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Georgia Studebaker - 01 Jul 2005 22:02 GMT
I'd like to get the group's opinion on the best RVs
a newbie like myself might consider for his first foray
into RVing.

I consider the Chevy Impala, the Toyota Camry, and the
Ford Crown Vic about the best cars around for overall
cost efficiency, dependability, ease and low cost of repair.

Given these parameters, what would be the RV equivalents,
if there are some, in the travel trailer and motorhome world?

Could one figure that Winnebago would come close? They
certainly seem to sell the most vehicles, and if they suck, people
wouldn't buy them, right?

I am thinking about small to medium sized units, nothing opulent.

Cheers!

Dave Miller
Webmaster & Chaplain
So. Ga. StudebakerDriversClub
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Hunter - 01 Jul 2005 21:53 GMT
>Could one figure that Winnebago would come close?

Yes, if you are talking motorhomes Winnebago is a good choice.

Hunter
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but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!"
Dave in Lake Villa - 02 Jul 2005 13:58 GMT
'Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting
"...holy sh.t...what a ride!"'

Reply:  But Jesus Christ said :  " There seems a way which is right to a
man , but it ends in eternal death (hell) "

" Enter thru the narrow gate that leads to eternal life, and not thru
the wide gate which leads to hell"

"I am the way, the truth, and the life  ; no one will get to heaven
except thru me"

Getting all you can out of this life thru experiences, gaining material
goods, and all sorts of pleasure....wont count once we close our eyes to
this short life ;  what will matter then, is did we put the Creator
first in our lives instead of making ourselves 'god' .   Peace.
dave is STILL an idiot - 02 Jul 2005 16:47 GMT
There you go again, dave, you uneducated fundy a.shole, preaching your
creationist crap to people who don't give a sh.t about what you
think..f.ck off and die
Dr Hal0nfireS - 03 Jul 2005 00:40 GMT
>> There you go again, dave, you uneducated fundy a.shole, preaching
>> your creationist crap to people who don't give a sh.t about what you
>> think..f.ck off and die

Don't miss dave posting in news:rec.outdoors.rv-travel

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dave is STILL an idiot - 03 Jul 2005 05:16 GMT
rv-travel------where all the truely inbred rv'ers hang
HeatMan - 02 Jul 2005 21:47 GMT
This tripe, coming from the person that said  is preaching now?  If you have
reformed Dave, that's a good thing.  Part of accepting the Lord into your
life is apologizing to people you have wronged.  Have you?
'im a single male no children but did lose one to God many years ago im
a christian but have recently found myself fighting with homesexual
demons in my mind i am around children often and worry about my feelings
for them too id like someone other than my minister to discuss this
situation wioth
dave>>>' is preaching now?  If you have reformed Dave, that's a good thing.
Part of accepting the Lord into your life is apologizing to people you have
wronged.  Have you apologized?

> 'Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved
> body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> this short life ;  what will matter then, is did we put the Creator
> first in our lives instead of making ourselves 'god' .   Peace.
Dr Hal0nfireS - 03 Jul 2005 00:35 GMT
>> This tripe, coming from the person that said  is preaching now?  If
>> you have reformed Dave, that's a good thing.  Part of accepting the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> thing. Part of accepting the Lord into your life is apologizing to
>> people you have wronged.  Have you apologized?

Dave "The Freak" should apologise for existing.

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Dave in Lake Villa - 05 Jul 2005 00:14 GMT
'Getting all you can out of this life thru experiences, gaining material
goods, and all sorts of pleasure....wont count once we close our eyes to
this short life ; what will matter then, is did we put the Creator first
in our lives instead of making ourselves 'god' .   Peace.'

..and P.S. :  Rebellion against ones own Creator comes in the form of
passiveness and overtness ;  many people (only before they die of
course...) are pretty brave and dont mind saying what they think of The
Creator so they live thier life apart from his love and principles. In
doing so, they just heap extra distance for all of eternity between
themselves and thier Creator. God grants the amount of distance sought
while here on earth , for all of eternity. Simply put : You make your
own bed.  So make it wisely cause you must sleep in it for a very long
time to come.
Dr Hal0nfireS - 07 Jul 2005 23:18 GMT
Simply
> put : You make your own bed.

...But most of us don't sleep wit 9-year-old boys.

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R & A - 01 Jul 2005 22:21 GMT
> I'd like to get the group's opinion on the best RVs
> a newbie like myself might consider for his first foray
> into RVing.

<snip>

> I am thinking about small to medium sized units, nothing opulent.
>
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> So. Ga. StudebakerDriversClub
> http://www.georgiastudebaker.com

   Dave, you would do well to investigate the RVCG (RV Consumer Group) at:
www.rv.org.
And whatever else you do, get a Pre-trip inspections by a reputable dealer.
Then, if you wish to discover even more about RVing, here are some other
URLs for you...

                   http://www.rvsafety.com/ForNewbies.htm

                   http://www.rvsafety.com/thinking.htm

                   http://www.rvsafety.com/considerate.htm

                   http://www.rvsafety.com/PetOwners.htm

   Now that you've formally begun your education <g>, you'd best be
prepared to have fun.  Oh yeah...
ONE other THING...Happy Travelin'.
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Rich - 01 Jul 2005 22:42 GMT
>I'd like to get the group's opinion on the best RVs
>a newbie like myself might consider for his first foray
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>So. Ga. StudebakerDriversClub
>http://www.georgiastudebaker.com

everyone builds a lemon.  repeat that often.   everyone has an
opinion.  repeat that just as often.  

that being said, we've owned 2 winnebago industries class a units over
the past 20 years and, apart from some minor issues, have had a very
positive experience.   our first was a 26' winnebago chieftain...our
current unit is an itasca suncruiser 35U.  we had a problem with some
of the fiberglass 'popping' out (small pops the size of an pencil
eraser) last year.  the vehicle was out of warranty.  winnebago's
response?  they replaced, at no cost to me, both side walls.  and i
mean both side walls..nose to tail.  they even re-mounted my radio
antenna mounts for me.  sure, i had to deliever the MH to them and
then pick it up.  but it was worth the trip.

73,
rich, n9dko  
the other Daryl - 02 Jul 2005 02:05 GMT
> I'd like to get the group's opinion on the best RVs
> a newbie like myself might consider for his first foray
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> So. Ga. StudebakerDriversClub
> http://www.georgiastudebaker.com

I'm not sure anyone will second this opinion but Newmar apears to be a
good to excellent manufacturer although not the cheapest.
SteveB - 02 Jul 2005 02:52 GMT
>> I'd like to get the group's opinion on the best RVs
>> a newbie like myself might consider for his first foray
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> I'm not sure anyone will second this opinion but Newmar apears to be a
> good to excellent manufacturer although not the cheapest.

I own a '96 Newmar Mountain Aire 38 footer.  With the exception of the Ford
tranny, which we got changed yesterday after 950 miles from having it
changed the last time, I am enthralled with it.  I think the tranny might be
an aberration, as I have not heard of a lot of owners having trouble with
that tranny.

I love the fact that I can sit and converse at 65 mph, the sound level is so
low.  The cabinets are not creeking and cheeping like a thousand blackbirds
on LSD.  The wind isn't howling.  Insulation is good.  Fabrics are lasting.
Appliances are top notch.

The cabinetry is superb.  Everything is tight.  In other MHs I have had,
cabinetry was something you put up with, and adapted with magnets, bungee
cords, rubberbands, improvisations, and 16d nails.

There are a couple of things that are not 100%, but pretty good.  We bought
this two years ago for $49k, and it is worth at least that today.  The last
owner lost $67k in depreciation in seven years.

If you are new to motorhoming, do your homework.  Buy used instead of taking
a depreciation beating.  And if you want to trade out or up, you don't take
a loss.  You will learn with every one.  There is no perfect MH, and getting
what you want the first time is impossible, even if you have it custom made,
I believe.  You just have to live in it a while and find the warts.

Motors, drivetrains, and frames are the hidden component.  Do your homework
there, too.

The best motorhome?  IMHO, it is the one that gets you on the road the most!

Steve
tat-2 - 02 Jul 2005 06:06 GMT
>>> I'd like to get the group's opinion on the best RVs
>>> a newbie like myself might consider for his first foray
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
>
> Steve

I agree with a used unit but, don't get one that it so used that you won't
enjoy it.
I'm 33 and I have been camping all of my life in tents. I bought a used
pop-up when I was 24. I paid $800 for it. It needed work but I was confident
that I could handle it. I repaired the roof, replaced the icebox with a
fridge and added an extra 120V outlet. I sold it for $750 (with new wheels,
tires and hubs).
I decided I wanted and RV. So, I started looking at different models and
different years. Originally, I had a limit of $15K absolute max. I looked at
various units in the $10-13K range. I didn't like what I was getting for
that amount of money and I know that there were some repairs that I could
not do. I went to a dealer to look at one that was listed for $15K and it
had been sold. It was ok but definitly had more wear on it then I wanted. I
ended up purchasing a used 1997 27' Fleetwood Tioga Montara with a little
less then 15K miles for $26K out the door. It was immaculate inside and
minor scapres on the outside. Tires were newer and tha paint actually
shined.

Hope this helps. Btw I use mine about every other week or so for 3-4 nights
a week.

Ed
SteveB - 02 Jul 2005 06:56 GMT
"tat-2" <tat-2@rcn.com> wrote
I
> ended up purchasing a used 1997 27' Fleetwood Tioga Montara with a little
> less then 15K miles for $26K out the door. It was immaculate inside and
> minor scapres on the outside. Tires were newer and tha paint actually
> shined.
>
>Ed

There are some real deals out there.  Especially now with high gas prices.
You just have to watch, have money and be ready to move on a deal, and do
yer homework so you know what yer looking at.  Lots of low mileage deals
................

Steve
LB@notmine.com - 02 Jul 2005 10:48 GMT
> "tat-2" <tat-2@rcn.com> wrote
>  I
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Steve

Ah but deciding what type to get is the rub for a newbie.  So many things to
consider.  And how does one get feel of what it is like to drive a vehicle
pulling a 5ver or TT or driving a MH of some class (I still get the classes
confused).

LB
Me - 05 Jul 2005 01:17 GMT
And how does one get feel of what it is like to drive a vehicle
>pulling a 5ver or TT or driving a MH of some class (I still get the classes
>confused).
>
>LB

That is something I've wondered.  Do dealers just let you take them
for a spin like cars, or do you have to buy it first then decide if
you like the way it drives?

Ronnie
RVC - 05 Jul 2005 14:25 GMT
> I'd like to get the group's opinion on the best RVs
> a newbie like myself might consider for his first foray
> into RVing.
>
> ....

If you are looking for a Class C, you should consider Lazy Daze (NOT the
dealer Lazy Days in Tampa,FL).  Some consider it the best Class C built.

You should consider viewing this site for information:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lifewithalazydazerv/

Do a google search for the Lazy Daze website.  They do not sell to dealers
and you can expect to wait 5-9 months after you place an order.  They ain't
cheap, but worth the wait and cost,  IMO.

RVC, USMC (Ret)
 
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