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Class C motorhome vs Fifth wheel

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PCE - 28 Mar 2005 20:19 GMT
Looking for any feedback from anyone owning one of these and who has put
some thought in owning the other or anyone who has owned both.

We have 2 children aged 6 and 8.

The biggest plus for the motorhome is long distance travel for the kids, can
sit back and watch videos, snooze comfortably and the driving is probably
easier. Biggest downside is no travel vehicle when we get to the campsite.
(dont plan on towing a small vehicle behind).

Biggest plus for Fifth wheel is I get to use the truck when I'm not camping
so I dont need to buy a motorhome and a commute vehicle.

Any thoughts, experience or feedback of any type is appreciated. It can all
help me in my decision.

Peter
Greg Surratt - 28 Mar 2005 22:45 GMT
>Looking for any feedback from anyone owning one of these and who has put
>some thought in owning the other or anyone who has owned both.
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>
>Peter

Sounds like you've answered your own question.  

If it's all about getting there and getting back, then the motorhome
without the toad is the way to go.  

If it's about sightseeing at the destination, then the fiver is the
answer.  Get a truck with a DVD player for the back seat to amuse the
kids.

If you need the best of both worlds, then you probably need to
reconsider the question of a toad.

FWIW, Dodge has announced a new four door truck with room in the
backseat area for the seats to recline so the kids can snooze.

Greg
Jim Redelfs - 28 Mar 2005 22:54 GMT
> Looking for any feedback from anyone owning one of these and who has put
> some thought in owning the other or anyone who has owned both.

I have come "full circle" in my view of a motorhome.

I used to consider it a WASTE of a good powertrain, DOT safety stuff, blah,
blah, to have it (a motorhome) just SIT for most of the time.

I am now planning to eventually convert to a motorhome.

A large trailer (FW or TT) requires a large (read: gas guzzler) tow vehicle.  
Once setup at camp, this fire-breathing pickup is your "daily driver".

I like the idea of towing a SMALL (fuel efficient) car behind the motorhome
for use when the motorhome is parked.

I am currently paying THROUGH THE NOSE for a big, stump-pullin', gas guzzlin'
pickup to OCCASIONALLY tow my camping trailer.  Otherwise, it is my commuter
vehicle.  Fortunately, the drive to work is a mere four miles.

I would not, however, use a motorhome WITHOUT a "toad" (towed vehicle) to use
use when camped - or not camping.

          :)
JR
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RAM^3 - 28 Mar 2005 23:05 GMT
> Looking for any feedback from anyone owning one of these and who has put
> some thought in owning the other or anyone who has owned both.
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>
> Peter

A lot depends upon HOW you plan to spend your time: traveling or staying
put.

If your prime interest is traveling - on the road most of the time (going
place-to-place, visiting "attractions", etc.) and rarely more than 1-2
nights in any one location - the "C" has the distinct advantage that all of
its amenities are right with you where you can use them immediately. Another
advantage is the ability to tow a trailer (boat, "utility trailer", ATVs,
cycles (motor or pedal), or, even, a TT or popup) or a vehicle too small to
"travel" in but great for "sightseeing" and/or "exploring".

If you prefer to set up a "base camp" and "explore" the surrounding area for
a week or more then the towable has the advantage in that it can carry more
amenities. Unfortunately, you have to find a parking spot before you can use
them.

We have a small [37'] fifth-wheel that we tow with a dinky little Dodge
Diesel Dually. We tend to stay in one spot for a month or 3, then travel to
a new destination.

We've recently discussed acquiring either a "B" or a "C" as a "Tripmobile"
to use for relatively short [2-4 days] trips rather than to tow our home
around with us. The "Tripmobile" would simplify trips to urban areas since
we'd be "urban flatspotting" rather than looking for "campgrounds".

The "Tripmobile" would stay at our house when we're out touring with our
home.
HD in NY - 29 Mar 2005 00:00 GMT
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> The "Tripmobile" would stay at our house when we're out touring with our
> home.

Friends picked up a nice '90 Born Free. Former owner had
painted it, trim and all, a nasty shade of blue. Dealer
called it the "Blue Goose". They got it for $8,000. Six
brand new tires, generator worked good, all appliances
including a/c worked good and the inside looked real nice.
HD in FL for 1 nite
RAM^3 - 29 Mar 2005 03:48 GMT
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>> The "Tripmobile" would stay at our house when we're out touring with our
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> appliances including a/c worked good and the inside looked real nice.
> HD in FL for 1 nite

We wouldn't mind lucking into one like that!
HD in NY - 29 Mar 2005 04:33 GMT
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> We wouldn't mind lucking into one like that!

We had a demonstration ride with John Dodgen as the driver.
He's the guy in the left hand corner of this website;
<http://www.bornfreemotorcoach.com/overview_1.cfm>

He's the guy who flipped one with his wife in the co-pilot
seat. A real character <g>.
HD in FL
Hunter - 29 Mar 2005 00:08 GMT
>Biggest plus for Fifth wheel is I get to use the truck when I'm not camping
>so I dont need to buy a motorhome and a commute vehicle.

Bingo.... only one vehicle to maintain, insure, register.

Get a crew cab pick up to pull the fiver, the kids can watch movies in
the back seat.

Hunter
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!"
Will Sill - 29 Mar 2005 13:15 GMT
I see where Hunter <HHamp5246@aol.com> contributed:

>Get a crew cab pick up to pull the fiver, the kids can watch movies in
>the back seat.

Not to pick on Hunter, but I for one find the idea of feeding kids the
intellectual equivalent of contaminated pablum while traveling to be -
well, repugnant.  Kids today already get far too much drivel out of
the TV.  Travel is a wonderful opportunity for them to see the country
as it is, and for parents to TEACH them about how people out of their
own neighborhood live.  

Of course, if you insist on traveling the interstate highway system,
you won't have much material to work with!

Will Sill
The list of subjects I care about is shrinking steadily.
Items missing from that list include but are not limited to:
- The views of moronic and anti-American nut cases
- Terminally boring and/or thoughtless commentaries.
Hunter - 29 Mar 2005 15:55 GMT
>Not to pick on Hunter, but I for one find the idea of feeding kids the
>intellectual equivalent of contaminated pablum while traveling to be -
>well, repugnant.

I agree.... it was his idea to have them watching TV while riding in
the motorhome.

Personally, I think looking out the window is entertaining... but that
said, when I was a kid I hated the drive from NYC to Maryland to visit
my grandparents.  

I would much rather have been watching a video.... I'm sure my parents
would have preferred it too.

I started asking, "Are we there yet?" after we went through the tunnel
into New Jersey. <g>

Hunter
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!"
wwemu@cwnet.com - 29 Mar 2005 18:10 GMT
>I see where Hunter <HHamp5246@aol.com> contributed:
>
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>- The views of moronic and anti-American nut cases
>- Terminally boring and/or thoughtless commentaries.

I get physically ill when we accidently tune into one of these pc kids
programs. They have more violence than any of the old Woody Woodpecker
or Road Runner Cartoons.  They emphasize talking back to parents and
being disobedient. Most I have seen on PBS and other such crap
stations.  I think the adults that put this crap out should be
publically flogged.

George
Hunter - 29 Mar 2005 23:52 GMT
>I get physically ill when we accidently tune into one of these pc kids
>programs. They have more violence than any of the old Woody Woodpecker
>or Road Runner Cartoons.  They emphasize talking back to parents and
>being disobedient. Most I have seen on PBS and other such crap
>stations.  I think the adults that put this crap out should be
>publically flogged.

I agree, not that I watch them ...... best idea if you must is to put
DVDs in a player.

Hunter
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!"
Geoff - 29 Mar 2005 02:52 GMT
> Looking for any feedback from anyone owning one of these and who has put
> some thought in owning the other or anyone who has owned both.
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> Peter
>====
I'm fairly new to motorhomes but what we have is a 21'  C class. When we get
to a campsite we don't hook up to the sewer, we just dump when we leave. We
try to be tidy and put things away as we finish using them. If we want to go
into town or look around a "little", we just use the motorhome. It's easy to
drive and park in parking lots. Most of the vans and trucks you see in the
city's are no smaller. If we want to drive a long distance and then do a
"lot" of sight seeing we have a little 4 banger we tow behind. The extra gas
I use in the Motorhome is more than compensated for by the daily savings in
gas using the 4 banger. My friend goes the 5th wheel route and when we
compare total fuel costs we come out way ahead.
Geoff.
Propwash - 29 Mar 2005 10:23 GMT
Hi Geoff,
We are pretty new to the world of RVing too.  We purchased our first
MH, an inexpensive older 21' Class C, a couple of years ago.  It was a
good learning experience, and we enjoyed our little trips.  Last year
we upgraded to a new 21' Gulfstream BT Cruiser, which we really enjoy!
We would like to get a small vehicle to tow when we go on a longer
trip.  Curious what we might need to consider (equipment, costs, etc.)
to get set up....and some recommendations of good practical vehicle
models, preferrably older!  I've read so many postings about 2wd, 4wd,
automatics, sticks, etc., that now I'm more confused than ever!!
(Maybe I shouldn't have sold my '93  4 cyl stick Jeep Wrangler, but I
just had too many problems having to drive on icy roads with it....
[:0(

Now I'm retired and don't have to make the daily commutes anymore!!

Paul
Geoff - 30 Mar 2005 05:55 GMT
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> models, preferrably older!  I've read so many postings about 2wd, 4wd,
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> Paul
>====
I'm not an expert on this Paul, but I did a search and came up with
http://www.ontheball.com/towbars_main.htm
Hope it helps. you could ask on RORT. rec.outdoors.rv-travel
If you tow it will not be cheap. You will also need a brake adapter
for the toad vehicle. I believe you can tow anything if it's 2 WD
and a stick.
Geoff.
Propwash - 30 Mar 2005 10:29 GMT
Thanks Geoff.  I can see I need to do a lot of research.  I always
value opinions of others who have had favorable experiences.  I have
been reading the many postings on RORT about this, but in most cases,
there are TOO many contradictory opinions!!   [:0))

Paul
Geoff - 30 Mar 2005 16:16 GMT
> Thanks Geoff.  I can see I need to do a lot of research.  I always
> value opinions of others who have had favorable experiences.  I have
> been reading the many postings on RORT about this, but in most cases,
> there are TOO many contradictory opinions!!   [:0))
>
> Paul

======
What do you mean Paul? Contradictory opinions on RORT? Never! <VBG>
Geoff.
 
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