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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / August 2005

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can anyone identify this trailer from a 1954 movie

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omnivore_ink@yahoo.com - 22 Aug 2005 16:02 GMT
http://omnivoreink.com/TheThunderChild/Articles/Them/trailer2.JPG

is the URL.

Thanks for any help.
Frank Tabor - 22 Aug 2005 16:15 GMT
>http://omnivoreink.com/TheThunderChild/Articles/Them/trailer2.JPG
>
>is the URL.
>
>Thanks for any help.

It's probably not an RV type trailer, it looks more like a "house"
trailer that was being made around that time.  They were about as big
as what is currently used as an RV.
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William. Boyd - 22 Aug 2005 16:40 GMT
>>http://omnivoreink.com/TheThunderChild/Articles/Them/trailer2.JPG
>>
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> trailer that was being made around that time.  They were about as big
> as what is currently used as an RV.

The vertical windows appears similar to a Schultz travel trailer,
but they were pre 54 more like 49 or 50, when I seen them. Only they
hardly traveled they were so heavy.

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omnivore_ink@yahoo.com - 23 Aug 2005 05:53 GMT
> The vertical windows appears similar to a Schultz travel trailer,
> but they were pre 54 more like 49 or 50, when I seen them. Only they
> hardly traveled they were so heavy.

Thanks alot for the help, all.  It doesn't need to be a 1954 trailer -
that' just when the film was made.

So this sounds good!
omnivore_ink@yahoo.com - 23 Aug 2005 06:36 GMT
Hi, all

I've put 3 different shots of this trailer onto a webpage for anyone
interested to take a look at.

The side view I already gave a link to, a view of the front of it with
windows, and a view of the damaged 'other' side!

http://omnivoreink.com/TheThunderChild/IDPhotos/IDneeded.html

is the URL.

Again, thanks for any and all help on this.
RAM^3 - 23 Aug 2005 06:41 GMT
> Hi, all
>
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>
> Again, thanks for any and all help on this.

Aha! You're trying to identify the trailer used in the movie "Them"!

It's quite possible that it's strictly a prop built expressly for the film.

BTW, ISTM that the prowl car is either a '53 or '54 Mercury.
Frank Tabor - 23 Aug 2005 16:11 GMT
>> Hi, all
>>
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>
>BTW, ISTM that the prowl car is either a '53 or '54 Mercury.

I think it's a Ford, for a couple of reasons, one being that the Ford
came in a Police package, but the Mercury didn't.  Had the Interceptor
motor and Police package.  Also look at the silhouette of the Mercury
rear end shown here,
http://images.google.com/images?q=54+mercury&btnG=Search&svnum=10&hs=8qE&hl=en&l
r=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial

third and fourth pictures, the tail light is smooth and sloped to the
bumper.  This shows the rear tail light lenses for the Mercury,
http://images.google.com/images?q=54+mercury&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a
&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&start=40&sa=N

Ford had a round light.
http://images.google.com/images?q=54+ford&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rl
s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&start=40&sa=N


I blew up the picture with Whitmore in it and I can't tell what it is.
It's not a water heater.  It has perforated metal around it.  It may
be some type of oil stove or heater.
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Frank Tabor

RAM^3 - 23 Aug 2005 18:01 GMT
>>> Hi, all
>>>
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> It's not a water heater.  It has perforated metal around it.  It may
> be some type of oil stove or heater.

Could be a Ford.

The object is probably just a prop created for the shot.
omnivore_ink@yahoo.com - 23 Aug 2005 20:53 GMT
>>One is a Mercury and the police car I think is a Ford, but
with out being able to see the front grill I cant tell what year it is.

I didn't realize that it was the front grill of a car which makes it
easier to identify as opposed to a side view.  Thanks!  I'll see if I
can't screensnap some of them and post - if you guys aren't tired of
this by now!

Once again thanks to all who are taking the trouble to look at this and
help me identify them.  Yes, I'm doing it for an article on Them, and
"the way life was in the 1950s."
Hunter - 24 Aug 2005 01:55 GMT
> Yes, I'm doing it for an article on Them, and
>"the way life was in the 1950s."

Here's something for your article.  That movie scared me to death as a
little girl, the only thing scarier was Psycho that came out a few
years later.

Actually, I think Them might have been even scarier than Psycho.

Years later, I heard music like they played in Them and it scared me
again.

Hunter
http://members.aol.com/hhamp5246/roadtrip2005.htm

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!"
omnivore_ink@yahoo.com - 24 Aug 2005 02:45 GMT
life was in the 1950s."

> Here's something for your article.  That movie scared me to death as a
> little girl,

I bet!  Scared me the first time I saw it,and I was a teenager!

Anyway, here's some more pics of the cars.  I tried to get the
"grills".

http://omnivoreink.com/TheThunderChild/IDPhotos/IDneeded2.html

I appreciate that now I'm moving away from trailers which is what your
expertise here is, but since some of you seem to know about cars,
thought I'd give it a try.

As always, I appreciate very much your taking the time to look at these
and identify them for me.

And if these don't help, I'm out of options, and will go with previous
suggestions.

Thanks!
Hunter - 24 Aug 2005 03:18 GMT
>I appreciate that now I'm moving away from trailers which is what your
>expertise here is, but since some of you seem to know about cars,
>thought I'd give it a try.
>
>As always, I appreciate very much your taking the time to look at these
>and identify them for me.

The NM police car is a 1953 Ford Customline Fordor sedan.

I think the one in LA is the same model with different paint.

The Mercury I believe is a Monterey wagon.

The best place to check is with Hemming Motor News....

http://www.hemmings.com/

Hope that helps.

Hunter
http://members.aol.com/hhamp5246/roadtrip2005.htm

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!"
HD in NY - 24 Aug 2005 03:24 GMT
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> And if these don't help, I'm out of options, and will go with previous
> suggestions.
>
> Thanks!

There is no doubt the cars are 1952 Fords.
<http://www.1motormart.com/gallery/53ford02.jpg>
HD in NY
Frank Tabor - 24 Aug 2005 03:32 GMT
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><http://www.1motormart.com/gallery/53ford02.jpg>
>HD in NY

Don't you proofread?  You said 52 then posted a picture of a 53.
Besides the 52 was the last year of the round body, 49-52.  53 was a
major body style change.
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Frank Tabor

HD in NY - 24 Aug 2005 03:48 GMT
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> Besides the 52 was the last year of the round body, 49-52.  53 was a
> major body style change.
You're right about my mistake but not the model change year.
1952 was the year of change. '49, '50 and '51 had the same
bodies. The '52 also was the first year of the overhead six.
The previous ones were flatheads. The flathead V8 stuck
around till '54 when the overhead valve engine took its
place. Both Merc and Ford were flatheads till '54 but
Lincoln switched in '52. I had two '50's and a '51 Ford.
Also had a '50 and a '51 Baby Lincoln.
HD in NY
Frank Tabor - 24 Aug 2005 04:07 GMT
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>Also had a '50 and a '51 Baby Lincoln.
>HD in NY

Bottom of this page, first one is labeled as a
52.http://images.google.com/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aoffic
ial_s&q=52+ford&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Unless it was a half year change I guess he has it labeled wrong. Note
the rounded style.  Here is another, but it's from England so it may
be off a year there.

I'm wondering if the body style change was made mid year.  I've found
several more labeled 52 with the 51 body style.
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Frank Tabor

HD in NY - 24 Aug 2005 12:19 GMT
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> Bottom of this page, first one is labeled as a
> 52.http://images.google.com/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aoffic
ial_s&q=52+ford&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

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> I'm wondering if the body style change was made mid year.  I've found
> several more labeled 52 with the 51 body style.

I don't recall the change being a 1/2 year thing. Ford made
a big deal out of the '52 intro. Both Chevy and Plymouth
still had their '49 body styles, so Ford trumped them on
styling change. Car makers weren't into the 1/2 year stuff
then so much.

That blue Ford tudor is a '50. Note the push button door
handles. The '49 had pull out handles. The '50 and '51 had
push button. On the next page the Ford labeled '52 is a '51.
I suppose it's possible export cars could have been badged
as '52's but this would be a fudge on the export part.

The English and French Fords were completely different from
ours. Some of them show up on the Google images. Regardless,
it's fun to think back to those years and the "fun" of
keeping junkers on the road <g>.
HD in NY
HD in NY - 24 Aug 2005 03:38 GMT
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> <http://www.1motormart.com/gallery/53ford02.jpg>
> HD in NY
Far fingers again and failing eye sight <g>. Naturally it's
a 1953.
HD in NY
HD in NY - 24 Aug 2005 12:21 GMT
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> Far fingers again and failing eye sight <g>. Naturally it's a 1953.
> HD in NY

See what I mean <g>. Maybe they are "far" fingers, slightly
detached from brain <g>.
HD in NY
Frank Tabor - 24 Aug 2005 03:26 GMT
>life was in the 1950s."
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>
>Thanks!

It's a 53.  http://www.1motormart.com/gallery/53ford02.jpg None of the
54s I found had the park lights between the bumper and the grill.
http://www.jameng.com/classifieds/images/54ford_lf.jpg
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Frank Tabor

Chris Cowles - 24 Aug 2005 05:19 GMT
> Anyway, here's some more pics of the cars.  I tried to get the
> "grills".

Thing on the floor appears to be an oil space heater.
HD in NY - 24 Aug 2005 12:22 GMT
>>Anyway, here's some more pics of the cars.  I tried to get the
>>"grills".
>
> Thing on the floor appears to be an oil space heater.

That's what I'd guess.
HD in NY
William. Boyd - 24 Aug 2005 18:00 GMT
>>Anyway, here's some more pics of the cars.  I tried to get the
>>"grills".
>
> Thing on the floor appears to be an oil space heater.

That is correct, it is laying down on it's side. We had one in our
travel trailer in 1952. It was a Glider about 29' long, pulled with
a standard 51 Chev pickup. Some one earlier said this thing on the
floor was an air conditioner, didn't have them back then for travel
trailers, only had water coolers.

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Bill P.
just
 Dog
  &
 ME

At this time in life all that
remains is left overs, some can
be cherished as good others bad,
but the only definite is that they
are all that remains, main course is
over.

omnivore_ink@yahoo.com - 25 Aug 2005 18:15 GMT
Once again, thanks to everybody who responded with this great info!
Much appreciated!
mikendebbie@hotmail.com - 26 Aug 2005 02:43 GMT
This site might help you find the trailer...happy browsing!
http://www.allmanufacturedhomes.com/html/vintage_mobile_homes.htm
William. Boyd - 24 Aug 2005 22:24 GMT
> life was in the 1950s."
>
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>
> Thanks!

The Mercury is a 53 Montery, can't  be absolutely sure but here is a
picture of one.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/1950-1959/1953-Mercury-Monterey-Hardtop-Red-Black-T
op.htm


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Bill P.
just
 Dog
  &
 ME

At this time in life all that
remains is left overs, some can
be cherished as good others bad,
but the only definite is that they
are all that remains, main course is
over.

William. Boyd - 23 Aug 2005 15:58 GMT
> Hi, all
>
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>
> Again, thanks for any and all help on this.

Also trying to identify what the thing is at the feet of James Whitmore.
Water heater? Clothes hamper?

This thing is a oil or kerosene heater laying on it's side, it has a
grill around it that you can see. The hole in the top is actually
the door that you light the fire in. These were the heating stoves
in those days in trailers. This I am Positive of.

The car in the front of the trailer and the police car are not the
same, One is a Mercury and the police car I think is a Ford, but
with out being able to see the front grill I cant tell what year it is.

Signature

Bill P.
just
 Dog
  &
 ME

At this time in life all that
remains is left overs, some can
be cherished as good others bad,
but the only definite is that they
are all that remains, main course is
over.

Chris Bryant - 23 Aug 2005 21:40 GMT
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:36:39 -0700, omnivore_ink wrote:

> Hi, all
>
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>
> Again, thanks for any and all help on this.

OK- I asked my wife (who was RVing during that period), and she said the
trailer looks like either a Kit or a Pathfinder- most likely Kit.
The item on the floor, looks like an old, old style air conditioner (!?)-
which sat on the floor, were noisy as all get out.

Both guesses, but educated ones ;).

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http://bryantrv.com

 
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