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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / May 2007

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Spring bar length?

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Bazwell - 14 May 2007 20:57 GMT
Hi everyone!

just got my popup, and i've bought a used WD kit for it. Now here's my
problem:

Seems the spring bars aren't long enough. if i keep them as they are,
i can't fix the clamps on the popup. I'm trying to find if it's
possible to replace only the bars, cause the other parts seems to be
fine.

On one end, it's a U bolt, that has the chains fixed, and on the
other, it's a T end, also bolted to the spring bar.

So is it possible to change only the bars? if so, does it cost more
that another entire kit?

thanks a lot for your help!!!
AustinMN - 14 May 2007 21:21 GMT
> Hi everyone!
>
> just got my popup, and i've bought a used WD kit for it. Now here's my
> problem:

To be able to help at all, we need the brand and model of both the
trailer and the WDH.

Austin
Bazwell - 14 May 2007 22:46 GMT
Here is the website for the bars:

http://www.eaz-lift.com/equalframes.html

got the welded one, model # 5508 ...

any clues?

thanks!
AustinMN - 15 May 2007 13:55 GMT
> Here is the website for the bars:
>
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>
> thanks!

That answers half my question...how about the brand and model of your
pop-up?

Austin
Bazwell - 15 May 2007 18:22 GMT
> > Here is the website for the bars:
>
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>
> Austin

tought i added this... anyways:

Rockwood 2516g 2007 ...
Jim Redelfs - 16 May 2007 00:40 GMT
> Rockwood 2516g 2007 ...

Here's the floorplan...

<http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/floorplanview.asp?name=8&page=rktc&series=Pre
mier>

I suggest you check with Forest River BEFORE you buy a weight-distributing
hitch.  Many popup makers do not allow the use of such a hitch.

It's likely, depending on the tow vehicle, that you wouldn't need such a
hitch, anyway.  Air shocks or bags to raise a modestly sagging back end on the
tow vehicle are usually sufficient.  Good luck!
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AustinMN - 16 May 2007 14:59 GMT
> In article <1179249753.907897.287...@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
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> <http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/floorplanview.asp?name=8&page=rktc&s...
> mier>

You put brackets around it, so why did Google Groups screw up this
link? :-(

Austin
Jim Redelfs - 17 May 2007 00:11 GMT
> You put brackets around it, so why did Google Groups
> screw up this link? :-(

Obviously, Jupiter and Mars were NOT in alignment.   <sigh>
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Chuck James - 18 May 2007 04:12 GMT
That is the exact same model I bought.  Towed with a 97 Tahoe, I have no
problems with it.

>> > Here is the website for the bars:
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> Rockwood 2516g 2007 ...
Bazwell - 18 May 2007 12:41 GMT
> That is the exact same model I bought.  Towed with a 97 Tahoe, I have no
> problems with it.

Problem is i can't put the clamps on the popup frame... they won't fit
without any modification. They're directly under the propane tanks, so
they wont lock in.... grrrrr
Steve Dawson - 19 May 2007 18:22 GMT
That seems to tell you that you don't need the WD hitch setup for this
trailer. Popups have a short tongue and low tongue weight. Like I said in
previous posts I haven't seen any popups with a WD hitch configuration and
I've been towing and camping for over 20 years.

Steve

>> That is the exact same model I bought.  Towed with a 97 Tahoe, I have no
>> problems with it.
>
> Problem is i can't put the clamps on the popup frame... they won't fit
> without any modification. They're directly under the propane tanks, so
> they wont lock in.... grrrrr
Jim Redelfs - 20 May 2007 06:36 GMT
> That seems to tell you that you don't need the WD hitch setup for this
> trailer. Popups have a short tongue and low tongue weight. Like I said in
> previous posts I haven't seen any popups with a WD hitch configuration and
> I've been towing and camping for over 20 years.

I believe that Reese still sells the "Mini 350" (or whatever it's called) for
Coleman - now Fleetwood - popup campers.  IIRC, that was the ONLY line of
trailers that I KNOW approved of a WD setup.

My (bought new) 1987 Starcraft Galaxy (their largest) specifically PROHIBITED
a weight-distributing hitch.  Such lightweight frames, although just fine for
a popup and its contents, aren't built "heavy" enough to handle the added
stresses of the "trailer's share" of the distributed weight from the hitch.  
Call it "BFS".  Bent Frame Syndrome.
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AustinMN - 21 May 2007 14:40 GMT
> That seems to tell you that you don't need the WD hitch setup for this
> trailer. Popups have a short tongue and low tongue weight. Like I said in
> previous posts I haven't seen any popups with a WD hitch configuration and
> I've been towing and camping for over 20 years.
>
> Steve

I use a Reese Mini-350 WDH with my pop-up.

But Bazwell's trailer is a Hybrid, I believe.  I've seen plenty of
hybrids with WDH's.  At some point, someone should ask what his tow
vehicle is.  Maybe he doesn't need a WDH.

Austin
Jim Redelfs - 22 May 2007 13:31 GMT
> But Bazwell's trailer is a Hybrid, I believe.

Oh, fie!  I must've missed that.   :\

> I've seen plenty of hybrids with WDH's.

Well, sure.   They're just travel trailers with a fold-out bunkend and one or
both ends.  As such, I expect them to be built on a frame capable of
accommodating all aspects of a WDH.

>  Maybe he doesn't need a WDH.

If his is a SMALL hybrid camping trailer, and he's towing it with a
1/2-ton-or-better pickup, I agree.  However, with a lesser-capable TV, I
recommend a weight-distributing lashup.  It wouldn't hurt in ANY case.

If his camper *IS* a non-WDH-rated popup, but he has already bought the WDH
setup, he can just store the spring bars and chain brackets until he needs
them on a larger trailer.  The popup will ride nicely on the WDH drawbar
head/ball - a "dead weight" hitch-up.
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Bazwell - 22 May 2007 13:59 GMT
> I use a Reese Mini-350 WDH with my pop-up.
>
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>
> Austin

sorry for the late reply.... my trailer is not a hybrid... simple
popup...

I've called the popup dealer, and even if in the rockwood manual it
says *not* to use a WD hitch, they've been installing some for about
14 years on popup.... don't know which info to trust... not putting
one, or putting it.

Went on the first trip this weekend, and fully loaded it dropped my
tow vehicle, but seems to have plenty of space left on the
suspension... i think i'll try 2-3 other trips before making my mind
on that....
Steve Dawson - 23 May 2007 12:57 GMT
Well, I think you have your answer. If the manufacturer says not to use a WD
hitch setup then I wouldn't use it no mater what the dealer is doing. Sounds
to me like he (the dealer) has found a way to make a few extra dollars by
selling something not needed. If fact if you bend your trailer frame or
cause some other problems the manufacturer may tell you sorry, no warrantee
coverage since you didn't follow our rules.

Steve

>> I use a Reese Mini-350 WDH with my pop-up.
>>
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> suspension... i think i'll try 2-3 other trips before making my mind
> on that....
Steve Dawson - 15 May 2007 02:19 GMT
Greetings,

What's the model of your popup and what is the tongue weight of it? I've
been towing trailers for over 20 years starting with a popup and haven't
seen many if any popups that needed a wd hitch. Also what is your tow
vehicle. Both the trailer and tow vehicle have a bearing on how the hitch is
set up. You should be able to talk to your dealer about this also. He has an
interest in making sure that you get set up right if only that he be able to
sell you more. If you bought from a private party you might try talking to
them about their experience towing this trailer and see what they say.

Steve

> Hi everyone!
>
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>
> thanks a lot for your help!!!
 
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