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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / June 2005

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Dodge Sprinter chassis?

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L'l John - 05 Jun 2005 23:28 GMT
I have been researching the Class B motorhomes built on the Sprinter
Chassis. I see where the horsepower is listed at 154 hp with 243 FT./LB @
1600-2400 rpm.
The towing capacity is rated at 5000 LBS. Will this low rated HP & Torque
actually tow a Honda CRV that weigh about 3600 LBS.?
There is one built on a Ford Chassis with  the 5.4 L Triton SEFI V8 Engine.
It is listed to have 255 HP with 350 FT./LB @ 2500 RPM. Obviously, this one
will surely out pull the previous one I asked about. By the way, the tow
capacity is rated the same. Or am I missing something here?
What is the advantage with the Sprinter over the Ford other that the fact
that it should get better mileage, but costs about 15,000 to 20,000 more $.?
Thanks,
   John
Nexus7 - 07 Jun 2005 02:36 GMT
> What is the advantage with the Sprinter over the Ford other that the fact
> that it should get better mileage, but costs about 15,000 to 20,000 more $.?

The Sprinter-based RVs are supposed to handle better and be
better-built, although the mpg and longevity of the diesel are the big
factors. You can head on over to http://www.openroadsforum.com/forum/
and check out the "Camper Van Conversions" forum. There have been many
threads on this very topic.
Jim - 07 Jun 2005 13:53 GMT
I'm sure the Sprinter-based B's are very nice, tho' I have the
impression that some of the early conversions were rushed thru design
and build to catch the early market.

Folks considering them should be aware that the US offerings are
limited so far to a propane genset.  The more limited run-time and fuel
availability may or may not matter to you.

Jim, "If you drink, don't park.  Accidents cause people."

 
CruzMastr - 07 Jun 2005 21:54 GMT
Yes you are missing something when you read "tow capacity" claims and
apparently believe they actually mean anything in the real world. As far as
brute HP and torque, your garden tractor will tow the largest trailer
available - just not very capably and certainly not very fast up hill. Like
all vehicles, ignore tow capacity ratings (aka advertising fantasies) and
look at GVWR, GCWR, GAWRs and tongue load ratings for the vehicle. Then get
a real weight on the van fully equipped, fully loaded and ready for the
road. I suspect you'll find the finished RV version will have a tow capacity
substantially less that 5000#. As far as the truck itself, IMO they look
extremely crude overall. The rear door hinges look like something found at
Menard's for farm gates and welded on the surface. Looks like someone
remembered too late that the doors actually needed to open. As someone
mentioned, the early versions were obviously rushed out to make the late
winter and early spring RV shows. All the ones I saw had very basic, very
crude OEM cab with rubber floor mats and rigid very delivery truck-like
front seats plus cheapo seat cover material, ceiling and door panels. The
commercial versions I've seen on the Interstates do not inspire confidence
in their handling. Again, all that I've seen wander, weave and rock
dramatically even in 10 mph cross winds. Lane changes are frightening to
watch and when a semi passes one I stay way back and ready to take evasive
action. I'd look at RVs based on the more conventional chassis' and wait
until there's more history on these vehicles as bases for RVs. They will
either get better or go away.

CruzMastr

> I have been researching the Class B motorhomes built on the Sprinter
> Chassis. I see where the horsepower is listed at 154 hp with 243 FT./LB @
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> Thanks,
>     John
Anonymous - 07 Jun 2005 22:34 GMT
I have owned one of these Sprinter based Pleasure Ways for over two months,
and have experienced nothing like this post says. On the contrary, coming
from a non-Sprinter based unit, this unit has the best handling of any RV
that I have owned and driven (includes class C's, A's and smaller B's). This
past weekend we had the highest winds (gusts of 70 mph) and we drove for
several hours and marveled at the handling. Watch out for those posts that
make claims without actually driving one of these incredibly good units.
They have the best cruise control I have experienced before also, by the
way.

As far as the inside look, I agree that these units don't look luxurious
inside; their luxury is in the practicality of their design. The priveous
one we had had carpeting and other luxurious touches in the cab area that we
were constantly fighting to keep clean and to keep from hitting with our
heads. Our seats are great, leather covering and with incredible range of
adjustment, albeit manual controls. Coming in with feet full of sand after
dumping is now not as dreadful a thing as it was in the past...  Al

> Yes you are missing something when you read "tow capacity" claims and
> apparently believe they actually mean anything in the real world. As far
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>> Thanks,
>>     John
Nexus7 - 09 Jun 2005 17:29 GMT
> road. I suspect you'll find the finished RV version will have a tow capacity
> substantially less that 5000#.

Which is true of any conversion on any chassis.

> The rear door hinges look like something found at
> Menard's for farm gates and welded on the surface. Looks like someone
> remembered too late that the doors actually needed to open.

Actually they did. The hinges are that way so that the doors can open
270 degrees, that is, fold flat against the sides of the van.
 
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