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Research - Towables
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CURTIS THOMPSON - 10 May 2005 23:23 GMT I am researching the dangers of the process of hitching a towable object to a tow vehicle. I hope that you will all bear with me for a few minutes and take the time to think about a few questions that I am looking into. I greatly appreciate your time and consideration. 1. Have you, or have you heard of anyone, ever being hurt or possibly even killed when they were attempting to hitching a car, SUV, truck or motor home to any towable object like a boat, travel trailer, horse trailer or utility trailer? If so please tell me in as much detail as you can about it.
2. Have you, or have you ever heard of anyone that damaged their car, SUV truck or motor home when attaching a tow object like a boat, travel trailer, horse trailer or any other type of tow able equipment to it? If so please tell me in as much detail as you can about it.
3. Have you, or have you ever heard of anyone that damaged their boat, travel trailer, horse trailer or any other type of tow able equipment when attaching it to a car, SUV, truck or motor home? If so please tell me in as much detail as you can about it.
I really appreciate all of your information.
 Signature -- Curtis Thompson
HD in NY - 10 May 2005 23:44 GMT > I am researching the dangers of the process of hitching a towable object to a tow vehicle. I hope that you will all bear with me for a few minutes and take the time to think about a few questions that I am looking into. I greatly appreciate your time and consideration. > 1. Have you, or have you heard of anyone, ever being hurt or possibly even killed when they were attempting to hitching a car, SUV, truck or motor home to any towable object like a boat, travel trailer, horse trailer or utility trailer? If so please tell me in as much detail as you can about it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I really appreciate all of your information. I have to ask, why? HD in NY
LB@notmine.com - 11 May 2005 00:43 GMT > > I am researching the dangers of the process of hitching a towable object to a tow vehicle. I hope that you will all bear with me for a few minutes and take the time to think about a few questions that I am looking into. I greatly appreciate your time and consideration. > > 1. Have you, or have you heard of anyone, ever being hurt or possibly even killed when they were attempting to hitching a car, SUV, truck or motor home to any towable object like a boat, travel trailer, horse trailer or utility trailer? If so please tell me in as much detail as you can about it. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I have to ask, why? > HD in NY A lawyer on a fishing expedition?
LB
CURTIS THOMPSON - 11 May 2005 01:21 GMT Nothing like that! My father and I have a new hitching device that is a low-cost, portable wireless camera and monitor that we have patented and I am trying to do a little market research before we begin marketing it.
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> >> > I am researching the dangers of the process of hitching a towable [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > LB HD in NY - 11 May 2005 02:33 GMT > Nothing like that! My father and I have a new hitching device that is a > low-cost, portable wireless camera and monitor that we have patented and I > am trying to do a little market research before we begin marketing it. It better be cheap, like under $100. One of the things a travel trailer owner takes pride in, is being able to hitch up. Once they get the hang of it, it's simple. I don't think there many instances of damage done to either driver, MonBack or equipment. HD in NY
lfm - 11 May 2005 04:01 GMT >> Nothing like that! My father and I have a new hitching device that is a >> low-cost, portable wireless camera and monitor that we have patented and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > it, it's simple. I don't think there many instances of damage done to > either driver, MonBack or equipment. No, but there is the occasional damage to the marriage! :-)
Laura
HD in NY - 11 May 2005 13:30 GMT >>>Nothing like that! My father and I have a new hitching device that is a >>>low-cost, portable wireless camera and monitor that we have patented and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Laura Not if one has a competent MonBack! ;) HD in NY whose spouse is a good one
RichA - 11 May 2005 05:20 GMT >Nothing like that! My father and I have a new hitching device that is a >low-cost, portable wireless camera and monitor that we have patented and I >am trying to do a little market research before we begin marketing it. Hi, Well in that case it better be cheap, because there are mirrors that you can attach to the back of pickups that do the same thing for under 40 bucks for one. Two, once someone gets used to hooking up a trailer they use something on the trailer as a reference point and can usually get pretty darn close. Three when backing up to hitch looking at a monitor rather then at the rear view mirrors might make matters worse. Four a backup warning device like a siren or beeper can easily be attached to the backup light circuit to warn people. Five,it would have to have a really wide viewing area to the sides to be able to tell if anyone was in the way. Six, there are cheap wireless camera's available now from places like that could tell you if you have the ball under the hitch.
Don't know how many sales you would have but you never know. Backing up travel trailers and 5th wheel trailers has some dangers involved for sure. But because of this *most*, not all for sure, owners are really careful when hitching up. Risk of injury to loved ones and damage to an expensive trailer usually makes folks cautious.
While pitching it as helping safety and reducing damage to vehicles might be true, it would be more of a convenience item, IMO. Remember when you think you invented something that doesn't exist and it's not *completely* new, all you really did is find a different way to do something or use something, which might only be one way of several ways to accomplish the same thing.
Risk vs. Rewards..... If it's cheap enough and unique enough then the rewards might outweigh the risks.
Good luck.
Take care and Happy Campin... RichA "We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
ninebal310@aol.com - 11 May 2005 10:59 GMT > >> > I am researching the dangers of the process of hitching a towable > >> > object to a tow vehicle. I hope that you will all bear with me for a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >> > > >> > I really appreciate all of your information. Well, I am sure you thought of this, but I'll add my 2 cents anyway. The problems that I have observed are as follows:
1. When disconnecting, people forget to chock the wheels of the towed vehicle, therefore, Trailer rolls into the vehicle doing the towing. Or, Vehicle rolls away from towing vehicle. Either way damage can be done can injury can result.
2. People back-up too fast.
3. Mon-backs (guiders/backers) don't stay in the proper position so that the driver can see them at all times.
4. Mon-backs don't look up when driver is being guided backwards, therefore the top of the towed vehicle is vulnerable.
5. Driver don't realize the postion of the front of his vehicle, therefore front bumper hits something/someone.
6. Hitch isn't on the ball correctly.
Being a retired Firefighter/Paramedic for 27 years, I have seen the result of most of these. It all boils down to knowledge, concentration, experience, proper training and common sense. The biggest problem is common sense and that can't be taught. There is no safety item/aide that can overcome the lack of common sense.
Good luck,
Hank <~~~has an occasional lack of common sense too.
Mr. Crowley - 12 May 2005 16:33 GMT >Well, I am sure you thought of this, but I'll add my 2 cents anyway. >The problems that I have observed are as follows: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Being a retired Firefighter/Paramedic for 27 years, I have seen the >result of most of these. Approximately how many times in 27 years have you been called to a trailer hitching accident? Any fatality?
Just wondering . . .
Ron
>It all boils down to knowledge, concentration, >experience, proper training and common sense. The biggest problem is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Hank <~~~has an occasional lack of common sense too. ninebal310@aol.com - 13 May 2005 17:30 GMT > >Well, I am sure you thought of this, but I'll add my 2 cents anyway. > >The problems that I have observed are as follows: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Ron My station took over 6000 runs per year, I took approx. 1/3 of those runs. Most were uncalled for and minor stuff. But about 2% would make you wonder "what were these people thinking?".
I don't remember any hitching problems being fatal. I do remember a couple times where there were property damage and a very good possibility of personal injury tho.
The one that stands out in my mind is when the camper rolled forward and hit the tow vehicle, I can't remember exactly how, but one of the propane bottles was ruptured. No fire, no injuries. They were very lucky.
Another is when the camper rolled back after un-hitching and did a lot of damage to the garage and camper.
If I can think of more, I'll post them. People ask me all the time what was the most exciting run that I took. Believe it or not, that is a hard question to answer.
Hank
Greg Surratt - 13 May 2005 23:22 GMT >I am researching the dangers of the process of hitching a towable object to a tow vehicle. I hope that you will all bear with me for a few minutes and take the time to think about a few questions that I am looking into. I greatly appreciate your time and consideration. >1. Have you, or have you heard of anyone, ever being hurt or possibly even killed when they were attempting to hitching a car, SUV, truck or motor home to any towable object like a boat, travel trailer, horse trailer or utility trailer? If so please tell me in as much detail as you can about it. As a newbie, I was trying to put load levelers on my trailer while hooking up. Using pure muscle and trying to lift the front of the trailer and the back of the truck to get that "one extra link", the crowbar slipped and hit the lower part of my thigh. About three inches farther down the leg, it would have shattered my kneecap and ended what has become a successful military career for me.
After that, I hooked the ball hitch up and then used the tongue jack to raise the rig, put on the bars and then dropped the weight on them. So much easier and safer.
Since then, I've gotten rid of the load levelers by moving to a fiver which I have NOT managed to drop on the side rails of the truck bed (YET ;-)
Greg
Frank Tabor - 14 May 2005 01:19 GMT >Since then, I've gotten rid of the load levelers by moving to a fiver >which I have NOT managed to drop on the side rails of the truck bed >(YET ;-) I think we've all done it one time or another. I've dropped mine three times. Twice because I failed to check the clamp across the back of the kingpin and once because was in a big hurry, tired and forgot to put the landing gear down before pulling the release. Trailer rolled back off the hitch and down on the rails.
All three times I had ornamental rails on the sides and got no damage to the body.
 Signature Frank Tabor
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