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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / January 2005Bye Bye Newsgroups-AOL
Did any of you AOL users get a message that they are discontinuing newsgroups? How do you non-AOL readers access these newsgroups? I signed up for Usenet, but is it free somewhere. RRon S ghofnospam@aol.com Use a newsreader, such as Thunderbird, Outlook Express. Much better than Web based access. > Did any of you AOL users get a message that they are discontinuing > newsgroups? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > RRon S > ghofnospam@aol.com >Use a newsreader, such as Thunderbird, Outlook Express. >Much better than Web based access. snip Use Thunderbird not Outhouse. It make you look like a newby with the top posting.  SignatureA: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Try Free Agent. http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php After 30 days either buy it oyr it reverts to FREE Agent. I used Free Agent for a couple years and really liked it. Short but not difficult learning curve. > Use a newsreader, such as Thunderbird, Outlook Express. > Much better than Web based access. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> RRon S >> ghofnospam@aol.com > >> Did any of you AOL users get a message that they are discontinuing > >> newsgroups? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >> RRon S > >> ghofnospam@aol.com I think you'll find many different ways to read NG's. If you have a cable connection, just open Outlook Express and search for NG's. I tried others, but they were very complicated or cost me money. If you have a phone line, take AOL's advice and try Google. There will be a small learning curve, but nothing that can't be overcome. I haven't found a Newsreader I liked as well as AOL, but Outlook Express isn't too bad. As a matter of fact, it has a few things better and a few things worse than AOL. Now, call AOL and complain, I did. Hank <~~~getting ready to dump AOL Try Google..they have upgraded their newsreader service recently..have never used AOL groups >Did any of you AOL users get a message that they are discontinuing newsgroups? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >RRon S >ghofnospam@aol.com http://news.individual.net/ SignatureFrank Tabor You need to have a news server and AOL should provide that. Get the info and then just set up one of the news programs mentioned in this thread. SignatureJim Walker Northern Virginia > Did any of you AOL users get a message that they are discontinuing > newsgroups? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > RRon S > ghofnospam@aol.com > You need to have a news server and AOL should provide that. Get the info > and then just set up one of the news programs mentioned in this thread. Uhh, Jim - the geniuses [genii?] at AOL have decided to no longer offer Usenet News Groups. That's why the AOL users are exploring alternatives: AOL *will not have* any news servers in the *very* near future. >> You need to have a news server and AOL should provide that. Get the >> info and then just set up one of the news programs mentioned in this [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > That's why the AOL users are exploring alternatives: AOL *will not > have* any news servers in the *very* near future. There are a couple good paid ones (i've heard giganews and supernews are good), and a free one (free one, german news server at news.individual.net login and apply for a free acount), and a free web based newserver (google) Biggest problem I hear is that some of the newsreaders people want to use on their pc's, require an smtp mail server, and aol isn't one.. However, it's a peice of cake to get a free email account at say hotmail, and then use that as a mail server for forwarding and replying to news messages. If you apply for an account (free) from the german news server, get the email address FIRST, and use that when you fill out the form for a free account.. From another NG (rec.outdoors.rv-travel, huge thread there about "Regarding AOL and USENET", with a lot of suggestions and answers) For example, there where some people that wanted to use the forte newsreader, and had to do something special to trick it into ignoring that there was no smtp server.... I'm not sure why Agent needs a smtp server even if not sending via email, but there is a faq about using Agent with AOL email- http://forteinc.com/agent/faq.php#565EDAB5B88624C585256CDE005A24C3 >>> You need to have a news server and AOL should provide that. Get the >>> info and then just set up one of the news programs mentioned in this [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >but there is a faq about using Agent with AOL email- >http://forteinc.com/agent/faq.php#565EDAB5B88624C585256CDE005A24C3 I think if you go back over and read the message from Chris Bryant you'll see that all he had to do was add "localhost" to the smtp server block. Of course you can use it to send mail less you use the proxy mentioned above. But I think most won't need to use mail from Agent. I may only use it once a month. SignatureFrank Tabor >Biggest problem I hear is that some of the newsreaders people want to use on >their pc's, require an smtp mail server, and aol isn't one.. However, it's a >peice of cake to get a free email account at say hotmail, and then use that >as a mail server for forwarding and replying to news messages. I use AOL and wasn't thrilled to see they are dumping the newsgroups. When I found out I tried a few different free ones and settled on Forte Agent (not the free one, the 30.00 one). It's wonderful, I wish I had switched years ago. I did not need an email address.... in the email address place, under SMTP I put in localhost and that did the trick. I will not use Agent for my email, will just read it on AOL. Hunter I wonder is AOL dropping their prices after dropping the newsgroups? Less product should mean a drop in price or at least I thought so and that was the reason I dropped my cable company. What amazes me is people who will continue to stay with the companies and then go out and pay additional fees to other companies to get the dropped products they had prior with their other company. Somehow I just do not understand it but I guess it makes sense to others, just my observation and not intended to offend anyone. Lee > I wonder is AOL dropping their prices after dropping the > newsgroups? Less product should mean a drop in price [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Lee I complained to AOL and asked for a discount since I am not receiving all the "features" that were offered when i signed up. I haven't heard back and probbaly won't hear. I will dump AOL if I can get my wife to agree. She is still under the impression that it is ok. It will be a hard fought battle, wish me luck! >I complained to AOL and asked for a discount since I am not receiving all >the "features" that were offered when i signed up. I haven't heard back and >probbaly won't hear. I will dump AOL if I can get my wife to agree. She is >still under the impression that it is ok. It will be a hard fought battle, >wish me luck! > Hi Hank Heck just tell her you can't connect to AOL anymore and you don't understand why but are going to get another provider just as good, or explain to her that you pay the bills and you don't want to give your money away to AOL anymore, but be ready to duck and run. I am lucky my wife wants nothing to do with the computer at all. I did the same thing with COMCAST and got negative results both with them as a provider for Internet and my Cable TV Service and it did no good, so I said adios to them and moved on. Saved me a lot of frustration. Fact is my Bell South DSL was cheaper than my cable. The new land line service are a lot better with the accelerator service most of them offer now a days. Netscape offers theirs for $9.95 I think or at least remember from TV. The women seem to like that chat thing on AOL. Or is there another reason? Lee > Hi Hank > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Lee She does a lot of Birds and Bloom type sh.t. Also E-bay and Geneology. Anyway, she is old and don't like change. I will fight and defend us against this AOL sh.t as long as possible. :-) Hank<~~~~~may need bail money > I will dump AOL if I can get my wife to agree. She is >>still under the impression that it is ok. It will be a hard fought battle, >>wish me luck! If she likes it why take it away from her? Hunter > > I will dump AOL if I can get my wife to agree. She is > >>still under the impression that it is ok. It will be a hard fought battle, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hunter Hunter, Hunter, Hunter, you poor, poor man. It's a control thingy. Us men have to control our women, so therefore, whatever I say must go! :-) Hank <~~~talks the talk >Hunter, Hunter, Hunter, you poor, poor man. It's a control thingy. Us men >have to control our women, so therefore, whatever I say must go! :-) > >Hank <~~~talks the talk Hi Hank, Um, I'm not a man.... I'm a woman (c: Talking the talk doesn't work for me because I know even if you talk the talk and no one hears.... you're still wrong. <g> Hunter > >Hunter, Hunter, Hunter, you poor, poor man. It's a control thingy. Us men > >have to control our women, so therefore, whatever I say must go! :-) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Hunter Ah, sh.t! I guess I am in big trouble now. Me being the sexist pig that I am, I knew we wouldn't get along very well. :-) Hank <~~~can't win >Ah, sh.t! I guess I am in big trouble now. Me being the sexist pig that I >am, I knew we wouldn't get along very well. :-) > >Hank <~~~can't win hahaha! Just let her keep AOL. You know how it is, if mama ain't happy ani't nobody happy.... Hunter >Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:42:25 GMT, "Hank" <ninebal310@aol.com> wrote: >> >Hunter, Hunter, Hunter, you poor, poor man. It's a control thingy. Us men >> >have to control our women, so therefore, whatever I say must go! :-) >Ah, sh.t! I guess I am in big trouble now. Fer sure! >>> I will dump AOL if I can get my wife to agree. She is >>>> still under the impression that it is ok. It will be a hard fought [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Hank <~~~talks the talk Uh oh dude.. you are in trouble now... Hunter is a female.....:) DELETE asked: > I wonder is AOL dropping their prices after dropping the >newsgroups? AOL drop prices? On anything? Ever? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha. Hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho hohohohohohohohoho. Heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee heeheeheeheeheeheeheehee. Will To respond, remove shorts >AOL drop prices? On anything? Ever? Actually, my AOL went from 23.95 to 14.95 a month with absolutely no loss of services...until this newsgroup crap. Hunter >> AOL drop prices? On anything? Ever? > > Actually, my AOL went from 23.95 to 14.95 a month with absolutely no > loss of services...until this newsgroup crap. > > Hunter Don't you have cable? They make deals on pricing if you have them. When I was with RR, my Earthlink went from $21.95 a month to free. >Don't you have cable? They make deals on pricing if you have them. When I >was with RR, my Earthlink went from $21.95 a month to free. I am on the *full* AOL...... not on AOL for Broadband...... Hunter >> Don't you have cable? They make deals on pricing if you have them. >> When I was with RR, my Earthlink went from $21.95 a month to free. > > I am on the *full* AOL...... not on AOL for Broadband...... > > Hunter You may want to check the local RR website then. In SC there were 5 different ISP's that were free (for regular and dial-up service). >You may want to check the local RR website then. In SC there were 5 >different ISP's that were free (for regular and dial-up service). Why would I? I don't want free, I want AOL. I am happy with AOL. Hunter >> You may want to check the local RR website then. In SC there were 5 >> different ISP's that were free (for regular and dial-up service). > > Why would I? I don't want free, I want AOL. I am happy with AOL. > > Hunter Cuz one of the five at that time WAS free AOL, another was Earthlink, that's how I got free Earthlink (I paid before RR, was free while I was with RR The bill came with a credit from RR every month, balance due $0, and now I'm back paying again) There where three others at the time, I don't recall what they were They may still be listed under member services.. was supposed to encourage new members, but current users got a credit every month that they were with RR. I'm not suggesting you CHANGE anything, just check to see if you can get a free credit on your AOL bill, for having the cable thing. >I'm not suggesting you CHANGE anything, just check to see if you can get a >free credit on your AOL bill, for having the cable thing. I did that once, but then I got a huge bill when I used dial up when I was away from the cable....and my computer was on the blink. I couldn't use the cell phone with my old back up laptop..... that's remedied now. So, I got the 14.95 with full service so I never have to worry about minutes. I had to sign up for it for a year. I've had AOL for many years and I know all the choices and pricing plans.... I have the one I want. Hunter > >I'm not suggesting you CHANGE anything, just check to see if you can get a > >free credit on your AOL bill, for having the cable thing. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Hunter Since I am new to this NG, I can see we are going to have problems. :-) I too have been with AOL for many years. I like AOL, contrary to what all the computer gurus's say. But, AOL has a problem with NG's. Why is that? For years there wasn't any problem. Now all of a sudden there is. I guess if they can't fix it, they just do away with it. Oh well! Anyway, back to my rant, I lost cable (roadrunner) for about a week from an ice storm. So I went online via the phone line. I got a separate bill from AOL for the phone line usage. I called them and they gladly credited my account. You could probably do the same. At least try! By the way, are you still posting to NG's from AOL? Hank >By the way, are you still posting to NG's from AOL? Answered in my previous post. Hunter > >AOL drop prices? On anything? Ever? > > Actually, my AOL went from 23.95 to 14.95 a month with absolutely no > loss of services...until this newsgroup crap. > > Hunter Was it because you went to a Cable connection? Hank >Was it because you went to a Cable connection? > >Hank Nope, you have very limited dial up hours when you go to their broadband package. I live in my camper fulltime and sometimes need lots of landline hours. It was a brief window of opportunity that I heard about and jumped on. I did have to agree to another year of service. When the whole uproar started about AOL dropping the groups I tired a bunch of different readers and I'm crazy about Agent. The way I see it AOL did me a favor. I have lots of web pages on AOL and it's been my email address forever (9 years I think) So there's no chance I'll be switching. I have gotten pissed at them in the past and switched to earthlink, but I always go back to AOL. Hunter >>Was it because you went to a Cable connection? >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Hunter Hi Hunter, I find it interesting that, while I occasionally disagree with you, your posts are informative and friendy (normally). I also notice that there exists an air of friendly banter between you and others. It is too bad the same cannot be said of jenny. She seems to exist to be the contrarian. Unk > Hi Hunter, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Unk She (usually) stays out of discussions on politics/religion/and sex... That's about all that jenny talks about..... >> I find it interesting that, while I occasionally disagree with you, >> your posts are informative and friendy (normally). I also notice that >> there exists an air of friendly banter between you and others. Thanks, I don't usually walk into a room looking for a fight. I think of *most* of the people on the RV groups as friends I've not yet met. I have met some of course and haven't been disappointed. Hunter > I wonder is AOL dropping their prices after dropping the > newsgroups? Less product should mean a drop in price [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Lee Sorry.. it's AOL.. Seems there battle cry is "Less Service and more fees!".... Too be fair, and not to just pick on AOL, Netzero used to be free ($0 a month, hence netzero), now it's at least $9.95 a month....Access 4 Free <---- used to be free...... but is now $4.95 Guess everybody is jumping on the less for more bandwagon.... :) |
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