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Wally-Docking in Canada??

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FishWisher - 10 Jul 2005 23:40 GMT
We are planning to go north into Saskatchewan, Canada and then west to
British Columbia in August. Can anyone advise re Wal-Mart's and Canada's
policies about parking in their lots overnight there? Are there other such
open lot policies in Canada? Or does Canada have their usual restrictive
laws extending even to Sam's invitation to stay at his place? Any
knowledgeable advice most appreciated.

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Ron - 11 Jul 2005 00:09 GMT
> We are planning to go north into Saskatchewan, Canada and then west to
> British Columbia in August. Can anyone advise re Wal-Mart's and Canada's
> policies about parking in their lots overnight there? Are there other such
> open lot policies in Canada? Or does Canada have their usual restrictive
> laws extending even to Sam's invitation to stay at his place? Any
> knowledgeable advice most appreciated.

As far as I know, Wal-Mart Canada allows staying overnight the same as in
the U.S.A.
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Ron P

It isn't the fall that hurts:)

It's the sudden stop:(

MOMPEAGRAM - 11 Jul 2005 16:15 GMT
>> We are planning to go north into Saskatchewan, Canada and then west to
>> British Columbia in August. Can anyone advise re Wal-Mart's and Canada's
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> As far as I know, Wal-Mart Canada allows staying overnight the same as in
> the U.S.A.
Except in Nova Scotia, so I hear.
geek - 11 Jul 2005 00:58 GMT
The only difference in Canada VS the Excited States is that a lot of
Wal-Marts here are attached to a mall and sometimes the mall tries to stop
it.

Wal-Marts have started to move out of the malls and build their own stores.
You see a lot of WallyDockers every night at the one by our place in
Calgary, Alberta.

Just look around for other people before you settle in for the night

BTW - We really do not appreciate your slam about restrictive laws.

> We are planning to go north into Saskatchewan, Canada and then west to
> British Columbia in August. Can anyone advise re Wal-Mart's and Canada's
> policies about parking in their lots overnight there? Are there other such
> open lot policies in Canada? Or does Canada have their usual restrictive
> laws extending even to Sam's invitation to stay at his place? Any
> knowledgeable advice most appreciated.
birch999@hotmail.com - 11 Jul 2005 01:14 GMT
>We are planning to go north into Saskatchewan, Canada and then west to
>British Columbia in August. Can anyone advise re Wal-Mart's and Canada's
>policies about parking in their lots overnight there? Are there other such
>open lot policies in Canada? Or does Canada have their usual restrictive
>laws extending even to Sam's invitation to stay at his place? Any
>knowledgeable advice most appreciated.

I don't know anything about Canada's "usual restrictive laws"; but you
can overnight at *any* Wal-Mart in Canada, with the exception of Nova
Scotia. The Government of Nova Scotia and the Nova Scotia Campground
Owners Association have pushed through laws prohibiting parking of a
recreational vehicle at night, *anywhere* other than in a licenced
commercial campground.

While the Wal-Mart in Victoria, BC has a 3 hour parking limit posted,
they won't kick RVers out; but their lot is so small and cramped, you
probably wouldn't want take an RV in there anyway. Lots of parking
available at the cruise ship docks though.

Alberta and British Columbia have more free dump stations than any other
area in North America.

If you intend to extend your trip to Alaska, virtually every shopping
mall in the entire state is posted "No Overnight RV Parking", including
every Wal-Mart.
Tom  J - 11 Jul 2005 01:22 GMT
>  Are there other such open lot policies in Canada? Or does Canada
> have their usual restrictive laws extending even to Sam's invitation
> to stay at his place

Where and what USUAL RESTRICTIVE LAWS?  Compared to what?

I really don't think you'd be welcome in Canada, home to some of the
most friendly people on earth.

Tom J
who has RV'd in every Province & never encountered "usual restrictive
laws"
BillyGoat - 11 Jul 2005 18:30 GMT
I just spent some time in western Canada, B.C, AB, SK, and MB.  Its pretty
much the same as in the lower 48.  Only saw one Wallys with a sign
prohibiting it.  It was a weird sign too, had to read it a couple of times
to figure out what it as saying.  Starting out by saying no cars for sale
and later referenced no over night parking.
bill

> We are planning to go north into Saskatchewan, Canada and then west to
> British Columbia in August. Can anyone advise re Wal-Mart's and Canada's
> policies about parking in their lots overnight there? Are there other such
> open lot policies in Canada? Or does Canada have their usual restrictive
> laws extending even to Sam's invitation to stay at his place? Any
> knowledgeable advice most appreciated.
birch999@hotmail.com - 11 Jul 2005 20:55 GMT
>I just spent some time in western Canada, B.C, AB, SK, and MB.  Its pretty
>much the same as in the lower 48.  Only saw one Wallys with a sign
>prohibiting it.  It was a weird sign too, had to read it a couple of times
>to figure out what it as saying.  Starting out by saying no cars for sale
>and later referenced no over night parking.

That entire scenario has nothing whatsoever to do with overnight parking
for RVs. On more than one occasion, we've inquired as to whether the "No
Overnight Parking" sign applied to RVs; and each and every time, we've
been welcomed with unexpected enthusiasm!  So . .  when in doubt ask.

As for the "No Cars for Sale" thing; this is more of a USA small-town
south-west community phenomena; where the community utilizes a
continuous row or two of Wal-Mart parking space as some sort of
consignment used car lot, not to mention the boats-on-trailers crowd!

Wonder what ever happened to the original poster, Fishmonger; and his
gratuitous acidic missiles directed at the "usual restrictive laws"
Canadian Laws. When asked to expand, he never responded.

While none of us on this NG have ever before heard of fishmonger, I
would be inclined to believe that his disenchantment with "usual
[Canadian] restrictive laws" might very well present a threat to his
passion for child pornography and all that sort of stuff.

Stan Birch
Newmarket, Ontario
FishWisher - 12 Jul 2005 02:26 GMT
> Wonder what ever happened to the original poster, Fishmonger; and his
> gratuitous acidic missiles directed at the "usual restrictive laws"
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> Stan Birch
> Newmarket, Ontario

It's FishWisher, cutie, not Fishmonger. Perhaps the hair on your palms and
the blindness from your favorite pastime caused the error?

I've never been to Canada, never known much about Canadian law, but used the
hated phrase because of what I have read on the 'net about gun confiscation,
lack of medical choice, forbidden speech, the arrangement between government
and RV parks in Nova Scotia, etc, etc, in Canada. If those laws are not
restrictive, what would you possibly call them? Those are not issues I've
ever dealt with here in the USA.  So with those restrictions getting the
publicity they have, it doesn't seem so far fetched to ask about other
restrictive laws. I'd hazard a guess that the $3.50+ per gallon gas is due
to much higher taxation there, but I'm not sure of that. If so, I'd consider
such taxation restrictive, too.

No, you've never heard of FishMonger. That's true. Perhaps he does enjoy
little kids. But FishWisher doesn't do kids. And if you ever made make such
a stupid comment to me in person, and I doubt that you would, you'd say it
only once. You are the typical internet blowhard, Stan, and I sure hope you
don't represent the general populace of Canada.
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GeoffP - 12 Jul 2005 03:19 GMT
>> While none of us on this NG have ever before heard of fishmonger, I
>> would be inclined to believe that his disenchantment with "usual
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> It's FishWisher, cutie, not Fishmonger. Perhaps the hair on your palms and
> the blindness from your favorite pastime caused the error?

It's not me you are replying to but you really shouldn't  make inflamatory
remarks strictly on what you read on the web.

> I've never been to Canada, never known much about Canadian law, but used
> the hated phrase because of what I have read on the 'net about gun
> confiscation,
Me:
Good idea. Don't be paronoid. :-)

> lack of medical choice,
Me:
It's free though for everyone. Better than some US citizens with none.

>forbidden speech,
Me:
What forbidden speach LOL.

> the arrangement between government and RV parks in Nova Scotia, etc, etc,
> in Canada.
Me:
You never heard of US lobbyists?

> If those laws are not restrictive, what would you possibly call them?
Me:
Enlightened and not wallowing in the 19 century.

>Those are not issues I've ever dealt with here in the USA.  So with those
>restrictions getting the publicity they have, it doesn't seem so far
>fetched to ask about other restrictive laws. I'd hazard a guess that the
>$3.50+ per gallon gas is due to much higher taxation there, but I'm not
>sure of that. If so, I'd consider such taxation restrictive, too.
Me:
$3.50? I paid $.87 per litre today. I Think that works out to about 2.54 US
Diesel was about $2.40 US. Expensive ? Yes for sure, but I only know of
one toll road in Ontario.

You know Guy? The USA is a great Country to live in. But, when you
Guys try so hard to make it look better by putting everyone else down
it makes you look as if "You" don't really believe it. :-)
Canada is also a great Country to live in, but I don't usually feel the need
to keep saying it.
> Dale Gillespie

Geoff.
Me again:
Oh and BTW.. It doesn't really grow hair on your palms or make
you blind you know. VBG.
FishWisher - 12 Jul 2005 04:32 GMT
Jeffy, m'boy,

If you think socialized medicine is free, you have a lot more thinking on
the matter to do!

But I think the rash of angry responses to my mentioning Canada's
restrictions says a lot more than all the comments my post has garnered. Me
thinks thou doth protest too much!

But hey, if I visit, I'll have a lot better take on how things are up there
in Canada. So far, there seems to be an awful lot of very touchy folks.

Enough of this petty bickering. I believe I'll go fishing!

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>
>>> While none of us on this NG have ever before heard of fishmonger, I
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
> Oh and BTW.. It doesn't really grow hair on your palms or make
> you blind you know. VBG.
Wade - 18 Jul 2005 23:10 GMT
>> Wonder what ever happened to the original poster, Fishmonger; and his
>> gratuitous acidic missiles directed at the "usual restrictive laws"
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> say it only once. You are the typical internet blowhard, Stan, and I sure
> hope you don't represent the general populace of Canada.
The net has to be your best source of accurate news. OTOH you are possibly
one of the most ignorant posters from south of the border, considering you
are from California that has more restrictive, goofy and moronic laws per
sq. mile the any other jurisdiction  anywhere in North America incl. Mexico.
When you site this restrictions you must be thinking of the US, we can go to
any medical provider we choose, and all decisions are made by the attending
Physician for my care. How would that compare to your plan, where you must
go to certain providers or selected facilities or you could be liable for
part of the cost, and wait for some pimple faced kid to give approval for
your care. You might also like to examine your own backyard where most of
Florida is off limits as well as many in So. California for no overnight
parking. And I just know what you have been waiting for, about the guns,
name one sovereign country that would let foreigners enter with guns.
Wade
canoli@sbcglobal.net - 19 Jul 2005 04:00 GMT
>When you site this restrictions you must be thinking of the US, we can go to
>any medical provider we choose, and all decisions are made by the attending
>Physician for my care. How would that compare to your plan, where you must
>go to certain providers or selected facilities or you could be liable for
>part of the cost, and wait for some pimple faced kid to give approval for
>your care?

Don't know why you have such an ill-considered opinion of health care
here, but I'm typical of my generation, and can go to any doctor or
medical facility anywhere in the country, get any procedure needed
from clipped toenails to open heart surgery, and pay absolutely
nothing.  And unlike Canada, I don't get placed on a long waiting list
for what are considered to be common procedures in this country.

You might also like to examine your own backyard where most of
>Florida is off limits as well as many in So. California for no overnight
>parking.

About forty years ago I lived in the Florida Keys, which was infested
with campers and RVs setting up anywhere they pleased, using bushes
for bathrooms, and leaving garbage everywhere.  The overwhelming
majority had Canadian license plates.  It got so bad, public
complaints forced the county commissioners to pass no overnighting
outside of campground regulations.

The anti-overnighting regulations throughout South Florida are based
on the same response to unfettered camping by RVs. Can you imagine
what the WM lots would look like without these ordinances?  There
wouldn't be room enough left for store customers to park.

Southern California, where I am now, is crowded to the max, but has
dozens of campgrounds and space is always available somewhere. If
unregulated parking was allowed, the streets would be jammed with
tourists of the same caliber as I once saw in the Keys.  

While Canadians have a reputation for extreme thriftiness ( did I say
cheap? ), we have the same type of RVers here, planning their driving
days from the WM they're at to the next WM or other free camping spot
along the way. That's fine, if that's how their minds work but there
is no godgiven right to park feel wherever you like.

And I just know what you have been waiting for, about the guns,
>name one sovereign country that would let foreigners enter with guns.
>Wade

For gun discussions, contact Bill Horne: you might not learn anything
new, but you'll get an up close and personal view of a gun enthusiast
at work.

Canoli
canoli@sbcglobal.net - 19 Jul 2005 04:50 GMT
That's fine, if that's how their minds work but there
>is no godgiven right to park feel wherever you like.

To park "free" obviously. That second glass of wine gets me every
time.

Canoli
OsiTech.Net - 19 Jul 2005 12:43 GMT
"Southern California, where I am now, is crowded to the max"

I don't know about that. There are still open spaces. Maybe not in Compton
or Reseda but once you get out into Hesperia, Apple Valley, Mentone, etc
it's till wide open. I mean for crying  out loud, there's empty dessert all
the way from Victorville to Stateline.

"there is no godgiven right to park feel wherever you like"

I disagree. Every where is god given right place to set up camp unless it's
outlawed.

(I could have sniped off the rest of the rant below, but chose to live it
for the nitwits bandwidth Nazis surfing the web/newsgroup from there
pathetic cellphones).

>>When you site this restrictions you must be thinking of the US, we can go
>>to
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>
> Canoli
Wade - 19 Jul 2005 17:58 GMT
>>When you site this restrictions you must be thinking of the US, we can go
>>to
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Canoli

I think it is wonderful that you have that kind of coverage, and so you
should, OTOH there are millions that have no coverage, many times because of
job losses or other economic circumstances; will they get on any waiting
lists? Now myself I would sooner have to wait for non-emergency care and be
able to see the light at the end of the tunnel as opposed to never seeing
the light. OTOH, I can assure you that when my wife was in need of care see
was admitted to the hospital in the afternoon and on the operating table
first thing in the morning, and I do know that somebody with his ingrown
toenail most likely was placed on hold. And as for firearms we both are
seasoned travelers, and are well aware of other country's no tolerance
policies without having to consult Bill Horne, come to think of, you don't
have to go abroad for that just go to places like Detroit, New York or
Massachusetts and most likely 1000's more. In addition, as for being down on
your system lets just say it would not be my first choice. OTOh, I also
recall Bob Giddings requiring surgery and intensive care, and I do not
recall him having to wait at all in spite that as none citizen he would had
to wait if the operating room was fully booked in favor of patients that are
covered under the health plan.
Wade
CoachPotato@comcast.net - 20 Jul 2005 05:37 GMT
Laws per square mile? Huh?

What the hell has California law got to do with my questions about Canadian
restrictions? Sheesh. I mention one time about Canadian restrictions and the
moaning and bitching hasn't stopped since. You folks really do protest too
much!

Now if you'd like to make the charge that the US (and especially California)
has a lot of restrictions, I'd readily agree. But even here in the nutty
People's Republic of California I can own a gun, I don't depend on Big
Brother for medical care and I am not required to park my RV in an RV park.
And if, Lord forbid, I'm inclined to make a hate speech some day, I won't
wind up in jail for it.

Why don't you and Stanley take some time off and go fishing together? You
both need to unwind a bit. Relax, buy a six-pack, find a bit of shade on the
riverbank and breath deeply a few times. Ahhhhhh. That's better, eh?
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>
>>> Wonder what ever happened to the original poster, Fishmonger; and his
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> name one sovereign country that would let foreigners enter with guns.
> Wade
Ken Harrison - 20 Jul 2005 09:18 GMT
> But even here in the nutty
> People's Republic of California I can own a gun,

What a benefit!  Many people (subconsciously) think that ownership of a
gun is a suitable substitute for an adequate sex life.  At least the
barrel is hard!

 I don't depend on Big
> Brother for medical care and I am not required to park my RV in an RV park.

You can, of course, park wherever you like.  WHERE you park is most
likely a testament to your taste respecting the quality of life.

> And if, Lord forbid, I'm inclined to make a hate speech some day, I won't
> wind up in jail for it.

The USA Patriot Act (decidedly un-patriotic) will probably change your
mind about that statement.  And why, for heaven's sake, would she (the
lord) even care about what you say?

KH
CoachPotato@comcast.net - 20 Jul 2005 13:26 GMT
Kenneth responds:
What a benefit!  Many people (subconsciously) think that ownership of a
gun is a suitable substitute for an adequate sex life.  At least the
barrel is hard!

Ken, try to stay on topic here. I'm an American. I can own a gun. You're a
Canadian.You can't. You're doing your best to make excuses. There is no
excuse for giving up the inalienable right to defend yourself, your family
and your property. Nor is there any excuse for your government to take that
right. Period. You don't know diddly about my sex life, nor does my sex life
have anything to do with owning a gun. Really. Now, can't you do better'n
that? You really reached for that one, didn't you?

Kenneth responds some more:
You can, of course, park wherever you like.  WHERE you park is most
likely a testament to your taste respecting the quality of life.

Where I park is the issue, Ken. It doesn't matter that my choices may or may
not win your approval. As restricted and over-regulated as I am here in
California, I still have choices that some of you Canadians no longer have.
And, Ken, you are not dealing well with that fact.

And more sputtering from Kenneth:
The USA Patriot Act (decidedly un-patriotic) will probably change your
mind about that statement.  And why, for heaven's sake, would she (the
lord) even care about what you say?

Dear Kenneth,
You just refuse to stay on topic! The issue isn't the Patriot Act. It is the
fact that you have restrictions in Canada on speech that I don't have even
in California - the Patriot Act notwithstanding. Nor is the issue whether
anyone would listen to what I might have to say. The issue is that I have
the freedom to make that speech even here in goofy, star-crossed California.
In Canada you have lost that freedom.

I can freely admit that California is getting too onerous with its
regulations of how I live my life. So I'm trying to talk wifey into moving
to Texas or some other southern state where freedom isn't so restricted. But
wifey doesn't want to move. Yet.

Where can you move in Canada to find more freedom? I don't think Texas quite
reaches Canada.

I suggest that you Canadians defend your freedoms with the same vigor that
you defend losing those freedoms!
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>> But even here in the nutty People's Republic of California I can own a
>> gun,
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>
> KH
GeoffP - 20 Jul 2005 14:18 GMT
> Ken, try to stay on topic here. I'm an American. I can own a gun. You're a
> Canadian.You can't. You're doing your best to make excuses. There is no
> excuse for giving up the inalienable right to defend yourself, your family
> and your property. Nor is there any excuse for your government to take
> that right. Period. ==
Hi Dale, You probably don't realize that Canadians don't consider that being
able to own a handgun is a freedom. If I lived in the States I would have a
gun also. I would need one to defend myself from all the people who walk
around armed to the teeth as if they were living in the 1800's.
All countries sacrifice some freedoms in order to be a civilized community.
You mentioned Canadian anti hate laws. Do you think it is a good thing that
in the States anyone can preach hatred? I can stand up and say I think our
government is bad, and have no problem. But I can't preach hatred. I have
not lost my freedom to talk because of that. Even you Dale in the US have to
deal with hundreds of things in daily life that restrict your freedom.
Licenses, permits, taxes, speed limits etc, etc. You are considered mature
and intelligent enough to carry around a loaded weapon that can kill in a
second. But! you can't make a decision on how fast you may drive or how much
booze you may drink or where you may park. Sounds ridiculous Right?
People in glass houses?
Geoff.
Hunter - 20 Jul 2005 15:39 GMT
>Hi Dale, You probably don't realize that Canadians don't consider that being
>able to own a handgun is a freedom. If I lived in the States I would have a
>gun also.

I live in the states and have been gun free for 5.5 years and I've
lived to tell about it.

Hunter
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!"
GeoffP - 20 Jul 2005 16:41 GMT
>>Hi Dale, You probably don't realize that Canadians don't consider that
>>being
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy
> sh.t...what a ride!"
===
Good for you Hunter. Don't you ever worry though that so many are armed?
Geoff.
Ken Harrison - 21 Jul 2005 04:18 GMT
> Good for you Hunter. Don't you ever worry though that so many are armed?
> Geoff.

I certainly do, and owning a gun wouldn't do anything to improve my
chances.  Years of studies and collection of statistics prove that
family members are the most likely to be injured or killed when there is
a gun in the house.

Guns don't kill people.  People with guns kill people (to paraphrase a
ridiculous argument).

KH
SteveB - 21 Jul 2005 05:46 GMT
>> Good for you Hunter. Don't you ever worry though that so many are armed?
>> Geoff.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> KH

Have you ever been in a life threatening situation?

Steve
Ken Harrison - 21 Jul 2005 08:11 GMT
> Have you ever been in a life threatening situation?

So the advantage of having a gun is that instead of one person being in
a life threatening situation, two are?  Or maybe more if there are
others in the area?

Most killings using a gun (in the US) are the result of family arguments
or kids getting hold of a gun.  Family values?  Not in my family!

KH
Mark Tetrault - 21 Jul 2005 11:58 GMT
>> Have you ever been in a life threatening situation?
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>KH

I would really like to see your source for this statement. Or are you
just repeating more gun hating urban legands?

Mark
Patron NRA member
SteveB - 21 Jul 2005 14:44 GMT
>> Have you ever been in a life threatening situation?
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> KH

Can't answer a simple question, huh?

A liberal is a conservative that hasn't been mugged or sodomized yet.

And your point goes out the window when you won't have a discourse.  We talk
back and forth.  But, if all that is involved is you speaking, and me
listening, that is not discourse.

It is like the time I didn't talk to my ex-wife for 17 months when we were
married.  She didn't like to be interrupted.

Bye, bozo.

Plonk.

Steve
CoachPotato@comcast.net - 21 Jul 2005 18:26 GMT
Steve,

Gun control (confiscation of handguns and confiscation of the inalienable
right to self-defense) has been accepted and even embraced (it seems) in
Kenneth's country (Denial). Ever since the dawning of this utopian wonder,
everyone has gotten nicer. Nobody has to shoot rapists, robbers, murderers
or home invaders because in this new Utopia everybody abides by the law.
Hopefully. Or, in Kenneth's view, he'd rather die alone and let the bad guy
walk than to shoot first. And he's entitled to that philosophy. So be it.

Here in our country (Reality) we've learned the hard way that bad people
learn to behave when they don't know who might be packing a gun. Barging
into my RV in the middle of the night in California *might* get you shot.
*Might* is a magic word that has influence with the bad guys. If I park my
RV on the lot of a Canadian store, I *probably* won't be armed. But, of
course, I won't have to be armed. Remember, people in the land of Denial are
nicer.

Obviously, Kenneth cannot understand the value of putting the bad guy and
the good guy both in a life threatening situation instead of just the good
guy. He'd rather be a dead good guy and not hurt the bad guy. Fortunately,
his lack of understanding of the real world does not negate the value of a
balanced threat. Instead, he will have the pleasure of quickly dialing 911
so that the cops can show up at the scene in about... oh, seven minutes...
to count the bodies. Including, perhaps, his. And as foolish as that
reasoning is, it is Kenneth's reasoning. And no amount of discussion is
going to change it.

So be it.

God Bless Reality.
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>
>>> Have you ever been in a life threatening situation?
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>
> Steve
Joe Bedford - 21 Jul 2005 20:58 GMT
<snip blather>
Believe what you want - it's a free world. I'm just glad that my free world
and yours don't overlap.

PLONK
unk - 22 Jul 2005 05:46 GMT
>Steve,
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>course, I won't have to be armed. Remember, people in the land of Denial are
>nicer.

Like the chap who, a couple weeks ago, walked unscathed through the
border from Can'tada to the US carrying a bloody sword and knife and
who had just MURDERED some innocent people.  The canuck guards were
unarmed and were afraid to confront him.

Friggin cowards, next only to the cheese eating surrender monkeys in
western Europe.

>Obviously, Kenneth cannot understand the value of putting the bad guy and
>the good guy both in a life threatening situation instead of just the good
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>God Bless Reality.
Opus- - 22 Jul 2005 07:43 GMT
>>Steve,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>Friggin cowards, next only to the cheese eating surrender monkeys in
>western Europe.

Uhh...Canadian guards would not even see him at most crossings, as he
was entering the U.S, not Canada. How come the U.S guards just let him
pass by?

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GeoffP - 22 Jul 2005 08:33 GMT
>>>Steve,
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>>who had just MURDERED some innocent people.  The canuck guards were
>>unarmed and were afraid to confront him.

You are stupid. Are you drunk? You are the kind of person who makes
Americans look stupid to the rest of the world. The shame of it is that you
are a minority  who makes the majority look bad. You should be ashamed of
your self.
Geoff.

>>Friggin cowards, next only to the cheese eating surrender monkeys in
>>western Europe.
>
> Uhh...Canadian guards would not even see him at most crossings, as he
> was entering the U.S, not Canada. How come the U.S guards just let him
> pass by?
unk - 23 Jul 2005 04:51 GMT
I am not sutupid and not drunk.  Would you care to point out the
errors in my post?  To me it is the canadian guards that were ashamed.

>You are stupid. Are you drunk? You are the kind of person who makes
>Americans look stupid to the rest of the world. The shame of it is that you
>are a minority  who makes the majority look bad. You should be ashamed of
>your self.
>Geoff.
unk - 23 Jul 2005 04:51 GMT
The canadian guards DID see him and KNEW he was wanted but would not
and could not detain him because he had a weapon.  Once again, the US
carries canuck water.

>Uhh...Canadian guards would not even see him at most crossings, as he
>was entering the U.S, not Canada. How come the U.S guards just let him
>pass by?
Mark Tetrault - 22 Jul 2005 11:17 GMT
>Like the chap who, a couple weeks ago, walked unscathed through the
>border from Can'tada to the US carrying a bloody sword and knife and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Friggin cowards, next only to the cheese eating surrender monkeys in
>western Europe.

Idiot! When he walked back over the border to the US he walked by the US
Customs guards, not the Canadian Customs people. When one re-enters the
US, they go thru US Customs. The Canadians are not even set up in many
border crossing points to monitor returning traffic to the US.

So I seriously doubt your national slur of the Canadian guards would
hold water. It just serves to show your ignorance.

Mark
SteveB - 22 Jul 2005 15:00 GMT
>>Like the chap who, a couple weeks ago, walked unscathed through the
>>border from Can'tada to the US carrying a bloody sword and knife and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Mark

You would just have to know unk.  And now you do.  I have him in my filters.
Would everyone else put him there, too, because when you keep answering him
when he posts this crap, it's just like he's not filtered.

Thanks in advance, and let talk RVing.

Steve
unk - 23 Jul 2005 04:51 GMT
Well he was canadian, not US.  The story I relate came from CBC via AP
(IIRC) and as I have already posted, the canadian border guards saw
him, knew he was wanted and let him go because thay didn't have the
meqns to stop him.

>Idiot! When he walked back over the border to the US he walked by the US
>Customs guards, not the Canadian Customs people. When one re-enters the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Mark
Glenn - 22 Jul 2005 15:45 GMT
> Like the chap who, a couple weeks ago, walked unscathed through the
> border from Can'tada to the US carrying a bloody sword and knife and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Friggin cowards, next only to the cheese eating surrender monkeys in
> western Europe.

If he had nail clippers, US home security would have nailed him to the wall,
as it was he only had a chainsaw and sword, what part of unarmed you don't
understand stooopid?

Glenn who is busy renovating his Igloo and strangling Polar Bears for supper
Chris - 27 Jul 2005 02:48 GMT
> > Like the chap who, a couple weeks ago, walked unscathed through the
> > border from Can'tada to the US carrying a bloody sword and knife and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Glenn who is busy renovating his Igloo and strangling Polar Bears for supper

Glenn,
How do you cook those Polar Bears?  I need a good recipe.

Chris
Ed Atyeo - 01 Aug 2005 20:07 GMT
Are you an IDIOT or just a MORON!!!!!!!!!

> > > Like the chap who, a couple weeks ago, walked unscathed through the
> > > border from Can'tada to the US carrying a bloody sword and knife and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Chris
Chris - 02 Aug 2005 04:15 GMT
> Are you an IDIOT or just a MORON!!!!!!!

1.  Who the hell are you?

2.  The question was not directed to you so why are you responding?

3.  You are obviously having some kind of mental break down, seek help  
   immediately, go to the nearest phone and dial 911!

4.  Kiss my a.s!

5.  Repeat # 4 !
Ed Atyeo - 02 Aug 2005 11:00 GMT
I thought the idea of a news group was that every one could could
participate, or do you want total domination of the news groups also dick
breath
> > Are you an IDIOT or just a MORON!!!!!!!
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> 5.  Repeat # 4 !
SteveB - 02 Aug 2005 16:29 GMT
>I thought the idea of a news group was that every one could could
> participate, or do you want total domination of the news groups also dick
> breath

Well, the answer is yes, no, definitely, and maybe.  Some people just want
total domination.  Usually, they are the ones who got beat up a lot in
school, and deservedly so.

The more simple of us think this is just like a realtime conversation where
one can ask questions and discuss topics.  Normal etiquette dominates.  No
special rules.  Faux pauxs and breeches of etiquette tolerated, and quickly
overlooked.

Then there are the elitist snobs who think that you have to have a high
dollar unit in order to even be recognized from the pulpit.

Then there are the Googlists who think that no new news should come up, but
that every questioner must go to Google, as that topic has been discussed
already, and doing it again would just upset the balance of nature and
alignment of the planets.  No matter that Google will take up to 32 years to
read all the related hits when you put in rv***.  And that is with no food
or bathroom breaks.

Then there are the bloggers and trolls who are similar to mold and fungus.
They just appear, and attach onto anything, and self propagate.  They
insinuate themselves into every conversation, and spoil what they touch.

Then, the paranoid, neurotic and OCBers.  They are the soapbox screechers
who think if the world would just do it THEIR way things would be fine.

So, you have a basic core of people who want to discuss the subject.  Then,
you have all the others who overthink this and have problems.  And a few who
think this is THEIRS, and participants must do it THEIR way.

HTH.

I've probably missed some things, but, if you like, we can discuss it.

Steve
Chris - 02 Aug 2005 18:00 GMT
> I thought the idea of a news group was that every one could could
> participate, or do you want total domination of the news groups also dick
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> >
> > 5.  Repeat # 4 !

I was participating.  I asked a question.  I was making a joke with
someone.  You called me a Idiot and a Moron.  You're the one trying to
dominate.  Didn't your mama ever tell you if you haven't got anything
nice to say shut your mouth.  Well you need too!  And my breath is just
fine.  You are a very gross individual to use such a comment.  You need
to seek some help!
unk - 02 Aug 2005 20:28 GMT
>I thought the idea of a news group was that every one could could
>participate, or do you want total domination of the news groups also dick
>breath

"Are you an IDIOT or just a MORON!!!!!!!!!"

This is participating?

hmmmm
birch999@hotmail.com - 02 Aug 2005 22:20 GMT
>>I thought the idea of a news group was that every one could could
>>participate, or do you want total domination of the news groups also dick
>>breath
>"Are you an IDIOT or just a MORON!!!!!!!!!"

Sounds like a multiple choice question.
Glenn - 22 Jul 2005 15:45 GMT
> Gun control (confiscation of handguns and confiscation of the inalienable
> right to self-defense) has been accepted and even embraced (it seems) in
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> guy walk than to shoot first. And he's entitled to that philosophy. So be
> it.

Klan membership speech snipped

The Fishmongers Klan meeting fizzled huh.

Glenn who is busy renovating his Igloo and strangling Polar Bears for supper
CoachPotato@comcast.net - 22 Jul 2005 16:39 GMT
Glen, why don't you put down that crack pipe, take a day or two to sober up,
then try again?! I mean, really, posting and answering yourself is a bit
bizarre!

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>
>> Gun control (confiscation of handguns and confiscation of the inalienable
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Glenn who is busy renovating his Igloo and strangling Polar Bears for
> supper
Joe Bedford - 20 Jul 2005 14:42 GMT
> Where can you move in Canada to find more freedom? I don't think Texas
> quite reaches Canada.

You may have the perception of freedom. There are more cops per square mile
in the US than anywhere in Canada. Do you know why? They're needed.

> I suggest that you Canadians defend your freedoms with the same vigor that
> you defend losing those freedoms!

I agree with you there. We need to rely far less on the US. We need to
develop a backbone so we can stand up to our friends. (We don't have any
ememies so we don't have to stand up to them).

Cheers, Joe

PS: I like visiting Texas very much - in the winter.
Joe Bedford - 20 Jul 2005 14:36 GMT
> Laws per square mile? Huh?
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> RV park. And if, Lord forbid, I'm inclined to make a hate speech some day,
> I won't wind up in jail for it.

You say these things like they're GOOD things.

Cheers, Joe
Glenn - 20 Jul 2005 20:31 GMT
> Now if you'd like to make the charge that the US (and especially
> California) has a lot of restrictions, I'd readily agree. But even here in
> the nutty People's Republic of California I can own a gun, I don't depend
> on Big Brother for medical care and I am not required to park my RV in an
> RV park. And if, Lord forbid, I'm inclined to make a hate speech some day,
> I won't wind up in jail for it.

Absolutely there crotch potato we have no guns we do all of our hunting with
bows and arrows. OTOH hate speeches now there is one right that should be
vigorously defended, could you just imagine a Klan meeting without hate
speeches. Other then that you might want to leave your pointy sheets with
the two holes at home, wonder if Wallymart stocks them in Canada. BTW, I
believe at the last G8 meeting your president might have signed that right
away

Glenn who is busy renovating his Igloo and strangling Polar Bears for supper
SteveB - 20 Jul 2005 20:53 GMT
> Glenn who is busy renovating his Igloo and strangling Polar Bears for
> supper

Strangle this - - - > PLONK

And another clueless blogger is vaporized ........ any RV related stuff?
Justin - 12 Jul 2005 19:10 GMT
>I just spent some time in western Canada, B.C, AB, SK, and MB.  Its pretty
>much the same as in the lower 48.  Only saw one Wallys with a sign
>prohibiting it.  It was a weird sign too, had to read it a couple of times
>to figure out what it as saying.  Starting out by saying no cars for sale
>and later referenced no over night parking.

While none of us on this NG have ever before heard of fishmonger, I
would be inclined to believe that his disenchantment with "usual
[Canadian] restrictive laws" might very well present a threat to his
passion for child pornography and all that sort of stuff.

Stan Birch
Newmarket, Ontario

Would you explain how you managed to poll the entire newsgroups usual
posters to know that none of them ever heard of  fishwisher?
FishWisher - 13 Jul 2005 21:35 GMT
Stanley,

You are about as ignorant as anyone I've ever come across on the 'net. You
pick the most absurd nonsense out of thin air, pretend that it is
substantive, then try to argue about it. I can imagine how many folks have
you blocked, and I have just been added to what is probably a pretty long
list.

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My RV Site:  http://groups.msn.com/CoachpotatosRVHomepage/_whatsnew.msnw

>>I just spent some time in western Canada, B.C, AB, SK, and MB.  Its pretty
>>much the same as in the lower 48.  Only saw one Wallys with a sign
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Would you explain how you managed to poll the entire newsgroups usual
> posters to know that none of them ever heard of  fishwisher?
OsiTech.Net - 14 Jul 2005 04:40 GMT
"I can imagine how many folks have you blocked"

Wow, you Guys do get a hard on for your kill files - lol.

Interesting.

> Stanley,
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>> Would you explain how you managed to poll the entire newsgroups usual
>> posters to know that none of them ever heard of  fishwisher?
Ray - 19 Jul 2005 22:28 GMT
Check out this storey first!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050719/BOONDOCK
ERS19/TPFront/TopStories


> We are planning to go north into Saskatchewan, Canada and then west to
> British Columbia in August. Can anyone advise re Wal-Mart's and Canada's
> policies about parking in their lots overnight there? Are there other such
> open lot policies in Canada? Or does Canada have their usual restrictive
> laws extending even to Sam's invitation to stay at his place? Any
> knowledgeable advice most appreciated.
SteveB - 19 Jul 2005 22:51 GMT
> Check out this storey first!
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050719/BOONDOCK
ERS19/TPFront/TopStories

Interesting story.  But I just think it is capitalism in action without
government interference.  Or at least a lot of it as it stands now.

Does the WalMart guide come on CD?

Steve
Ken Harrison - 20 Jul 2005 05:20 GMT
> Check out this storey (sic) first!
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050719/BOONDOCK
ERS19/TPFront/TopStories

Ah, what a charmed life.  Overnight at WalMart, "dine" out at Wendy's,
read (if one can read) McPaper (USA Today) and learn all one needs to
know about the world by watching Fox "News."

Could life be any better?

KH
SteveB - 20 Jul 2005 07:08 GMT
> Ah, what a charmed life.  Overnight at WalMart, "dine" out at Wendy's,
> read (if one can read) McPaper (USA Today) and learn all one needs to know
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>KH

Nope.  They're happy and at peace.  Unlike you.

Steve
Ken Harrison - 20 Jul 2005 09:19 GMT
> Nope.  They're happy and at peace.  Unlike you.

And on what information do you base your estimate of my level of serenity?

Ken
SteveB - 20 Jul 2005 14:48 GMT
>> Nope.  They're happy and at peace.  Unlike you.
>
> And on what information do you base your estimate of my level of serenity?
>
> Ken

On the conversation thread................. which you failed to post.

Steve
SteveB - 20 Jul 2005 15:10 GMT
>>> Nope.  They're happy and at peace.  Unlike you.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Steve

I based it on the following snobby snotty comments YOU made:

> Ah, what a charmed life.  Overnight at WalMart, "dine" out at Wendy's,
> read (if one can read) McPaper (USA Today) and learn all one needs to know
> about the world by watching Fox "News."

Or, does following a thread and answering in context confuse and interrupt
your hateful diatribes?

Steve
Joe Bedford - 20 Jul 2005 14:35 GMT
>> Check out this storey (sic) first!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> read (if one can read) McPaper (USA Today) and learn all one needs to know
> about the world by watching Fox "News."

In Canada, it would be read the National Post, coffee at Tim Horton's and
CBC Evening News.

Cheers, Joe
Glenn - 20 Jul 2005 20:28 GMT
> Check out this storey first!
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050719/BOONDOCK
ERS19/TPFront/TopStories

Don't confuse the Crotch potato with facts, myself I would like to see his
face when he finds out there are no roads in Canada and he has to use
dogsleds when he enters Canada, that would be priceless.

Glenn who is busy renovating his Igloo and strangling Polar Bears for supper

>> We are planning to go north into Saskatchewan, Canada and then west to
>> British Columbia in August. Can anyone advise re Wal-Mart's and Canada's
>> policies about parking in their lots overnight there? Are there other
>> such open lot policies in Canada? Or does Canada have their usual
>> restrictive laws extending even to Sam's invitation to stay at his place?
>> Any knowledgeable advice most appreciated.
R.J.(Bob) Evans - 25 Jul 2005 03:39 GMT
>We are planning to go north into Saskatchewan, Canada and then west to
>British Columbia in August. Can anyone advise re Wal-Mart's and Canada's
>policies about parking in their lots overnight there? Are there other such
>open lot policies in Canada? Or does Canada have their usual restrictive
>laws extending even to Sam's invitation to stay at his place? Any
>knowledgeable advice most appreciated.

We use camp Wally-Mart all the time in western Canada - can't think of
one that has restrictions except Yorkton where they have barriers to
prevent tall vehicles from entering.  I think the intent is to keep
trucks out but the effect is to keep us out as well.

Most decent sized towns and all cities in western Canada have some
kind of farm implement dealer.  We often stay on their lots - no
shortage of room there - we arrive after they are closed for the day
and are gone before they open up so we don't bother them.  They are
guaranteed to have good access and lots of room to maneuvre.

R.J.(Bob) Evans
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