BROOM dammit!

> Sweep off a foot and a half with a broom???   Especially when the snow
> is heavy and wet?

Maybe the tool to use is a snow rake.
 http://images.google.com/images?q=%22snow+rake%22
Rich256 - 08 Jan 2007 14:43 GMT
>>> I said BROOM dammit!
>
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> Maybe the tool to use is a snow rake.
>   http://images.google.com/images?q=%22snow+rake%22

Not for me.  I have a rubber roof.
Tony Wesley - 08 Jan 2007 16:19 GMT
> >>> I said BROOM dammit!
> >
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> > Maybe the tool to use is a snow rake.
> >   http://images.google.com/images?q=%22snow+rake%22

> Not for me.  I have a rubber roof.

Not even this one?

http://www.hondacuraworld.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SR
18&Category_Code=GFT

Rich256 - 08 Jan 2007 17:06 GMT
>>>>> I said BROOM dammit!
>>>> Sweep off a foot and a half with a broom???   Especially when the snow
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>
> http://www.hondacuraworld.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SR
18&Category_Code=GFT

Yeah, that should be ok.  I have something like that with a rubber
scrapper.  Want to be real careful not to cut that rubber membrane.

Main thing is to get some of that weight off the axles.   Parked next to
a building I have had the snow drift to where it is probably three or
four feet deep.  Usually I just slide a big scoop in and pull out big
chucks letting it fall to the ground, not getting near the roof itself.
   Usually it is too heavy to use a rake type device.
Frank Tabor - 08 Jan 2007 19:12 GMT
> Usually I just slide a big scoop in and pull out big
> chucks

Well, you ought to tell Chuck to stay out of there.  The little chucks are
bad enough without having Big Chucks.

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The sight of death frightens them [Earthers].
        -- Kras the Klingon, "Friday's Child", stardate 3497.2

Rich256 - 08 Jan 2007 22:58 GMT
>> Usually I just slide a big scoop in and pull out big
>> chucks
>
> Well, you ought to tell Chuck to stay out of there.  The little chucks are
> bad enough without having Big Chucks.

Shucks, the N is just a key or so away from the K
 
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