Our dual 12v. batteries don't seem to last very long when boondocking.
Sometimes, only overnight. When we leave, they are fully charged, after
being on house current for a good while. We have a Newmar, and it has a top
of the line charge system that turns off and on by sensing the current in
the batteries. No chance of overcharging. When we are boondocking, as this
week, we run the generator for hours sometimes, and that should put some
back into them. We also have one of those little solar cigarette plug in
charging panel.
Yesterday, I went out and looked at the batteries. They both had corrosion
pretty good on the positive cables. I disassembled, cleaned, gooped, and
reassembled. I also added just a bit of distilled water, as they were down
about 1/4". These are two pretty good deep cycle marine batteries, and are
about 2 years old. I haven't done the hygrometer thing yet, or any other
electrical testing.
How would I go about checking this out to see how much I am drawing when
boondocked? At night, we don't use the lights, or the furnace fan. The
only things going are the detectors, and whatever other miniscule electrical
devices that are automatically on at that time. The fridge is on propane.
Maybe I have solved the problem with the cleaning, but would like to check
it further, as this has always been a problem. Could I go to batteries with
higher amp hours? These came with the motorhome, and should be of the
proper size.
Steve
RichA - 23 Mar 2005 17:35 GMT
>Our dual 12v. batteries don't seem to last very long when boondocking.
>Sometimes, only overnight. When we leave, they are fully charged, after
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>Steve
Hi,
Could be several things. Your problem could very well have been poor
connections at the battery terminals. Some other things it could be.
You don't say what type of charging system you have or if you have an
inverter or converter. Just about all the charging systems turn off
and on by sensing the battery state. Or what size batteries you
have. You should get a hydrometer and check the batteries to make
sure they are ok. Also if you have a Xantex/Heart Interface
controller and inverter/charger make sure the controller it is on
charge when you run the generator that way the batteries will get a
full charge or at least be brought up to 85-90 percent. If you have
just a converter it could be that causing the problem if it's one of
the older non electronic types. They don't put out a very large
charging current.
To check your draw while boondocking you will need to get an amp
meter and install it so it can read the current being drawn from the
batteries. An Amp meter with a shunt is what is usually used. There
are clamp on meters too that just go around the wire but they are
pretty expensive. A good multi meter will work for smaller loads.
You need to check the meter to see what the max Amp load is. You have
to be careful because the batteries could easily put out more current
then the multi meter can handle. If you are looking for small
parasitic loads the multi meter would work.
If you plan on doing a lot of boondocking larger sized batteries are
a good idea. Two six volt golf cart batteries will give you around
220 amps. Four wired series parallel would give you 440 amps.
If you don't have the room for the golf cart batteries then two Series
31 deep discharge 12V batteries will give you around 260 amps (Trojan)
Three would give you 390 amps. The golf cart batteries are around $50
each. The deep discharge 12V are probably close to double that,
though I haven't checked lately.
Take care and Happy Campin...
RichA
"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
SteveB - 24 Mar 2005 01:35 GMT
>>Our dual 12v. batteries don't seem to last very long when boondocking.
>>Sometimes, only overnight. When we leave, they are fully charged, after
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> RichA
> "We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
Thanks for the info. Today, while doing about a dozen little things on the
MH, I discovered that our guest had left on the basement light when he put
the trash in the basement trash container.
I guess that could possibly have caused our drain. ;-) But I am going to
check my batteries with the numbers you quoted, and probably upgrade. I
know these are at LEAST two years old, maybe more. I just had so many
little things to do that I didn't go deep on the batteries.
Steve
Jim Redelfs - 24 Mar 2005 00:08 GMT
> Our dual 12v. batteries don't seem to last very long when boondocking.
> These came with the motorhome, and should be of the proper size.
That is the LAST assumption I would make of original, "factory" batteries. In
fact, I'll bet they're the smallest, cheapest batteries Newmar could find.
I wouldn't hold this "fact" (if true) against Newmar, however. Most, if not
all, high-end motorhome manufacturers assume that most of their rigs will
NEVER rely solely on batteries. Given that virtually all such motorhomes have
a generator and most buyers wouldn't be caught DEAD without an electric
hookup, the motorhome manufacturer provides JUST enough battery capacity to
operate the slides and jacks a couple of times without generator or shore
power assistance.
If you're serious about boondocking WITHOUT having to frequently run the
genset, you should replace the stock batteries with higher capacity ones. The
OP made excellent suggestions as to quantity and type/size.
BTW - a little dashboard solar charger provides so little power as to be
almost useless. Such devices are generally used to MAINTAIN a charge while
the rig is in storage. It would take such a small solar panel a month of
Sundays to "bring up" a battery from a discharged state.
Good luck!
:)
JR