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Drinking  city water at RV parks

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Dick Snyder - 30 May 2005 11:57 GMT
My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago. There
was a sign in the RV saying to only drink bottled water and not the city
water. We chose to ignore that sign thinking (hoping) that it was just for
the rental company's protection and not for ours. What do you more
experienced RV people do?

TIA.

Dick Snyder
Rich - 30 May 2005 13:19 GMT
>My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago. There
>was a sign in the RV saying to only drink bottled water and not the city
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>Dick Snyder

dick,

we always leave for a trip with a full tank of fresh water that we
know to be safe and clean just in case the water at our destination is
polluted (that happened to us in new mexico) or clean but bad tasting.
having a full tank of fresh water also enables us to be spontaneous in
terms of where we go and how long we stay when we get there.  all of
that is mute if the source of the water to be placed in your tank at
the start of your trip is bad. municipal water systems have to meet
state and federal standards regarding cleanliness and safety so i
wouldn't worry so much about those.  the few times we've had problems
have been with private well systems.  

if the sign in your rented RV meant city water in general then it was
probably intended for the protection of the rental company...although
i can't imagine what they're trying to protect themselves from.  if
the sign was referring to the city water in the town you rented the RV
in, then it might have been for your protection.

we've never been forced to drink bottled water and we don't buy it.
the wife of friends that we camp with insists on nothing BUT bottled
water..she says it tastes better than tap water.  so, other than the
cleanliness/spontaneous issues, it boils down (no pun intended) to a
matter of personal preference.

so tell us, how did you and your wife enjoy the RV?  where did you go
and what did you see?  was this a one-time thing or are you thinking
of buying an RV?

73,
rich, n9dko
Mike Soda - 30 May 2005 14:32 GMT
I have another take on this. The RV Rental Co does not want to
sanitize the fresh water tank and plumbing after every rental. The
sign is a legal CYA. For a rental, it's probably good advise. If you
owned your own RV, you control the condition of the fresh water tank
and all plumbing.

Unless the campground says don't drink their water, it is safe. It
might not taste good but it won't hurt you.

>>My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago. There
>>was a sign in the RV saying to only drink bottled water and not the city
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>73,
>rich, n9dko
Dick Snyder - 31 May 2005 20:58 GMT
This was a "shakedown" cruise for a one month trip out west next summer in
June. We went to Amish country in PA, Gettysburg, and Skyline Drive. Our
goal on this trip was less the scenery and more the issues of living in an
RV. We really liked the RV but have no intention of buying one.

>>My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago. There
>>was a sign in the RV saying to only drink bottled water and not the city
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> 73,
> rich, n9dko
Bob Hatch - 30 May 2005 15:31 GMT
> My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago.
> There was a sign in the RV saying to only drink bottled water and not
> the city water. We chose to ignore that sign thinking (hoping) that
> it was just for the rental company's protection and not for ours.
> What do you more experienced RV people do?

Unless there is a sign in the RV park saying "Don't drink the water", and
there never has been, we hook up the hose and use the water.

We drink bottled water, because we like it better, but we use the water
where ever we are for coffee, showers, brushing teeth, cooking, etc. When
we've run out of bottled water we drink the city water.

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Joe Bedford - 30 May 2005 17:48 GMT
We use the water at the campground but for coffee, glasses of wawa and
icecubes we filter it through a Brita that we keep in the fridge.

Cheers, Joe

> My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago. There
> was a sign in the RV saying to only drink bottled water and not the city
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> Dick Snyder
GeoffP - 30 May 2005 19:29 GMT
> We use the water at the campground but for coffee, glasses of wawa and
> icecubes we filter it through a Brita that we keep in the fridge.
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>>
>> Dick Snyder

=====
We use bottled for everything we can't boil.
Why take chances? It's so inexpensive.
Geoff.
b b - 30 May 2005 19:37 GMT
> My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago. There
> was a sign in the RV saying to only drink bottled water and not the city
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>
> Dick Snyder

I think a rental RV is a good place to use bottled water, as you have NO
IDEA how much care the previous renters took with their water supply,
and once a tank and pipes are contaminated it takes LOTS of work and
care to clean it.

We always drink the water from our RV tank...but we also use care where
we fill it, preferring treated city water when it is available, and
ALWAYS ask if the available water is potable before filling if there is
no sign.  ONCE the answer was no, and we filled elsewhere.  That whole
town bought bottled water!!  It's VERY good we asked.  We've never had
any inkling of a problem drinking our tank water in 4 years....

HTH,
Barrie B
wardm@igs.net - 30 May 2005 20:22 GMT
In our RV we run all incoming water through a filter. Nothing really special
but one that helps remove some contaminants and tastes.
In our last RV we also had a 'purification system' going through one tap in
the galley. This filter took out bacteria etc.
That combination left us with no tummyaches.
I am installing a purification system in the new RV.

mike

> My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago. There
> was a sign in the RV saying to only drink bottled water and not the city
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> Dick Snyder
Jon Porter - 01 Jun 2005 22:40 GMT
DS> My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago.
DS> There was a sign in the RV saying to only drink bottled water and not
DS> the city water. We chose to ignore that sign thinking (hoping) that it
DS> was just for the rental company's protection and not for ours. What do
DS> you more experienced RV people do?

Because it is a rental, the fresh water system needs to be sanitized in
order to be sure that it is safe for drinking. The rental company is not
doing that.

JPinOH
Jon Porter <jporterDropthis@netwalk.com> Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:35:05 -0400
Dick Snyder - 03 Jun 2005 13:23 GMT
I take it sanitizing an RV fresh water tank is like doing it for a well.
Chlorine followed by lots of flushing until chlorine is no longer present.
True?

> DS> My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago.
> DS> There was a sign in the RV saying to only drink bottled water and not
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Rudy - 15 Jun 2005 07:03 GMT
> My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago.

Rental units water tank/systems cleanliness may be suspect.   Our personal
RV..well, I know the system has been taken care of but rentals ??

Before I used a rental, I'd dump all the water in the tanks/lines, then put
a gallon of bleach into the tank, and then add another gallon or 2 of clean
water and then run the pump thru the system/lines for a while, then drain
the whole thing again.
We've stayed at probably 20 different RV parks and have never had a problem
with their water.

R
John Andrews - 15 Jun 2005 14:33 GMT
Wow! A gallon of bleach!  Way too much. Use one cup, then fill
the tank with water (fill it up!  30 to 40 gallons...) then run
the water through all the lines, don't forget the toilet line
and the outside water hose if you have one.  Then let the water
sit in the lines for a couple of hours.  Then drain it all.  Now
fill the tank with a couple of gallons of water, add a small box
of baking soda, then fill the tank again all the way.  Run this
through the lines like you did the bleach.  This process kills
the bleach taste.  Drain the tank again.  Add fresh water and
run it through all the lines to kill the baking soda taste.
Done, right this time.  That gallon of bleach could be very hard
on the washers and gaskets of the system.  Don't do it that way.
 Use the right concentration for the job.

John Andrews, Knoxville, Tennessee

>>My wife and I rented an RV for the first time a couple of weeks ago.
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> R
Oren Beck - 15 Jun 2005 18:41 GMT
>Wow! A gallon of bleach!  Way too much. Use one cup, then fill
>the tank with water (fill it up!  30 to 40 gallons...) then run
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>> R

Been following this and decided to pitch in my most recent "horror
story"

Basically one of our yearly stay campers had been using our park water
on a full hookup site for 6 years zero problems. So for the six years
he owned the rig no atention had been paid to it's tank,pump etc
systeme believing that the check valve between the systems wold be
enough...   This year he plans to winter here, so he decided to clean
and bleach his water system way ahead of time. good thing he did!

BZZZT___

That being the buzz of the Missouri Air Force!

His 40 gallon tank had become nearly full of mud daubers and ther old
nests. The screw cap opening - missing it's cap- from that water
intake was very inviting to the critters. And they obeyed the
commandment to be fruitful and multiply...Result was zero water flow
into the tank what he tried to fill it. Luckily his visual inspection
caught the err BUG.

Was fixed by tank replacement as the cheapest cost Vs time repair.
Lesson is keep caps tight or get stung.

Oren Beck

www.campdownunder.com
Rudy - 16 Jun 2005 06:22 GMT
>  That gallon of bleach could be very hard  on the washers and gaskets of
> the system.  Don't do it that way.
>  Use the right concentration for the job.

Bleach is only 5% sodium hypochlorite, and if he added another gallon or
two, we'd be down to less than 2%.
What IS "the right concentration for the job "  and WHO has proclaimed it ?

'One cup in 40 gallons' sounds pretty weak to sterilize a possible scum
corrupted neglected water system.
Even one whole gallon in 40 of 5% NaHClO3 will yield only a .125% mixture.

That mix, plus flushing it out anyway won't hurt the rubber washers.
Jim Redelfs - 16 Jun 2005 12:16 GMT
>> Use the right concentration for the job.

> What IS "the right concentration for the job "

That depends on your information source.  In ANY case, however, the
concentration (or dilution, if you prefer) never even approaches 1 gallon to a
tankful of water.

> and WHO has proclaimed it ?

<http://www.ehow.com/how_7771_clean-rvs-water.html>

"Fill the tank with 5 to 6 oz. (2/3 c. to 3/4 c.)
bleach per 10 gallons of water."

<http://www.caravansforhire.com/sewer.htm>

"Next add back about 15 gallons of weak bleach solution"

<http://rvbasics.com/techtips/fwtanksan.html>

"Dilute 1/4 cup of household bleach for each 15 gallons of
tank capacity in a gallon of water."

<http://www.ecampsite.com/resources/rvhookup/freshwatersystem.php>

"Take a quarter cup of house hold bleach for every fifteen gallons
of water that your fresh water tank holds."

That is only the first four of 36,200 Google hits using "bleach" "RV" (with
quotes) as search criteria.

> 'One cup in 40 gallons' sounds pretty weak to sterilize a
> possible scum corrupted neglected water system.

Not really.  Given my citations (and numerous others), it is clear that it
doesn't take much bleach to do the job.  Municipal water systems figured that
out a LONG time ago.

> Even one whole gallon in 40 of 5% NaHClO3 will yield only a .125% mixture.

Agreed.  It doesn't take much.

> That mix, plus flushing it out anyway won't hurt the rubber washers.

While I tend to agree, there is no NEED to take that chance with an
unnecessarily high concentration of bleach.

JR
 
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