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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / July 2005What if ..............
Okay. I'm looking at top of the line used pushers. Alpine coach, Diplomat, Dutch Star, others. I have set a top price of $125k. What would you buy and why? I have only a few requirements: at least 300 hp diesel pusher want a high number on wheelbase/length ratio a brand known for good cabinetry ONE slide in the living room tag axle ok 22.5" tires (or large size) What would you get? Steve > Okay. I'm looking at top of the line used pushers. Alpine coach, Diplomat, > Dutch Star, others. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Steve The one with the best warranty from the best dealer. LB > Okay. I'm looking at top of the line used pushers. Alpine coach, > Diplomat, Dutch Star, others. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Steve Country Coach. Ride, construction quality, reputation, interior appearance. Second would be Beaver. Third would be Safari. Fourth, Winnebago. Fifth one of the mid range Monaco's (higher than Diplomat). Watch out for any 1999/2000 dark paint. Lots, and I really do mean lots, have thermal cracking in the surface.  Signature"Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I have stayed alive." http://www.bobhatch.com > > Okay. I'm looking at top of the line used pushers. Alpine coach, > > Diplomat, Dutch Star, others. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > 1999/2000 dark paint. Lots, and I really do mean lots, have thermal cracking > in the surface. I notice you didn't mention Newmar in the list, nor Tiffin. SignatureFigment We need more imagination and less reality I currently own a Newmar Mountain Aire Gas rig. I would like to move up to the diesel and heavier frame and tires. Better mileage. Better engine and drivetrain, etc. Hence, the request for suggestions. It seems as though I can get a decent rig for $125k, and I just want to look at the most I can get for my money in a used rig. Steve > I currently own a Newmar Mountain Aire Gas rig. I would like to move up to > the diesel and heavier frame and tires. Better mileage. Better engine and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Steve How many years back are you looking? Try looking at 5 year old coaches - after all a diesel is just getting broken in by then and all of the 'problems' have been solved - we've seen some Country Coaches for around 125K that are 5-6 years old. SignatureFigment We need more imagination and less reality > How many years back are you looking? Try looking at 5 year old coaches > - after all a diesel is just getting broken in by then and all of the > 'problems' have been solved - we've seen some Country Coaches for around > 125K that are 5-6 years old. I have seen many that are up to ten years old that have a lot of miles left in them. And the price is right, too. Steve > I notice you didn't mention Newmar in the list, nor Tiffin. You're sharp as a tack. :-) Signature"Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I have stayed alive." http://www.bobhatch.com >Okay. I'm looking at top of the line used pushers. Alpine coach, Diplomat, >Dutch Star, others. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Steve None of those you listed are top of the line. For that you get a Prevost conversion, A Bluebird Wanderlodge, A Newell, etc. The ones you listed are low-middle of the line. Check out rvtrader online and a few other places to see what is trading for your self imposed maximum of $125K. Also look at the true top of the line and you will see that you are priced out of that market. George >>Okay. I'm looking at top of the line used pushers. Alpine coach, >>Diplomat, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > George You must be a real elitist. I consider $125k spent on a motorhome to be pretty top of the line. To this average person, anyway. It must not be in your world. Sorry to bother your elitist snobby ***. Steve It's not elitist. Try pricing pushers and you'll find you're doing good to be in the ballgame at that price. That's really considered a low end. I will agree with you that it is a lot of money for most of us, but that's what the market will bear, so we have to deal with that issue. Randy Davis >>>Okay. I'm looking at top of the line used pushers. Alpine coach, >>>Diplomat, [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Steve > It's not elitist. Try pricing pushers and you'll find you're doing good to > be in the ballgame at that price. That's really considered a low end. I > will agree with you that it is a lot of money for most of us, but that's > what the market will bear, so we have to deal with that issue. > > Randy Davis I found a lot of nice interesting low mileage units for 125K or less. I was surprised. Unless those California idiots pull the right numbers in this week's lotto, I will have to forego the $800k Prevost, and stick with a $125k "beater". Steve >>>Steve >>>>> None of those you listed are top of the line. For that you get a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Steve I don't consider it elitist - rather realist. There are many coaches out there that sell new for over $1 million. Many others in the $500K to 1,000K. To call a coach that sells for less than $125K, "top of the line" is not being realistic. That does not mean that most of the lower end are not in the majority. They are, due to being lower in cost which is what most of us can afford. If you want real quality for lower cost, look at the converted buses. We just sold one that was well within your price range though it did not have the slide out. Many of the converted coaches have much better workmanship and are better built than any that the "professional manufacturers" put out. If you ever get one, you will understand what top of the line really means. George > >>>Steve > >>>>> None of those you listed are top of the line. For that you get a [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > George Realist vs Elitist. In MY opinion, the realist stays within his personal budget, whatever that may be, for the purposes he intends. An elitist is the corporate officer, rock star and etc., that spends the companies monies on frivialist, useless crap such as $1m Motorhomes trying to sell his useless product and take money from the stock holders. Granted, better materials cost more, but that doesn't mean they will last longer in a motorhome. For example: Ceramic tile costs much more than vinyl, but with the flexing of a large motorhome, ceramic tile will crack and need more costly repairs over time than Vinyl. Copper waterlines cost more and usually last longer than the plastic stuff they use today, except in a motorhome. These are just a couple examples that paying more doesn't necessarily mean a better overall product, or "top of the line". I have seen many "top of the line" motorhomes (buses) that have the same problems as the low-end motorhomes do. It really doesn't matter other than trying to show off that one has money. Hank <~~~~cheap skate rock star :-) On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:33:15 -0700, ninebal310 wrote: > I have seen many "top of the line" motorhomes (buses) that have the same > problems as the low-end motorhomes do. Not at all- the problems with "top of the line" coaches result in *much* higher repair bills ;) SignatureChris Bryant http://bryantrv.com >What would you get? > >Steve RV Trader's website has a '98 Monaco Executive, 40', slide, 450 hp diesel, 41K miles, many extras, asking $119,900. The Executive is almost top of the line for Monaco, nicer than the Dynasty I once owned. Canoli >>What would you get? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Canoli I was cruising their site earlier today. Lots of good looking units. I will search for this one. Caution: use of the term "top of the line" may cause needless debate. ;-) Thanks Steve >"SteveB" <desertNOSPAMtraveler@cox.net> wrote: >Okay. I'm looking at top of the line used pushers. Alpine coach, Diplomat, >Dutch Star, others. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Steve You probably already know this, but if you spend around $100 for the CD at www.rv.org many of your questions will be answered. SignatureDD |
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