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William Boyd - 02 Oct 2005 03:54 GMT I had to bite the bullet and drop direcway, they are to slow. I use video programs and they cannot support the speed and power required like cable can. Of course there was more to it than just shutting it down, they charged me a penalty fee for early termination. I should have terminated within 30 days but they were conveniently un-contactable during that period. They also raised the monthly fee with out notifying me, it just showed up on my credit card bill. When I asked them to discontinue service they did before the end of the period that was already payed for, provided no rebate either. The only way I found out how to contact them was looking at my credit card bill, their phone number was posted with the increased monthly charge, but not the lower correct two months. So now I will rely on WIFI and more than likely dial up or use the cell phone like a lot of you do. I have been trying to find out if any body gets WIFI over cable at any of the sites, seems as though no one knows and dont see fit to ask the park management.
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Jon Griffin - 02 Oct 2005 15:29 GMT >>So now I will rely on WIFI and more than likely dial up or use the >cell phone like a lot of you do. I have been trying to find out if >any body gets WIFI over cable at any of the sites, seems as though >no one knows and dont see fit to ask the park management. Not real sure what you mean by "any body gets WIFI over cable at any of the sites". The WiFi Access Point connects to the net via a cable modem or a dsl modem. It depends on what is available in the RV parks area. I guess someone somewhere might be connected via a dial-up but I've never heard of one.
I did connect once in a Utah rest stop. I looked around and the caretakers house had a Satellite Internet Antenna so I guess it has his access point I was using.
Jon
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Bob Hatch - 02 Oct 2005 15:35 GMT >>> So now I will rely on WIFI and more than likely dial up or use the >> cell phone like a lot of you do. I have been trying to find out if [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jon That answer should have been obvious. The park will use whatever is available. I've been in one place, On The River, in Boise, ID, where their source was an older DirecWay, 4020 modem that had to use a computer as a server. It was slower than dialup. The park I'm in right now uses a low end DSL, with one antenna for the whole park. The park host has opened up his "DirecWay" for people in the back of the park. It's an unreliable hodge podge. Hence, I set up my DirecWay in every park.
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Peter Pan - 03 Oct 2005 04:44 GMT >>> So now I will rely on WIFI and more than likely dial up or use the >> cell phone like a lot of you do. I have been trying to find out if [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jon Now you can say you have heard of it.. I have two RV spaces here (private/not public park), and a mesh network on my ten acres.. Use a Wiflyer (http://www.alwaysonwireless.com/wiflyer.html) to let laptops with built in wireless use the internet (basically it's an access point with an always connected built in dialup or can connect to a network/dsl/cable/etc - I live in the sticks/no cable/no dsl/trees and mountains in the way of sat etc.. Works great when traveling in my RV though, even witth a cell).
Charles Kerekes - 02 Oct 2005 18:56 GMT Bill,
> I have been trying to find out if any body > gets WIFI over cable at any of the sites The KOA in Gold Hill, OR, has recently installed a WiFi over cable. The cable internet connection is fine, but the signal strength does not reach the entire park. For those who are close to the access point in the office, the services is great. For those a few hundred feet away are spotty, at best.
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Hunter - 02 Oct 2005 19:10 GMT >The KOA in Gold Hill, OR, has recently installed a WiFi over cable. The >cable internet connection is fine, but the signal strength does not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Charlie> That's why I got a wifi card on a string. I plug it into a USB port and stick it in whatever window gets the signal.
I even got an extension cord.
When I was someplace in Alabama I had it hanging off the back of my chair because it's the only place in the trailer where it could get a signal (the door is behind the chair).
It doesn't always work, but it sure makes a difference and gets better signals that the pcmcia card.
Hunter
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BrianT - 03 Oct 2005 04:31 GMT What make card to you have?
>>The KOA in Gold Hill, OR, has recently installed a WiFi over cable. The >>cable internet connection is fine, but the signal strength does not [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy > sh.t...what a ride!" Hunter - 03 Oct 2005 05:05 GMT >What make card to you have? Microsoft.
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Peter Pan - 03 Oct 2005 05:15 GMT >>> The KOA in Gold Hill, OR, has recently installed a WiFi over cable. Just to be clear, there is no such thing as WiFi over cable... WiFi stands for wireless fidelity... Note the part of the name "WIRELESS"
You can have cable internet connected to the Access Point, but then it becomes WIRELESS and has nothing to do with cable anymore.
Charles Kerekes - 03 Oct 2005 15:45 GMT Peter,
> Just to be clear, there is no such thing as WiFi over cable Correct. I was just replying to the original question about having a WiFi access point on a cable-connected Internet. Thanks for the clarification.
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Charles Kerekes - 03 Oct 2005 15:48 GMT Hunter,
> That's why I got a wifi card on a string. Glad to hear that works. The park host where I'm at is ordering what sounds similar to yours--basically a USB cable connected to a good size antenna, with the WiFi card built into the antenna base. We'll be doing some testing with that in the next few weeks.
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Jon Griffin - 03 Oct 2005 15:54 GMT >The KOA in Gold Hill, OR, has recently installed a WiFi over cable. The >cable internet connection is fine, but the signal strength does not >reach the entire park. For those who are close to the access point in >the office, the services is great. For those a few hundred feet away >are spotty, at best. Seeings as how some folks think that KOA stands for Keep On Adding, I'm wondering if the KOA parks charge for WiFi. I'm finding more and more parks that provide it free as an incentive to use their park.
Jon
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Hunter - 03 Oct 2005 17:09 GMT >Seeings as how some folks think that KOA stands for Keep On Adding, >I'm wondering if the KOA parks charge for WiFi. I'm finding more and >more parks that provide it free as an incentive to use their park. > >Jon The only one I stayed in this summer did charge extra. I have friends who stayed in one that didn't charge so it's not universal.
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aj - 07 Oct 2005 20:43 GMT I've been looking into satellite internet. The prices are a bit steep as yet. I like the idea of having full-time tracking for broadband. The main reason (aside from getting email, doing some server administartion, etc) is so that I can always be accessible using VoIP. We just came off a trip to Thunder Bay, and there was no GSM service from Sault Ste Marie to Thunder Bay. In addition, there isn't a 2-meter repeater anywhere in that whole area. Having telephone access using VoIP through broadband satellite would be ideal. So far, from what I hear, the providers are either unreliable or charge by the K-byte. Maybe in 6 months, prices and availabliity will be better.
>I had to bite the bullet and drop direcway, they are to slow. I use >video programs and they cannot support the speed and power required [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >any body gets WIFI over cable at any of the sites, seems as though >no one knows and dont see fit to ask the park management. MoM - 08 Oct 2005 01:04 GMT >>I had to bite the bullet and drop direcway, they are to slow. I use >>video programs and they cannot support the speed and power required [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>any body gets WIFI over cable at any of the sites, seems as though >>no one knows and dont see fit to ask the park management.
> I've been looking into satellite internet. The prices are a bit steep > as yet. I like the idea of having full-time tracking for broadband. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > what I hear, the providers are either unreliable or charge by the > K-byte. Maybe in 6 months, prices and availabliity will be better. I've had Direcway since early September. I've never had a problem with it being too slow. My service is excellent as well.
I purchased my system from 3icommunications.com in Ontario Canada. I can reach them for assistance 24 hours a day at an 800 # that I can avail my self anywhere in Canada or US. Cost about $2000 Can for setup and equipment. $92 month Can monthly service for internet.
It's worth it to me.
MoM
aj - 09 Oct 2005 01:15 GMT Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad that the service is good. What type of equipment did you get for your RV (i.e., dish, transceiver, etc)? Can you get a dish that tracks fulltime, similar to what KVH has to offer?
>>>I had to bite the bullet and drop direcway, they are to slow. I use >>>video programs and they cannot support the speed and power required [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >MoM Don Bradner - 09 Oct 2005 03:03 GMT >Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad that the service is good. What type >of equipment did you get for your RV (i.e., dish, transceiver, etc)? >Can you get a dish that tracks fulltime, similar to what KVH has to >offer? There are not currently any tracking 2-way satellite internet dishes, and won't be with current technology.
KVH has offered (but currently doesn't) a tracking receive antenna that used satellite phone for the return. Around $1 per minute plus the normal $99 per month charge.
In such circumstances you might as well use satellite phone for 2-way. Not very fast, and definitely not cheap, but it will work in most places including in-motion.
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MoM - 09 Oct 2005 03:21 GMT >>>>I had to bite the bullet and drop direcway, they are to slow. I use >>>>video programs and they cannot support the speed and power required [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> >>MoM
> Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad that the service is good. What type > of equipment did you get for your RV (i.e., dish, transceiver, etc)? > Can you get a dish that tracks fulltime, similar to what KVH has to > offer? http://www.3icommunications.com/SitePages/Anywhere/anywhere.htm
Don Bradner - 08 Oct 2005 05:13 GMT >So far, from >what I hear, the providers are either unreliable or charge by the >K-byte. Maybe in 6 months, prices and availabliity will be better. Most of us find the provider (Direcway for most of us) to be quite reliable. Not 100%, but high 90s.
Because everybody offering low-priced consumer internet has always lost money, and it is getting harder to run a company that way, the general trend in satellite is for prices to rise. The true cost of providing internet by satellite is enormous compared with anything on land.
In the past 4 years prices for base level have risen about $10, although you get more for your money than you did back then. The main thing they've done is to offer increasingly greater service for even higher prices.
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