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Why I will always pack wheel bearings every spring

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dremelts - 25 May 2005 17:44 GMT
We had to forego our usual fall camping trip last year so I was almost
tempted to skip packing the wheel bearings this spring - it's a messy
job that I don't at all look forward to.  Glad I didn't skip it though.
 The front brake shoe linings on both right wheels had detached from
the shoes and just fell on the ground when I removed the brake drums. I
never noticed anything the last time I had the trailer out so I am
guessing that the linings came loose over the winter.

Fortunately I had a complete set of brake shoes on hand so at least I
didn't have to run all over town trying to find them on a Saturday
afternoon.

I also noticed that one inner bearing looked a little discolored like it
may have gotten hot, so I replace that bearing.

So that is why I will always repack the wheel bearings every spring and
would never consider using something like those EZ-Lube spindles.  You
just don't know what is going on in there unless you take it apart.

Regards,
Dave
2002 Layton 237
Chris Hill - 26 May 2005 15:39 GMT
>We had to forego our usual fall camping trip last year so I was almost
>tempted to skip packing the wheel bearings this spring - it's a messy
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>would never consider using something like those EZ-Lube spindles.  You
>just don't know what is going on in there unless you take it apart.

Never heard of winter making brake shoes fall off.  I'd be concerned
too, but I think I'd be more concerned about something being truly
wrong with the system.
Malobenski - 04 Jun 2005 14:23 GMT
>Never heard of winter making brake shoes fall off.  I'd be concerned
>too, but I think I'd be more concerned about something being truly
>wrong with the system.

Likely it was the idjit that was in there last. If that happened to me I
would be looking for a new mechainic.
57Pan - 06 Jun 2005 18:16 GMT
>>Never heard of winter making brake shoes fall off.  I'd be concerned
>>too, but I think I'd be more concerned about something being truly
>>wrong with the system.
>
> Likely it was the idjit that was in there last. If that happened to me I
> would be looking for a new mechainic.

Well, I guess that would be me.

We bought the trailer new and I'm the only one that has been in there.
I have packed the wheel bearings myself every spring and inspect the
brakes while I am in the process.  The trailer has approx. 10,000 miles
on it and the linings that fell off the shoes were the OEM brakes and
had a LOT of life in them yet and there were no signs of uneven or
abnormal wear.

I have never heard of winter making brake linings fall off either but I
am quite certain that there is nothing wrong with the brake mechanism.
It just seemed very strange that it was the front shoe on both right
wheels that was affected.

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Dave
2002 Layton 237

Brent - 01 Jun 2005 21:47 GMT
I just purchased a 27' TT,  I have read and heard that the bearings should
be repacked every 300, 500 miles/3, 6 months.  So many different/conflicting
times.

What does everyone else do.  I use my trailer about once per month traveling
200 to 300 miles per trip. so between 2000 and 3500 miles per year.   I know
the wheel bearing on my car don't get repacked every 500 miles what makes a
trailers bearings so fragile.

Thanks in advance for you help.

Brent
Trekking Tom - 01 Jun 2005 23:52 GMT
Boat trailers should be repacked every year. Your trailer hopefully
does not get backed into any lakes. I would make a point of doing it
periodically and checking tire pressures before starting out on a trip
( daily when traveling) Quick checks tire by thumping at fuel stops
also should include feeling for heat by the hubs. A bad bearing will
generate a lot of heat. If you feel one is much hotter time to stop
and get it fixed right then. Learn how to pack the bearings yourself
is will give you a good idea what to look for and how to fix something
before it causes a breakdown.  

Tom  

>I just purchased a 27' TT,  I have read and heard that the bearings should
>be repacked every 300, 500 miles/3, 6 months.  So many different/conflicting
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>
>Brent
RichA - 02 Jun 2005 02:43 GMT
>I just purchased a 27' TT,  I have read and heard that the bearings should
>be repacked every 300, 500 miles/3, 6 months.  So many different/conflicting
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Brent

Hi,
You should check and repack the wheel bearings once a year. It's not
a big job, easy DIY weekend couple of hours.  You don't need to do
them every couple hundred miles.  The reason you repack are to check
and make sure the bearings are ok and they have plenty of grease.  To
check and make sure the brakes are ok, including shoes and magnets and
wiring.

Take care and Happy Campin...

RichA
"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
Hunter - 02 Jun 2005 03:33 GMT
>What does everyone else do.  I use my trailer about once per month traveling
>200 to 300 miles per trip. so between 2000 and 3500 miles per year.   I know
>the wheel bearing on my car don't get repacked every 500 miles what makes a
>trailers bearings so fragile.

The guy who does mine recommends every 10,000 miles.  If I did as
little as you do every year I would have it done once a year instead
of waiting for the 10,000 mile mark.

Hunter
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!"
popupguy2001 - 06 Jun 2005 19:24 GMT
> I know  the wheel bearing on my car don't get repacked every 500 miles what makes >a trailers bearings so fragile.

Nothing, they a basically the same as auto bearing.  But the
dealerships say they need to be repacked annually to drum up business.

Wheel bearing typical can take allot of punishment /abuse before they
fail and in some cases take can a long time before they fail, but due
that they are on the trailer you can not feel or hear them going bad.
If you have bearings going bad or some one screwed up the last packing
you may get threw a season with no problems and catch it in the spring
before any major damage is caused.  That's why they say to do it so
often.

I know how to repack wheel bearings and only do mine about every 10,000
miles.  Every time I do repack I have the same results, everything is
fine and good for another 10,000.

Unless you are confident in yourself doing the job or someone else, I
would repack them at least every 3,000.

Dave
ninebal310@aol.com - 07 Jun 2005 13:14 GMT
As a previous poster stated, the bearings aren't that fragile. They are
the same as a car.

One problem is the TT/camper sits for extended periods of time. During
that idle time, the grease slowly works its way to the bottom and lays
there. Then, when you get ready to tow it, only the bottom of the
bearings get enough grease to initially grease them. After a few miles
down the road, the grease will be evenly distibuted, but alot of times
it is too late.

Another problem is wheel diameter. Most TT's have big enough wheels so
they aren't turning as fast as the smaller (8" to 12") models. The
smaller and faster tirning wheels will cause more heat build-up.
Therefore, they should be checked more frequently.

As far as brake linings coming apart: Temperature changes, rust and/or
bad bonding will cause this. Again, TT's that sit idle for extended
times have more problems with brakes, tires, bearings and etc.

It is my opinion that lack of use is just as bad as over use.

Hank <~~~~tries to use it before I lose it.
ninebal310@aol.com - 07 Jun 2005 13:17 GMT
> I just purchased a 27' TT,  I have read and heard that the bearings should
> be repacked every 300, 500 miles/3, 6 months.  So many different/conflicting
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Brent

As a previous poster stated, the bearings aren't that fragile. They are
the same as a car.

One problem is the TT/camper sits for extended periods of time. During
that idle time, the grease slowly works its way to the bottom and lays
there. Then, when you get ready to tow it, only the bottom of the
bearings get enough grease to initially grease them. After a few miles
down the road, the grease will be evenly distibuted, but alot of times
it is too late.

Another problem is wheel diameter. Most TT's have big enough wheels so
they aren't turning as fast as the smaller (8" to 12") models. The
smaller and faster turning wheels will cause more heat build-up.
Therefore, they should be checked more frequently.

As far as brake linings coming apart: Temperature changes, rust and/or
bad bonding will cause this. Again, TT's that sit idle for extended
times have more problems with brakes, tires, bearings and etc.

It is my opinion that lack of use is just as bad as over use.

Hank <~~~~tries to use it before I lose it.
ninebal310@aol.com - 07 Jun 2005 14:01 GMT
As a previous poster stated, the bearings aren't that fragile. They are
the same as a car.

One problem is the TT/camper sits for extended periods of time. During
that idle time, the grease slowly works its way to the bottom and lays
there. Then, when you get ready to tow it, only the bottom of the
bearings get enough grease to initially grease them. After a few miles
down the road, the grease will be evenly distibuted, but alot of times
it is too late.

Another problem is wheel diameter. Most TT's have big enough wheels so
they aren't turning as fast as the smaller (8" to 12") models. The
smaller and faster tirning wheels will cause more heat build-up.
Therefore, they should be checked more frequently.

As far as brake linings coming apart: Temperature changes, rust and/or
bad bonding will cause this. Again, TT's that sit idle for extended
times have more problems with brakes, tires, bearings and etc.

It is my opinion that lack of use is just as bad as over use.

Hank <~~~~tries to use it before I lose it.
Chris Bryant - 07 Jun 2005 14:37 GMT
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:01:05 -0700, ninebal310 wrote:

> It is my opinion that lack of use is just as bad as over use.

I agree 100% One year we put 48,000 miles on our trailer- I repacked them
once, and they were fine.
years when I put only a couple of thousand miles- I repack as well.

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Chris Bryant
http://bryantrv.com

wwemu@cwnet.com - 07 Jun 2005 15:53 GMT
>On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:01:05 -0700, ninebal310 wrote:
>
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>once, and they were fine.
>years when I put only a couple of thousand miles- I repack as well.

Hey Chris,

48,000 mile on your trailer in one year???  That is an average of
4,000 miles per month...  You sure didn't do much sitting or looking
with that kind of traveling....  Just what were you doing?  

George
Chris Bryant - 07 Jun 2005 16:15 GMT
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:53:33 -0700, wwemu wrote:

> 48,000 mile on your trailer in one year???  That is an average of 4,000
> miles per month...  You sure didn't do much sitting or looking with that
> kind of traveling....  Just what were you doing?

No kidding- we saw the highways, and that's about it. That year we were
managing a touring ice show- one night stands. A couple of the more
memorable jumps- 2 days to get from Dallas/Ft Worth to Bridgeport, CT. and
a jump from just north of Boston to southern Virginia (Danville, IIRC)-
from a night show (finish load out around midnight) to an afternoon
matinee. We would have made it if the main show truck hadn't lost its
brakes going through Richmond ;( Found a guy who could work on air brakes
on a Sunday morning, though.

We wound up putting around 400,000 miles on the trailer (seven different
tow vehicles), and I saw the trailer a few months ago, and it still looks
good.

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Chris Bryant
http://bryantrv.com

wwemu@cwnet.com - 07 Jun 2005 21:45 GMT
>On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:53:33 -0700, wwemu wrote:
>
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>tow vehicles), and I saw the trailer a few months ago, and it still looks
>good.

I knew it couldn't have been a vacation... Had to be work and some
work at that.....  You understand my incredulous response at first
look?

George
Malobenski - 18 Jun 2005 19:17 GMT
>> 48,000 mile on your trailer in one year???  That is an average of 4,000
>> miles per month...  You sure didn't do much sitting or looking with that
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>tow vehicles), and I saw the trailer a few months ago, and it still looks
>good.

I thought maybe that was the year they offerred a decent "bounty" on right
wing conservatives!!!!! VBG
 
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