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Barb - 29 Apr 2004 01:13 GMT
Wondered what the max wind gusts are to safely have a pop up up. Ours is up in
the driveway, winds are gusting at up to 45 MPH. Does it take a lot more than
that to tip one over?

Barb-
Mom to Sparky the Wonder Dog (Rat Terrier) &
other furry critters.
jausti3@houston.rr.com - 29 Apr 2004 04:38 GMT
Barb,

We had ours up here in Houston in the driveway with winds up to 35 and it
was fine, and have no idea how high the winds have to be to tip it over. But
I'd worry if they were 45 or so.

Kathy in Houston
> Wondered what the max wind gusts are to safely have a pop up up. Ours is up in
> the driveway, winds are gusting at up to 45 MPH. Does it take a lot more than
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> Mom to Sparky the Wonder Dog (Rat Terrier) &
> other furry critters.
Karl Lindholm - 29 Apr 2004 12:32 GMT
Must be that time of year, ours is currently in the drive, after being
popped up for spring cleaning and inventory yesterday, and ready to join
the Redelfs for camping this weekend.  Angela was quite concerned about
how windy it was yesterday, and I had a little trouble with bulging
canvas as I put it down.

A few years ago, we were camping with the Redelfs in Memphis (Nebraska),
and the wind across the pond was so strong it bent the bunk end bow
(collapsing that end).  From then on I've paid more attention to which
windows were open in windy conditions, but I would guess that it would
take enough wind that if it was in danger of tipping over, you probably
wouldn't have gone out anyway.

Karl (glad to be back in the states)
Angela (glad to be going camping)
`02 Durango
`96 Taos

> Wondered what the max wind gusts are to safely have a pop up up. Ours is up in
> the driveway, winds are gusting at up to 45 MPH. Does it take a lot more than
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> Mom to Sparky the Wonder Dog (Rat Terrier) &
> other furry critters.
Jonathan Race - 29 Apr 2004 14:22 GMT
The first year we owned our Coleman Seapine (1998) we had it in St.
Augustine, FL with winds up to 40 mph.  The way the camper was pointed put
the winds hitting it from the end and not the sides and everything was OK.
The only problem, other than the noise, was it would not retain heat very
well with the wind and was very cold inside.

Cheers - Jonathan

> Wondered what the max wind gusts are to safely have a pop up up. Ours is up in
> the driveway, winds are gusting at up to 45 MPH. Does it take a lot more than
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> Mom to Sparky the Wonder Dog (Rat Terrier) &
> other furry critters.
carl@spamfree.ca - 29 Apr 2004 16:58 GMT
A couple years ago we were camped in Old Orchard ME when a huge
thunderstorm hit around 5pm. I've seen my share of bad storms but this
one I didn't like. Within 5 minutes it was raining so hard with moderate
winds, I could barely see across the street. Heavy rain, lightning,
hail, you-name-it. Then water started to accumulate on the ground, and
within another 5 minutes or so we couldn't see the lawn anywhere, we
felt like in the middle of a lake, the entire campground was under 4 to
6 inches of water. The the scary part came: the wind rapidly increased
to at least 60 to 70 mph, the rain was flying horizontally, just like
blowing snow. The howling wind was blowing across the popup, I was sure
it would tip over or the roof would fly off. I've never been in a
tornado but that's the first thing that came to our minds, wandering if
it was going to calm down or get worse. The sky was dark, lightning was
flashing, all sorts of debris were flying off all over, lawn chairs,
kid's toys, etc. This howling wind lasted probably less than a minute or
two, but it felt like an hour.
25 minute after it all started, the sun was shining, people were slowly
coming out of their RVs, everybody had to walk in the water to the end
of the "lake" to retrieve their stuff.
No damage to the popup, and not a drop of water inside (Coleman SantaFe).
I had my camcorder with me, so I have most of this storm and flash flood
on video, and it is still very impressive to watch.

Carl
99 Coleman Santa Fe
Jonathan Race - 29 Apr 2004 19:55 GMT
Not to minimize the scare you had or the severity of the storm that hit you,
but I have one personal observation to make, slightly tongue-in-cheek.

When a storm like the one you describe below hits almost anywhere in the US,
it's considered an emergency, and sometimes a disaster.

When a storm like the one you described hits Central Florida, it's
considered Tuesday.

On the other hand, when the temperature drops to 32F in the winter here in
Central Florida, it's considered an emergency, and sometimes a disaster.

When the temperature in winter gets up to 32F in the North, it's considered
a warming trend!

I guess it's all how you look at it.

Cheers - Jonathan

> A couple years ago we were camped in Old Orchard ME when a huge
> thunderstorm hit around 5pm. I've seen my share of bad storms but this
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> Carl
> 99 Coleman Santa Fe
Barb - 29 Apr 2004 22:32 GMT
<<
When the temperature in winter gets up to 32F in the North, it's considered
a warming trend!>>

LOL, in IL that is true and then it gets to 70 2 days later!

Barb-
Mom to Sparky the Wonder Dog (Rat Terrier) &
other furry critters.
carl@spamfree.ca - 30 Apr 2004 13:57 GMT
> I guess it's all how you look at it.

Of course there is always some worst weather somewhere else. No matter
what weather you talk about, there will always someone who will claim to
have seen warmer, colder, more rain, more wind, more snow, etc.

My point was it was a significant storm by any standard, and the popup
survived a pretty strong wind. I wasn't scared for myself, I was scared
the popup would fly off!

I wasn't trying to impress anybody with my storm. What was impressive
was that the popup survived it.

Carl
jausti3@houston.rr.com - 30 Apr 2004 14:06 GMT
> > I guess it's all how you look at it.
>
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>
> Carl

Carl,

Maybe that's why we see so many older popups still being used....they have
been able to survive storms like yours, heat, cold, rough roads, etc. Tough
little devils aren't they? Considering there really isn't all that much to
them!!!

Kathy and Joseph
Houston, TX
1987 Starcraft Starmaster
1994 Plymouth Voyager
Mod/Trip Pics: http://photos.yahoo.com/jausti3
mac davis - 30 Apr 2004 15:25 GMT
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>Carl,
>
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>1994 Plymouth Voyager
>Mod/Trip Pics: http://photos.yahoo.com/jausti3

Could be the old "willows bend and oaks fall" thing.. *g*

Mac
beally@nospam.satx.rr.com - 06 May 2004 18:01 GMT
Hi Folks, I have a 2003 Coleman Sun Valley Pop up trailer. I took it
out last week for the 1st time and couldn't get the Hot Water heater
to work. There isn't much info in the manual they provided. I hooked
the water hose to the city water, so water was not a problem. I then
lit the pilot light on the hot water heater and turned it on. The
flame roared for a few seconds. The water inside never got hot, so I
am confused. Any help will be appreciated.

Rodger
BillMc - 09 May 2004 20:48 GMT
A few years ago, on Easter weekend, we wetn thru 100 mph straight winds or
an F1 torando. Let me tell you, we have never been the same in the pop-up
when the wind picks up. No one hurt,just wet and scared. The dog that was
with us even gets nervous.
BillMc
Rockett Crawford - 11 May 2004 23:59 GMT
> Hi Folks, I have a 2003 Coleman Sun Valley Pop up trailer. I took it
> out last week for the 1st time and couldn't get the Hot Water heater
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>
> Rodger

Rodger, is there any chance that the water
heater hoses have been by-passed for winterization?

When a camper is winterized, they take
the in and out hoses off of the water heater
and connect them together with a short hose
that just lets the water flow back into the camper
unheated.

Without doing this bypass for winter storage,
they'd have to fill the water heater with 6 or
so extra gallons of anti-freeze for no reason.

Rockett Crawford
xpodx - 30 Apr 2004 05:17 GMT
That is one video I'd like to see! Glad you and yours survived unscathed.

Signature

FSKarasek - KF6HQC
1998 Ford f-150
1998 Chalet Alpine
1994 used two man tent (retired! LOL)
kf6hqc@arrl.net

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> A couple years ago we were camped in Old Orchard ME when a huge
> thunderstorm hit around 5pm. I've seen my share of bad storms but this
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> Carl
> 99 Coleman Santa Fe
the old anarchist - 01 May 2004 13:31 GMT
just camp out in the midwest for a 'personal' experience during the spring.
it'll happen.

most of the time, the canopy falls down before anything else. and for the
tornadoes, you hear them first.

the old anarchist

> That is one video I'd like to see! Glad you and yours survived unscathed.
>
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> > Carl
> > 99 Coleman Santa Fe
bigbarnusa - 19 Aug 2006 07:37 GMT
Do you still have your 1998 Coleman Seapine.  I just bought one and it didn't
come with the manual.  I will pay for a copy of it if you are willing.
Thanks, D.

>The first year we owned our Coleman Seapine (1998) we had it in St.
>Augustine, FL with winds up to 40 mph.  The way the camper was pointed put
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>> Mom to Sparky the Wonder Dog (Rat Terrier) &
>> other furry critters.
mac davis - 29 Apr 2004 15:26 GMT
>Wondered what the max wind gusts are to safely have a pop up up. Ours is up in
>the driveway, winds are gusting at up to 45 MPH. Does it take a lot more than
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>Mom to Sparky the Wonder Dog (Rat Terrier) &
>other furry critters.

Barb.. I think I'd worry more about stress on the fabric and alignment
of the roof/box than I would about it tipping over...
I've been in some CG's that everyone was advised to leave because of
high wind gusts and I've never seen a popup blow over... as a matter
of fact, one family's 2 room tent blew away from them and our lil'
tent trailer stopped it from going to see Dorothy.. *g*

Mac
Annette & LJ Dumas - 29 Apr 2004 16:42 GMT
I agree with Mac, the fabric will  tear and supports will bend  before the
unit flips.

My philosophy is 'when in doubt, drop it!'

Regards,

LJD

> >Wondered what the max wind gusts are to safely have a pop up up. Ours is up in
> >the driveway, winds are gusting at up to 45 MPH. Does it take a lot more than
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> Mac
Jim Redelfs - 03 May 2004 04:25 GMT
> Wondered what the max wind gusts are to safely have a pop up up. Ours is up in
> the driveway, winds are gusting at up to 45 MPH. Does it take a lot more than
> that to tip one over?

I am confident that the "superstructure" (lifter arms, bunk end "bows" and
fabric) would fail before the unit would actually overturn.

I suspect that 45 MPH is getting close to causing damage.

I always used to worry when storms would approach while my popup was set up in
the driveway.  That is, until I realized that it would be a MUCH better thing
to happen in my driveway - IF it was going to happen at all - with me and my
family safely ensconced in our home instead of INSIDE the camper.

Don't worry, be happy!  And hope you remembered to pay the insurance premium!

           :)
JR
Barb - 03 May 2004 12:49 GMT
<<I am confident that the "superstructure" (lifter arms, bunk end "bows" and
fabric) would fail before the unit would actually overturn.

I suspect that 45 MPH is getting close to causing damage.>>

That's a good point. I popped it down to be safe, then later that night it was
so nice out! Grrrr

Barb-
Mom to Sparky the Wonder Dog (Rat Terrier) &
other furry critters.
lfm - 09 May 2004 03:45 GMT
We have had winds much more than that - the So Cal deserts can be extremely
windy! A couple of years ago we camped in *extremely* high winds - the gusts
were 80+ MPH. Tents collapsed all around us, but the Popup was unscathed -
our nerves have not yet recovered, but the popup was fine. All night long
the wind was picking up the awning bag and dropping it back down. THUNK! My
son thought the roof was swaying about 4 inches each direction.

Laura
> Wondered what the max wind gusts are to safely have a pop up up. Ours is up in
> the driveway, winds are gusting at up to 45 MPH. Does it take a lot more than
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> Mom to Sparky the Wonder Dog (Rat Terrier) &
> other furry critters.
 
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