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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / May 2005Special toilet chemicals and paper for an RV - newbie question
My wife and I are renting a 23' class C RV next week for a one week trip as a trial run for a one month trip out west next year. The RV place told us we would need special toilet paper and chemicals for the RV. They didn't tell us what kind and we don't seem to be able to find out over the phone. We would like to buy all of our supplies before the trip so we don't waste time before we can leave. Can someone tell me what we should buy for the toilet? TIA. Dick SNyder Dick You do not need "special" toilet paper. We use Scott and it works just fine. Be sure and use plenty of water. I put a couple of inches of water in the tank after dumping it. You can test your toilet paper by putting a sheet or two in a jar with water. Put the lid on and shake it a couple times. If the paper breaks up you are OK. Ron > My wife and I are renting a 23' class C RV next week for a one week trip as > a trial run for a one month trip out west next year. The RV place told us we [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dick SNyder > Dick > > You do not need "special" toilet paper. We use Scott and it works just > fine. Scott is good. The test to see if a brand of toilet paper will work in an RV is to put some in a jar with water, then shake vigorously; if the toilet paper breaks up into tiny bits it will work. > Be sure and use plenty of water. I put a couple of inches of > water in the tank after dumping it. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > Dick SNyder There are two different types of RV chemicals. Formaldehyde based and bacteria based. Some people are reporting they can go much longer with less smell with bacteria based, but it has to be done correctly. The tank has to be free of any harsh chemicals (including residue from a formaldehyde based chemical). No soap or heavily chlorinated water in the holding tank, and separate grey and black water holding tanks so soap doesn't get into the black water tank. If it will work for you the bacteria based is better, until someone pours some shampoo down the toilet because her sensitive nose might have detected a smell. In general supplies for marine use wlil be higher quality than the RV versions. I am sure that the RV place will be more than happy to sell you these things at their store, our did. > My wife and I are renting a 23' class C RV next week for a one week trip > as a trial run for a one month trip out west next year. The RV place told [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Dick SNyder > Can someone tell me what we should buy for the toilet? Walmart likely has everything you need, probably more than you need. We find biodegradable TP in the camping and RV sections (different brands) and black tank deodorizer in the RV section. We've been using TST Max granules for tank deodorizer on our sales critter's recommendation. It's also good for cleaning the bowl -- fill the bowl nearly full and drop in one or two granules. Wait and hour and flush. Not recommended while the trailer is in motion. Regards, John Kinney >We've been using TST Max granules for tank deodorizer on our sales >critter's recommendation. It's also good for cleaning the bowl -- fill >the bowl nearly full and drop in one or two granules. Wait and hour and >flush. Not recommended while the trailer is in motion. Hi John, Why not when the trailer is in motion? Hunter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!" snipped *>>the bowl nearly full* > Hi John, > > Why not when the trailer is in motion? > > Hunter ;) HD in NY > Why not when the trailer is in motion? Um, slosh? Regards, John Kinney >Um, slosh? > >Regards, John Kinney I must have missed something..... was he putting the chemicals in the bowl or the tank? Hunter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!" >>Um, slosh? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy > sh.t...what a ride!" The bowl. >The bowl. Oh, who puts chemicals in the bowl? Hunter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!" >>The bowl. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, > but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!" His text; > We've been using TST Max granules for tank deodorizer on our sales > critter's recommendation. **It's also good for cleaning the bowl** -- fill > the bowl nearly full and drop in one or two granules. Wait and hour and > flush. Not recommended while the trailer is in motion. HD in NY >His text; >> We've been using TST Max granules for tank deodorizer on our sales >> critter's recommendation. **It's also good for cleaning the bowl** -- fill >> the bowl nearly full and drop in one or two granules. Wait and hour and >> flush. Not recommended while the trailer is in motion Okay, thanks..... I just can't imagine cleaning a bowl that way so I guess my brain didn't read it right <g> Hunter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!" > Oh, who puts chemicals in the bowl? Without getting *too* graphic, some essential medications interfere with normal digestive processes, commonly resulting in smelly stains in the toilet bowl, no matter whether you pre-fill the bowl with water. Cleaning the toilet bowl when you're already feeling like sh*t is a bit of a chore. I got curious about whether the TST Max tank deodorizer might work to ease the chore. I filled the toilet bowl with water above the soiled level and dropped in a few granules. After a while I returned to flush the bowl and it was literally spotless. It's become a standard procedure here because of its simplicity and effectiveness. No doubt there are some folks here who prefer to scrub and flush. I believe in better living through chemistry. Regards, John Kinney > I filled the toilet bowl with water above the >soiled level and dropped in a few granules. After a while I returned to >flush the bowl and it was literally spotless. It's become a standard >procedure here because of its simplicity and effectiveness. I like it.... do you have a plastic or porcelain bowl? Hunter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!" > I like it.... do you have a plastic or porcelain bowl? We have one of the Thetford rear flush-handle units. Tap test says it's a plastic bowl. Regards, John Kinney >We have one of the Thetford rear flush-handle units. Tap test says >it's a plastic bowl. > >Regards, John Kinney I have the porcelain one. I got rid of the plastic one. I'm surprised the stuff doesn't hurt the plastic. Hunter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!" > I'm surprised the stuff doesn't hurt the plastic. ...and just what do you think HOLDING TANKS are made of? <big grin> JR >...and just what do you think HOLDING TANKS are made of? > > <big grin> Oh yeah.... I guess I was thinking the toilets were different plastics... Doh. Bedtime for Bonzo... Hunter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!" > Oh yeah.... I guess I was thinking the > toilets were different plastics... Oh, I'm sure they are different. I suppose that harsh chemicals (whatever THAT means) could damage the "shine" or fine finish of toilet plastic and I'm SURE that abrasives are bad, but I can't imagine that anything that is safe for a plastic holding tank would do any SERIOUS damage to a plastic toilet. On my next rig I may well opt for a porcelain model. They are certainly more classy than any plastic toilet I've seen. The two downsides to china, IMHO, are co$t and weight. :) JR > The two downsides to china, IMHO, >are co$t and weight. The third downside is it doesn't hold water well. It's badly designed I think, the slidey thing isn't flat like in Thetfords but rounded instead. So "stuff" goes down to the seal and gets caught and the bowl goes dry. I do like how easy it is to clean and mostly that I can use a regular toilet seat... but I'd never buy another. Hunter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!" >Hunter <HHamp5246@aol.com> wrote: >> The two downsides to china, IMHO, >>are co$t and weight. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Hunter We have been living in the current rig for over a year now, and the china Sealand toilet has never failed to hold water. It's a vast improvement over the Thetford Aria toilet in our last rig. Whoever thought it was a good idea to make an electrically operated toilet should be sh.t-canned to Training, or wherever it is they transfer their incompetent boobs.  SignatureDD >>...and just what do you think HOLDING TANKS are made of? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Hunter There are thousands of different plastics. THermo-formed, thermo-set, etc. Been a long time since I was involved in the plastics technology. Acetal Polyethylene Polycarbonate Nylon PC/ABS Acrylic ASA SAN ABS Polypropylene AES Polystyrene Are just a few types of plastics. unk What about the bottle the stuff comes in? >> I'm surprised the stuff doesn't hurt the plastic. > >...and just what do you think HOLDING TANKS are made of? > > <big grin> >JR > > I'm surprised the stuff doesn't hurt the plastic. > > ...and just what do you think HOLDING TANKS are made of? > > <big grin> > JR FYI--not all tanks are plastic--my 1996 MH has metal ones. Makes one hell of a racket if I let the spinner on the tank cleaner wand hit the bottom :-) SignatureJud Dallas TX USA >Cleaning the toilet bowl when you're already feeling like sh*t is a bit of >a chore. I got curious about whether the TST Max tank deodorizer might >work to ease the chore. > >Regards, John Kinney What is TST Max? I've been buying the TST Max granules from Walmart for years and it works really good. > What is TST Max? Toilet chemical, man. Toilet chemical. <http://www.camco.net/Menu.cfm?SupCategoryId=10000&SubCategoryId=207> Google is amazing. :) JR >> What is TST Max? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > :) >JR You see, I thought he was referring to Tri Sodium Phosphate, commonly labeled TSP. Not a brand name. And, yes, Google IS amazing. I use it a lot,...but not always when my input may be suspect. ;) dn >My wife and I are renting a 23' class C RV next week for a one week trip as >a trial run for a one month trip out west next year. The RV place told us we >would need special toilet paper and chemicals for the RV. I'm sure the RV place would be more than willing to sell all of this stuff to you, but you don't need either. Any kind of toilet paper will do; and chemicals are only employed as a substitute for fixing a defective toliet and sewage system which is leaking odours into the interior of the RV. A properly designed black water system, doesn't emit odours unless you happen to open the toilet valve while the bathroom fan is on, sucking black tank odour into the bathroom. |
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