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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / April 2005

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Geoff - 16 Feb 2005 19:26 GMT
I have not been able to buy an inexpensive camera. Would a wireless security
camera work ok?
Thanks,
Geoff.
Steve - 16 Feb 2005 22:36 GMT
Yes.  I mounted both X10 Color wide-eye and low light  wireless cameras to
the rear of our RV.  Ran a short lead in to a 12V source inside the cabinet
above the rear window.  The wireless receiver is velcroed up by the dog
house and plugs into the cig lighter outlet.  The big trick is to find a
small 12Vdc TV with a reverse (left-right) switch and RCA inputs.  There are
a few out there, even some LCDs, just search around.

> I have not been able to buy an inexpensive camera. Would a wireless security
> camera work ok?
> Thanks,
> Geoff.
Geoff - 17 Feb 2005 17:04 GMT
> Yes.  I mounted both X10 Color wide-eye and low light  wireless cameras to
> the rear of our RV.  Ran a short lead in to a 12V source inside the
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>>
> ========
Thanks a lot Steve for your imput.
Geoff.
JEB - 17 Feb 2005 18:53 GMT
> Yes.  I mounted both X10 Color wide-eye and low light  wireless cameras to
> the rear of our RV.  Ran a short lead in to a 12V source inside the cabinet
> above the rear window.  The wireless receiver is velcroed up by the dog
> house and plugs into the cig lighter outlet.  The big trick is to find a
> small 12Vdc TV with a reverse (left-right) switch and RCA inputs.  There are
> a few out there, even some LCDs, just search around.

Can't you just hook the wires up backwards?  Or, better yet, mount the
camera backwards...
Peter Pan - 17 Feb 2005 19:33 GMT
>> Yes.  I mounted both X10 Color wide-eye and low light  wireless
>> cameras to the rear of our RV.  Ran a short lead in to a 12V source
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> Can't you just hook the wires up backwards?  Or, better yet, mount the
> camera backwards...

I mounted the TV on the motor cover, and a Mirror (actually aluminzed mylar
reflector) on the dash. The monitor was firmly attached/out of the way, but
I could see (in reverse when you use a mirror) to back up, a dual plus was,
that since the driver couldn't see the monitor directly (only in the mirror
reflection), I got out of a ticket for having a monitor where the driver
could see it :), and when stopped, could rotate the TV to the passenger
area.
CruzMastr - 18 Feb 2005 13:48 GMT
This is not a plug because I haven't done business with the vendor. I ran
across a company clled Super Circuits (http://www.supercircuits.com) that
has an automotive microvideo system (5.5" monitor) for $99.95 and a RV &
truck system (7" monitor) for $199.95. These are not color but the RV system
includes dual camera inputs and audio. They're cheaper than things I've seen
at CW and other RV places.

CruzMastr

> I have not been able to buy an inexpensive camera. Would a wireless security
> camera work ok?
> Thanks,
> Geoff.
Michaelinlv - 01 Mar 2005 13:38 GMT
The few wireless cameras i've seen just don't appear to work very well.  You
still have to run 12VDC to the camera so it's just as easy to run the cable
for a regular camera system.

Michael
Master Mobile RV Service Las Vegas Nevada
702-499-1016
Mastermobileservice@cox.net
>I have not been able to buy an inexpensive camera. Would a wireless
>security camera work ok?
> Thanks,
> Geoff.
Jim - 01 Mar 2005 17:22 GMT
For wired camera systems at pretty good prices with _excellent_ service
and post-sales support, try www.rvcams.com.  No business interest in the
company, just a _real_ happy customer.  My color day / IR night system
cost me $335.

I tried a cheaper X-10 based system first.  The picture wasn't good,
and it didn't last.  As always, YMMV.

I figure that the cost of a back-up cam is more than offset  by the
first backing accident you didn't have.... it's just hard to tell when
that was... or wasn't...;-)

Jim, "If you drink, don't park; accidents cause people."

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tat-2 - 03 Apr 2005 05:56 GMT
I was going to try a web cam and a noteboook.....

Not quit sure of the switching left and right though, maybe I'm missing
something.

Ed

>I have not been able to buy an inexpensive camera. Would a wireless
>security camera work ok?
> Thanks,
> Geoff.
Your name - 06 Apr 2005 04:39 GMT
> I was going to try a web cam and a noteboook.....
>
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>> Thanks,
>> Geoff.

Just found an excellent little video camera at Sam's Club tonight.  They
had a whole pallet of them, $39.99 each.  I bought two:  one for a backup
camera, one for a front door surveillance for my daughter's apartment.

It comes with an attached 100 ft. cable which has male RCA plugs for the
video and audio inputs to a TV.  There is a third female RCA connector
which connects to the included 12V DC wall transformer.  One could omit
the transformer and connect it directly to any 12V DC source.

Picture is full color in even moderate light.  In the dimmest ambient
light, it gives a decent mono picture -- while watching on a monitor, the
camera picture always looked much brighter than it did to the naked eye.

Resolution is good; not as sharp as a good cam-corder, of course, but
better than most webcams.  Lens is moderately wide-field, but not a fish-
eye.  It seems about right for both close work and also large area
monitoring.  The lens is manually focused by screwing it in or out and
the depth of field was fine.  There are no other controls or adjustments
of any kind.

For night use, there are eight embedded infrared LEDs surrounding the
lens.  Although they only appear as a dim ruby red when looking at them,  
they light the field brightly when viewed on the monitor.  At distances
less than about three or four feet, their glare overwhelms the camera.    
If intended for close-ups, one would need to cover some, or all, of the
LEDs to dim their output.  (There is no way to just turn them off.)  At
about six feet or more, they light up the center of the field like a spot
light.

The camera incorporates a microphone, intended for monitor/surveillance
purposes.  There is no speaker for having a two-way conversation.

The camera is in a metal case about 1.5 inches square, and about 1 inch
thick, including the lens.  It is mounted by means of a ball joint swivel
to a base with pre-drilled holes for mounting it.  This adds another inch
or so to the height.  It is small and light enough that Velcro would
probably hold it in place if you didn't want to use screws.

The package insert warns that the case is not dust or waterproof, so one
would have to provide a good, tight enclosure if used outside.
Your name - 06 Apr 2005 05:32 GMT
>> I was going to try a web cam and a noteboook.....
>>
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> The package insert warns that the case is not dust or waterproof, so
> one would have to provide a good, tight enclosure if used outside.

BTW, here it is on Sam's web site:

http://www.samsclub.com/eclub/main_shopping.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&n=0
&mt=a&coe=0&oidPath=0:-23542:-23589:-24294:-34202:890028

And, it's half a buck cheaper than I remembered!

BTW, don't trust the web page on availability at a particular store -- it
said that my local store didn't have them.

(Can you tell that I'm really psyched about finding these?)
 
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