Hello to all.
I have a few things I could use some help with.
First,
I have a 1990 Jayco 1206 tent camper and I finally got a ball mount with a
drop that was large enough to tow my trailer with my new Yukon. The problem
is that the capacities of the new ball mount are 3500 lbs and 350 lbs on the
tongue. How can I determine my tongue weight? Should I be concerned at
all? The camper weighs about 1700 lbs.
Next, can someone recommend anywhere I can get a repair kit for my canvas?
I don't need hole patch kits, I need something with a thread and needle? I
have some seams around the door that have come loose so that the canvas will
not stay tight in the door.
Also, where can I find a good 25' drinking water hose? All I've been able
to find at places like wal mart are 10' and I want something longer.
Thanks
Mark Jones - 11 Feb 2007 03:32 GMT
> Also, where can I find a good 25' drinking water hose? All I've
> been able to find at places like wal mart are 10' and I want
> something longer.
If you have an Ace Hardware nearby, you can get one there.
Chris Cowles - 11 Feb 2007 03:46 GMT
Use a bathroom scale and the principle of the lever:
http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/7West/TongueWeight.jpg
> How can I determine my tongue weight?
KidThrifty - 11 Feb 2007 04:20 GMT
Thanks!
I'll try this soon.
I was kind of figuring that a 1700 lb trailer shouldn't put more than 350
lbs on the tongue though.
I may be wrong but I guess I'll find out. I was surprised that there was no
info in the owners manuals.
> Use a bathroom scale and the principle of the lever:
>
> http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/7West/TongueWeight.jpg
>
>> How can I determine my tongue weight?
Calif Bill - 11 Feb 2007 04:46 GMT
> Thanks!
> I'll try this soon.
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>>
>>> How can I determine my tongue weight?
Put a bathroom scale under the tongue wheel. A 1700# trailer should have
about 170# on the tongue
AustinMN - 12 Feb 2007 14:41 GMT
> Put a bathroom scale under the tongue wheel. A 1700# trailer should have
> about 170# on the tongue- Hide quoted text -
A trailer should have 10%-15% of it's total actual weight (not weight
rating) on the tongue. If the trailer is loaded to 1700 lbs, it
should have _at_least_ 170 lbs. on the tongue, but not more than 255
lbs. Of course, if the trailer is empty or loaded lightly, those
numbers are lower. This is a good argument for getting the whole
combination weighed.
Austin
Jim Redelfs - 11 Feb 2007 05:36 GMT
> capacities of the new ball mount are 3500 lbs and 350 lbs on the
> tongue. How can I determine my tongue weight?
Chock the camper wheels sufficiently that the trailer will not move AT ALL.
Jack-up the tongue and, using a short length of 4x4 lumber, lower the tongue,
via the lumber, onto a common bathroom scale until the dolly wheel/post is
SLIGHTLY off the ground. This is, of course, assuming the weight will not
exceed the capacity of the scale. If there is any doubt in this regard, use
the lever & fulcrum method linked to by the OP.
> The camper weighs about 1700 lbs. Should I be concerned at all?
Probably not but it never hurts to be sure. The tongue weight should be at
least 10-12% of the total LOADED (ready for camping) weight. The greater the
proportion of tongue weight to total weight, the less likely the trailer will
tend to sway while being towed. This is a primary safety issue.
The next time you are loaded and ready to take off, allow time to go to a
certified scale (truck stop, grain elevator, etc) and weight the whole lash-up
then the tow vehicle separately to determine the trailer's real weight.
The weight claims by manufacturers and their glossy brochures are notoriously
inaccurate, often UNDERestimating the actual weight significantly. A trip to
a scale is invaluable.
> can someone recommend anywhere I can get a repair kit for my canvas?
> I don't need hole patch kits, I need something with a thread and needle?
> I have some seams around the door that have come loose so that the canvas
> will not stay tight in the door.
You would do well to consult a canvas repair business (tent and awning
company). They may be able to do a better repair for less money and hassle
than you'd think.
> Also, where can I find a good 25' drinking water hose? All I've been able
> to find at places like wal mart are 10' and I want something longer.
Mail/web ordering is your best bet for most things related to RVing.
<http://www.campingworld.com/browse/skus/index.cfm/Outdoor-and-RV-Accessories/M
aintaining-Your-RV/Freshwater-Systems/Water-Hoses/Water-Hose-25-ft/1/2-dia/skun
um=4520>
Good luck and have fun!

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2000 Skamper Ultra 249 TT
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Scout - 11 Feb 2007 11:17 GMT
I have a 1206K, the tongue weight is much closer to 200 pounds. You will be
fine.
Scout
> Hello to all.
> I have a few things I could use some help with.
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> able to find at places like wal mart are 10' and I want something longer.
> Thanks
asadi - 11 Feb 2007 20:00 GMT
"Archi1" <
> Next, can someone recommend anywhere I can get a repair kit for my
> canvas? I don't need hole patch kits, I need something with a thread and
> needle? I have some seams around the door that have come loose so that
> the canvas will not stay tight in the door.
get a leather awl at your local camp/backpack store...
john
Kegger - 11 Feb 2007 20:30 GMT
Take the canvas off and take it to a local awning company they can do
the job quickly and can use the correct thread so it won't leak at the
seam for you. I've had this done on many campers I've worked on and have
never regretted the extra effort.
> "Archi1" <
>
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>
> john
Karl & Angela - 18 Feb 2007 15:21 GMT
> I have a 1990 Jayco 1206 tent camper and I finally got a ball mount with a
> drop that was large enough to tow my trailer with my new Yukon. The
> problem is that the capacities of the new ball mount are 3500 lbs and 350
> lbs on the
> tongue. How can I determine my tongue weight? Should I be concerned at
> all? The camper weighs about 1700 lbs.
Sorry to get in on this late, been working on a message board I run for a
muzzleloaders club (http://www.epmuzzleloaders.com)
You can do what I did with the Allegiance. I took it to a local Coop and
they allowed me to weigh it three ways for free, YMMV.
I drove the whole rig onto the scale and weighed it packed to camp in, a
full tank of gas, myself and my father-in-law (instead of his daughter)
sitting in the truck. I figured his weight would be enough more than my
wife to approximate the addition of our young grandkids those times we took
them camping.
Then I drove forward until the back wheels of the Durango were off the scale
and they pushed the button again. Lastly took the hitch off the ball and
balanced it on a handy piece of 4X4 wood I had brought for the task.
The difference in the last two gave me the tongue weight. I was happy to
learn that we were *well* within the weight limits of everything, and the
tongue weight was about 11% of the trailer weight.
This only took about 15-20 minutes - I would recommend it to anyone who had
the least concern about the weights that they had. Personally, I was
pleasantly surprised by how much I had over-estimated the total weight of
the rig ready to camp in.

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