I have decided to buy a new RV. I am going by Monday to pay the down
payment. Here is vehicle info & link:
http://www.fourwinds-rv.com/
Start by clicking -> Product, Class C, Chateau, Chateau. floor plan 31P.
Fourwinds Chateau, 31' Ford E450 dually (is this right spelling?). Any
complaints on this model. Its about all I can afford.
I am making a list of things "I" want the dealer to do before I accept it.
1. Fill tanks and drain them using supplied hose.
Hopefully this means I don't have to take it back and get leaks
fixed. I will want a clear water demo to make sure dump pipe fits.
2. Run A/C and see that both units work.
Its 90+ here in Texas these days. When deal says ok, I will then
want a demo.
3. Check that all tires are properly inflated.
Dually and inside wheel can get tricky.
4. Fill propane and check all joints for leaks.
Is there a gas detector? Smoke detector.
5. Make sure battery is testing full charge.
6. Engine check points all pointed out and show me stick location.
I should add that I am a disabled vet and have already ordered special entry
handles installed. Any thing else I should get regarding HC help? Only
problem I really have health wise is left leg has lots of healed holes and
several screws still in, but it works fine if I use those special hand
assists to climb stairs. Since I can climb regular steps ok, I not worried.
I currently am able to get in and out of my daughter's 34' TT by backing out
to get that last LONG step. Tricky bitch that last step.
Q: Should I ask dealer to put long value stems on inside wheels so that I
can check without rolling around on ground!
I haven't checked this yet, and stems might already be there. I use
one of those shower chairs to get close to the ground to reach down, and to
climb on to get back up. I would suggest other olders like me get themselves
one of these chairs. They sure do come in handy. Once I get down, I can get
up only by climbing!
Q: What is best after market back up camera-monitor setup?
If you having anything to add to my wish list please do it here. Its truly
dealer revenge when you get all your hits in while their holding the short
straw.
Was a lurker, now a leaper.
Just writing this down has helps to get my mind better prepared for dealer
prep. Hell, this is getting like planning a military operation. I might even
make a video! Sorry about the long message but you have to get all the ducks
in a row. At least to the best of my ability.
Diamond Jim
LB@notmine.com - 21 May 2005 19:57 GMT
> I have decided to buy a new RV. I am going by Monday to pay the down
> payment. Here is vehicle info & link:
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> Diamond Jim
No help, but I think its a great post. You should find some good help.
LB
Tom J - 21 May 2005 20:33 GMT
>I have decided to buy a new RV. I am going by Monday to pay the down
>payment. Here is vehicle info & link:
> I should add that I am a disabled vet and have already ordered
> special entry handles installed.
Have you already signed a contract to buy this rig? I think that
would come before the special entry handles would be installed. If
so, you are already holding the short straw, not the dealer.
Tom J
RichA - 21 May 2005 20:55 GMT
>I have decided to buy a new RV. I am going by Monday to pay the down
>payment. Here is vehicle info & link:
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>Diamond Jim
Hi,
You should make sure you get along well with your dealer. Don't go in
there with an aggressive attitude. They are the first line of defense
between you and the manufacturer if you start having problems.
Sometimes that's hard to do with some dealers but the more you can get
along with each other the easier everything is going to be down the
road.
If this is a new RV, most if not all of the things you have listed
should be done when you go and pick the RV up. You should get a walk
through of the vehicle showing you how everything works. Take a video
camera with you and film the walk through. It's will be a good
reference later if you have any doubts about how something works.
Don't be afraid to ask ANY questions. It's better to ask what even
you may think is a dumb question then to be stuck with a problem later
on because you were afraid to ask. Take your time with the walk
through, if the person conducting it says you know how that works,
right? Say no and have them explain it while you tape it. It may be
that you thought you knew how something works but this might be
different.
Again if this is a new vehicle, the propane system should have been
checked at the factory for leaks. The dealer might also have
performed a leak check when they received it or on their check list
before selling it. Doesn't hurt to ask. You may or may not get full
propane tanks, depends upon the dealer. Most put at least some
propane in so the appliances that use it can be checked.
They should run all systems for you. First to show you how to do it
and second to make sure they work. They should have been checked out
before you got there but you never know. If they don't ask them to.
That includes the AC, the refrigerator, stove, microwave, TV's, VCR's,
radios, water pump, water heater, slide outs, etc. The water tanks
should be full when you get there. If not have them fill them. Look
inside the compartments where the water tanks are located several
times to make sure they don't leak. Draining the fresh water tank
usually isn't a problem but you can ask them to show you where all the
low point drains are. If the black and gray tanks are empty they can
walk you through how to dump them, or if they have a dump station they
can show you even if the tanks are not empty.
Most dual wheels have extenders anymore for filling the inside tire.
But if this one doesn't it won't hurt to ask to have them installed.
You might want to give them a call about this ahead of time so they
can get them installed for when you pick the vehicle up. The tires
will probably be aired up to whatever the pressures are shown on the
tire and weight sticker. You should ask where that sticker is
located. There should also be a weight sticker somewhere in one of
the cabinets, a lot of times they are in the cabinets in the bathroom,
but could be anywhere. That will tell you exactly what the weights
are.
You can ask about the battery charging and the converter and how it
works and if there are any battery monitors. Usually they have a
monitor installed, though they are not normally very precise.
All of the above should be done BEFORE you sign any paper work taking
ownership. You never know you could find something major wrong, with
the engine or coach.
You should try and stay at the dealership a day or two, or at least
at a campground nearby and actually camp and use the RV. That way if
there are any problems that you find you can take it right back and
have them fixed. Tell them you are going to do this and would like to
have any problems you find fixed right away, so they can have someone
assigned to take care of you if you do find problems. This is also a
good time to sit down and read all the operators manuals for the RV
and all the accessories. You can fill out the warranty cards too.
Some dealerships may ask you to take the vehicle and use it and make a
list and then come back. Which is ok too as long as you don't have to
wait months to get an appointment.
Congrats on your new RV. May you have many years of enjoyment and
pleasure with it.
Take care and Happy Campin...
RichA
"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
Bill Lederer - 30 May 2005 14:06 GMT
We bought a Class C, 31', Chateau three years ago. We love it!
Best of luck!
Bill & Cathy
>>I have decided to buy a new RV. I am going by Monday to pay the down
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>RichA
>"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
John Andrews - 22 May 2005 00:49 GMT
> I have decided to buy a new RV. I am going by Monday to pay the down
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> Diamond Jim
About the batteries being tested full charge. Batteries can
deteriorate while a new unit sits on the lot. Better than a
full charge is to make sure the batteries are new, hopefully
made in the current quarter. All batteries have a date code on
them, so you can check. Insist on new batteries, THEN make sure
they are fully charged.
John Andrews, Knoxville, Tennessee
Jon Porter - 22 May 2005 02:06 GMT
JA> I should add that I am a disabled vet and have already ordered special
JA> entry handles installed. Any thing else I should get regarding HC
JA> help? Only problem I really have health wise is left leg has lots of
JA> healed holes and several screws still in, but it works fine if I use
JA> those special hand assists to climb stairs. Since I can climb regular
JA> steps ok, I not worried. I currently am able to get in and out of my
JA> daughter's
JA> 34' TT by backing out to get that last LONG step. Tricky bitch that
JA> last step.
Carry an extra step with you. Build it or buy it.
JPinOH
Jon Porter <jporterDropthis@netwalk.com> Sat, 21 May 2005 19:11:37 -0400
RAM^3 - 22 May 2005 04:09 GMT
> JA> I should add that I am a disabled vet and have already ordered special
> JA> entry handles installed. Any thing else I should get regarding HC
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> Carry an extra step with you. Build it or buy it.
http://www.campingworld.com/browse/products/index.cfm?deptID=&subOf=94,3&prodID=3807 -
we carry at least 2 with us at all times: 1 for use *inside* and 1 for use
*outside*.
I also keep 1 in the bed of the truck where I can reach it easily: a Dodge
4WD doolie is *tall*!
tat-2 - 22 May 2005 05:05 GMT
I can help you with a low cost back up video.
Go to Walmart and purchase the $47.89 or so 1 camera and monitor system
expandable to 2 camers with a timed delay switch. (It is B&W).
hard wired and 12V compatable. I mounted the monitor on the "step" to the
top bunk/overhead cab bed.
I have it position so that my rear view mirror can "see" it. It reverse the
view so that right is left and left is right.
I used a 2 part epoxy putty to seal the hole in the rear strorage
compartment. Mounted to the rear bumper (note my sewage hose doesn't store
here). slightly to the right (driver side).
Is this system perfect, NO but at 1/15-1/20 of the price well it works for
me and $50 is dirt cheap for some extra safety. It saved my butt once where
I had to back up out of a bank parking lot that was being repaired on to a
semi-major thourough fair.
Ed
aka
tat-2
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> Diamond Jim
Bax - 24 May 2005 03:13 GMT
Do they still sell these?
The shelf is bare at the nearest Walmart.
Bax
>I can help you with a low cost back up video.
>Go to Walmart and purchase the $47.89 or so 1 camera and monitor system
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>> Diamond Jim
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tat-2 - 24 May 2005 04:44 GMT
I picked mine up about 2-3 weeks ago. I think they had a few more. There
were some with "old box" design and some with a newer design. The old box is
better, it allowed 2 cameras to hook up and switch back and forth from
2-20seconds.
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Flo Cala - 24 May 2005 05:07 GMT
> Do they still sell these?
>
> The shelf is bare at the nearest Walmart.
>
> Bax
>> I can help you with a low cost back up video.
>> Go to Walmart and purchase the $47.89 or so 1 camera and monitor
Wal-Mart is out of stock. See these at Harbor Freight:
$29.99
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47546
$39.99
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=91851
-Dot
tat-2 - 25 May 2005 18:28 GMT
I bought the B&W one from Harbor freight and promptly returned it.
It would not work with a 5.5" portable B&W TV.
I have no idea how the color version is.
Ed
>> Do they still sell these?
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> -Dot
Flo Cala - 26 May 2005 04:54 GMT
> I bought the B&W one from Harbor freight and promptly returned it.
> It would not work with a 5.5" portable B&W TV.
>
> I have no idea how the color version is.
>
> Ed
Nowwww...... DH tells me!<g> He had the same problem with H.F.'s B&W
camera and a 5" B&W TV monitor. Sorry. How about one of those X10's?
Some RVers have used them. Also, there're security camera systems on
the web. I believe the OP was thinking of adding a camera to a 1976
RV. So, unless he's doing an upscale remodel, whatever works that he
can jury rig seems like it should be OK.
-Dot
Bill Lederer - 30 May 2005 13:36 GMT
We bought a Class C, 31', Chateau three years ago. We love it!
The electric step works fine. It's quite low, not like a lot of TTers
I have seen.
As far as seeing the back, you can look in the rear view mirror and
see behind you. We have that flat plastic thing that sticks to the
back window. I can see fine.
Bill & Cathy
>I have decided to buy a new RV. I am going by Monday to pay the down
>payment. Here is vehicle info & link:
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>Diamond Jim