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For some reason yet to be determined my Norcold in my coach will only work on AC from the gen or shore power or LP. When I turn on the inverter when disconnected from shore power and with the engine OFF, the fridge never finds any AC. My microwave and 120V tv will work like this. So....what might the problem be where only the frigde cant find inverter power???...and also instead of using the inverter while ON THE ROAD, can I run the fridge on LP instead of power? Is is advisable or safe to do this? > For some reason yet to be determined my Norcold in my coach will only > work on AC from the gen or shore power or LP. When I turn on the > inverter when disconnected from shore power and with the engine OFF, > the fridge never finds any AC. My microwave and 120V tv will work > like this. So....what might the problem be where only the frigde > cant find inverter power??? It could be that the receptacle for the fridge is not powered by the inverter. ...and also instead of using the inverter > while ON THE ROAD, can I run the fridge on LP instead of power? Is > is advisable or safe to do this? Well, darn, here we go again. :-) Most of us here run with the fridge on LP. I've done it for years, with no problems. It's a good idea to turn the fridge off while fueling up, but I don't. You'll hear about how the rig can blow up, but no real examples. You'll hear about a fire at a gas station caused by a guy with his fridge on, but what you won't be told is, the side of the coach where the fridge was, was sprayed with gas when the hose was pulled from a filler tube at the next pump while still on. There is no practical reason not to use the LP while on the road.  Signature"Free enterprise has done more to reduce poverty than all the government programs dreamed up by Democrats." --Ronald Reagan http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com >"Larry" <ppcdoc@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> For some reason yet to be determined my Norcold in my coach will only >> work on AC from the gen or shore power or LP. When I turn on the >> inverter when disconnected from shore power and with the engine OFF, >> the fridge never finds any AC. So....what might the problem be where only the frigde >> cant find inverter power??? Sounds like you are the victim of a well-designed electrical system. Running your fridg from an inverter would run your batteries into the ground in short order! even when going down the road? doesnt the alt keep all that stuff up? > >"Larry" <ppcdoc@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> For some reason yet to be determined my Norcold in my coach will only [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Running your fridg from an inverter would run your batteries into the > ground in short order! >even when going down the road? doesnt the alt keep all that stuff up? What the alternator *can* do, is probably less of an issue as how *long* will it be able to do it before you have to prematurely replace your alternator prematurely. RV alternators are already worked hard enough, having to bring the coach batteries back up to snuff at the beginning of each day; but these tend to be short-term high-current situations. But adding a continuous additional 40 amps to run a fridge, into the mix is a somewhat less than desirable scenario. General use alternators are really not designed to pump out that kind of amperage on a continuous basis. Continuous overheating beyond design, will significantly abbreviate the life expectancy of your alternator. That's why emergency vehicles such as ambulances, fire trucks and police vehicles are equipped with big honkin' heavy duty alternators designed to cope with continuous high-current demands. Even 3-way fridges that provide the option of operating from 12 volts, are pretty much a novelty of the past. Very few RV manufacturers even offer 3-way fridges as an option these days. And for the extra 50 buck to include a 12 volts option, cost was hardly a consideration. Although 12 volt fridges consume about 10 amps less than 120 volt units, there was merely no justifiable reason for providing that option in an RV. From the outset, RV fridges were designed to operate on propane; and they tend do that very well. They will operate for about 2 months on a mere 20 lb. tank of propane. Apart from the novelty-factor, I can't imagine any useful purpose being served by attempting to run an RV fridge from any electrical system other than a 120 volt hookup. FORTY AMPS for the fridge??? With my power handler in the coach, the digital readout only goes up about 5 amps when I turn it on ..a similar change is noted with my surge protector dig readout that monitors amps used on each line.......are you SURE about that 40 amps??? seems like a bunch more than my 25 cf unit at home!! > >even when going down the road? doesnt the alt keep all that stuff up? > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > being served by attempting to run an RV fridge from any electrical > system other than a 120 volt hookup. Look at your fridge at home and check the amps it draws. Multiply that time 10 and that's how many amps your fridge would draw if it ran on 12 volts. 5 amps at 120 volts would be 50 amps at 12 volts. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) FORTY AMPS for the fridge ??? With my power handler in the coach, the digital readout only goes up about 5 amps when I turn it on ..a similar change is noted with my surge protector dig readout that monitors amps used on each line.......are you SURE about that 40 amps??? seems like a bunch more than my 25 cf unit at home!! BUT..............if its running off the inverter on AC isnt that 120V? So is the amp situation the same thru the inverter..still about 50? I dont like or know squat about electricity, except that I dont like it !!! > Look at your fridge at home and check the amps it draws. > Multiply that time 10 and that's how many amps your fridge would draw if it > ran on 12 volts. > 5 amps at 120 volts would be 50 amps at 12 volts. > BUT..............if its running off the inverter on AC isnt that > 120V? So is the amp situation the same thru the inverter..still > about 50? I dont like or know squat about electricity, except that Larry, the inverter has to get it's power from someplace. That someplace is the batteries. It converts the 12 volt to 120 volt. It takes 10 amps of 12 volt electric to make 1 amp of 120 volt electric. You will shorten the life of your batteries and alternator by trying to run the fridge on the inverter, but it's your rig, your money. Do as you want. I'll run mine on propane. Signature"Free enterprise has done more to reduce poverty than all the government programs dreamed up by Democrats." --Ronald Reagan http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com point well taken...its propane for me too....so what is the purpose of an expensive inverter...the microwave prolly takes alot more amps than the fridge...so what are you supposed to be able to safely run off of it? I think the house lites are 12v....i dont get it...thankssssssss > > BUT..............if its running off the inverter on AC isnt that > > 120V? So is the amp situation the same thru the inverter..still [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'll run mine on propane. A while back we hooked up to a normal 120 rec. thru the door of our friends barn...I noticed that when it was dark and his outdoor security light was on the when our electrical heater kicked in the light kicked back a bit.... I wish now that I had realized then what was going on.....not to the heater but to the ref., I had to replace the power panel in order to use the electric as it got low voltage that night....looking at the repairs of the former owner (I have the entire history) I figured what was the trouble.... If in doubt use gas...my cost was about 100.00 doing it myself, you can even now buy a lot of gas for that.....and thank God I had the wiring diag., because taking all the wires off and marking then down....I knocked off a few others....all in color.... One more thing I discovered a storage switch on the right side of that power panel and now I put it on off when plugged in at home and not using...been looking for a surge plug like for a microwave to put back there too...small kind that protects just that plug. I am going to take our motor home out West this year and when I leave Michigan to go to Fla., our first leg.....wait till when to use the water...? Where can I find water if not at a KOA etc.? Understand some of the rest stops have dumps now.....can you sleep at the rest stops with out being asked to leave? Friend said to use Cheap Vodka but I already put in the Pink Stuff.... Plan is to leave about 12-15.... Going to do a shake down soon to see if all is operational. ROBERT F. THOMAS http://community.webtv.net/gator45/NAVIGATIONDEPTUSS OOPS! That switch is on the left side....Sorry! ROBERT F. THOMAS http://community.webtv.net/gator45/NAVIGATIONDEPTUSS > BUT..............if its running off the inverter on AC isnt that 120V? So > is the amp situation the same thru the inverter..still about 50? I dont [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>on each line.......are you SURE about that 40 amps??? seems like a bunch >>more than my 25 cf unit at home!! Don't know about anyone elses frig but mine the 120V element is 325W. that converts to 22.8A and with a little loss for efficency the alt would be haing to produce real close to 25A. It's cyclic in nature and at least for my MH there is more than that to spare for this use. I also can either have the coach batteries on/off for charging. Mickey There is one huge difference. OK two huge differences. 1) The home refer is much bigger (normally) 2) The technology is completely different. The home refer uses electricity to generate cool through a compressor (large motor). The RV refer uses a small flame and ammonia to do the same. On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:28:44 GMT, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <joe@anywhere.rr.com> wrote: >Look at your fridge at home and check the amps it draws. >Multiply that time 10 and that's how many amps your fridge would draw if it >ran on 12 volts. >5 amps at 120 volts would be 50 amps at 12 volts. >even when going down the road? doesnt the alt keep all that stuff up? Depends. Maybe in a motorhome with a good alt and good wiring to the coach batteries. In a trailer or 5w, forget it; you won't be getting 30a through a trailer plug. Besides that, pulling 30a out of an alternator isn't a good way to make it live long. >>even when going down the road? doesnt the alt keep all that stuff up? > >Depends. Maybe in a motorhome with a good alt and good wiring to the >coach batteries. In a trailer or 5w, forget it; you won't be getting >30a through a trailer plug. Besides that, pulling 30a out of an >alternator isn't a good way to make it live long. Ah, Chris. I believe most alternators are made to put out in excess of 200A. unk >Ah, Chris. I believe most alternators are made to put out in excess >of 200A. And that's even before you get our first 70 bonus virgins. >>Ah, Chris. I believe most alternators are made to put out in excess >>of 200A. > >And that's even before you get our first 70 bonus virgins. Stan, you bozo, WTF are you talking about. You make less sense as you get older. >Ah, Chris. I believe most alternators are made to put out in excess >of 200A. Nope. The alt on my diesel is something like 125a if my memory serves. Also, this is probably not a steady state capacity, it is most likely a surge capacity. To get 200 or 300a you have to replace the alt with a much better-built and more expensive unit. > >Ah, Chris. I believe most alternators are made to put out in excess > >of 200A. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > most likely a surge capacity. To get 200 or 300a you have to replace > the alt with a much better-built and more expensive unit. The suburban we had came with the tow package and it had a 130 A alternator. I haven't checked the motorhome, but it is probably the same on the P30 chassis. We had to take some injectors for the boat engine to a diesel shop and they had some 200A+ alternators in there for big trucks as well as emergency vehicles. One looked to be about half the size of the car engine. Leanne W1WXS > >Ah, Chris. I believe most alternators are made to put out in excess > >of 200A. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > most likely a surge capacity. To get 200 or 300a you have to replace > the alt with a much better-built and more expensive unit. 125a is *already* a heavy-duty alternator. Normal cars use a 55 to 65 amp model or less--some are 35. I would bet a 125a unit is fully capable of continuous high output. I ran an ac-only fridge for years on a houseboat off a Heart inverter at night on the water when I didn't want the gen running. I had sized the house battery bank to run the fridge, icemaker, tv, fans etc (everything but the aircond) for 10 hours at about 1/2 total batt cap. The next morning I'd run the gen 2 hours to bring the batts up to about 90% (the point on those huge floor-polisher 6vt batteries where it would take that much time again to reach 100%--not efficient to do with a genset-- easy to spot with the Heart monitor). I'd wait to return to shore power to top them off. It can be done--but why bother when propane's an option. SignatureJud Dallas TX USA >>Ah, Chris. I believe most alternators are made to put out in excess >>of 200A. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >most likely a surge capacity. To get 200 or 300a you have to replace >the alt with a much better-built and more expensive unit. I just called Workhorse and they told me my alternator was 145A. In any event, a damn Propane refrig in any RV does NOT draw anywhere near 40 amps when operating on propane. unk >>>Ah, Chris. I believe most alternators are made to put out in excess >>>of 200A. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > unk uhh, why would it use any amps? >> I just called Workhorse and they told me my alternator was 145A. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >uhh, why would it use any amps? The control board draws some current. I didn't check the manual to see how much. Unk >>>I just called Workhorse and they told me my alternator was 145A. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Unk Mine doesn't have a control board, doesn't use electricity either. Hoorah for my side. It will work even if someone steals the battery. > Mine doesn't have a control board, doesn't use > electricity either. Hoorah for my side. It will > work even if someone steals the battery. Mine DOES have a control board and uses (negligible) electricity. It, too, will work WITHOUT power. :) JR >Mine doesn't have a control board, doesn't use >electricity either. Hoorah for my side. It will >work even if someone steals the battery. I'm so happy for you, it brings a tear to my eye. I love this quite. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net " I'm so happy for you, it brings a tear to my eye" >I love this quite. Are you coming back to AJ this winter? If so, look us up, we now have a house in Mesa. I will take you to the Iowa Cafe ang buy b'fast. > > In any event, a damn Propane refrig in any RV does NOT draw anywhere > > near 40 amps when operating on propane. > uhh, why would it use any amps? Most (all?) "modern" RV refrigerators have control circuitry that consume SOME power. It's probably negligible, but there it is. :) JR Signature2000 Skamper Ultra 249 TT 2002 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD Vortec 8100 - Allison 1000 >>>In any event, a damn Propane refrig in any RV does NOT draw anywhere >>>near 40 amps when operating on propane. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > :) > JR Guess mine isn't modern 1994, since it doesn't use any electricity. Just the way I like it. Glad the water heater doesn't use any electricity either. >unk <roamer@k7no.com> wrote: >>>even when going down the road? doesnt the alt keep all that stuff up? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >unk I don't think so. Our diesel pusher bulgemobile has a 140 amp alternator. SignatureDD > even when going down the road? doesnt the alt keep all that stuff up? >> Sounds like you are the victim of a well-designed electrical system. >> Running your fridg from an inverter would run your batteries into the >> ground in short order! Years ago, many of the fridges were "3 way": 12V 120V and LP Now most are just 2 way: 120V and LP so you cant run down your batteries on 12V >>For some reason yet to be determined my Norcold in my coach will only >>work on AC from the gen or shore power or LP. When I turn on the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > There is no practical reason not to use the LP while on the road. Well Said. In my case, the frig is so far back pulling a TT, when I fill the truck tank that there is no pump near it. Note the elevation of the firebox for the frig. If it is 3 1/2 feet high like many, there is almost no chance of starting a fire. I note that the TV news included a story of a pump fire in the last two days started by static electricity. How rare is that? Fires started by RV frig's at gas stations are even more rare. But if someone is worried, how hard is it to turn the frige off before filling up? I have a Fletwood Tioga 1992 and just inside the door is a little green light(had better be green) and a switch....shut it off and it shuts the gas valve. and if you wait til the next pull over or till you get away it makes little difference.... But.....lets say you did start a fire at the pumps.....do you realy want to hear what you insurance would have to say? Saftey is always first and if saftey saves your life.....whats that worth? You are either a safe driver or not....and that IS part of the saftey thing..... (((((WHY DO YOU THINK THEY PUT THE SIGNS THERE FOR?)))) Readneacks....of course as they will do not what any sign says......smile! (soapbox) ROBERT F. THOMAS http://community.webtv.net/gator45/NAVIGATIONDEPTUSS >I have a Fletwood Tioga 1992 and just inside the door is a little green >light(had better be green) and a switch....shut it off and it shuts the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Readneacks....of course as they will do not what any sign >says......smile! Tell you what, do a little research and come back with all the instances that an RV with a pilot light started a fire at a gas pump. You will need to supply the references you found. Good luck. SignatureFrank I say again...(USN talk...) It always pays to be safe! Just because you didn't hear about it..... Once when we were resurfacing a seamless floor with the clear coat and we were wiping the surface with acetone....we didn't think to shut off the gas light.....woooF! the whole room flashed.....in the right conditions....it could. As long as there is circulation of air one would think you would be safe.... Again if i do enter a place such as this with my gas still on I am not only putting my self at risk but others.... ROBERT F. THOMAS http://community.webtv.net/gator45/NAVIGATIONDEPTUSS >I say again...(USN talk...) It always pays to be safe! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Again if i do enter a place such as this with my gas still on I am not > only putting my self at risk but others.... Your example does not apply: 1. You were working *indoors* [aka "enclosed space"] with a large volume of liquid that evaporated rather then *outdoors* with very little volume of evaporated liquid. Apples vs. Horseapples 2. Your pilot light was *within* the space that also enclosed the Acetone vapors. I say again...(USMC talk) Your example does not apply! What you are saying is true....I said that much in the post....conditions CAN exist...heavy air where the smog just hangs in there....How about rotten egg gas....you know what i mean... Gas wells are a dangerous place to be around....people who respond to these kind of emergencies have to be specially trained and have proper equipment. One morning I woke i the camper and smelled gas....got real excited until I realized it was coming from a gas well near by.....even then we were probably safe and they do put that smell in the gas to let you know it is there. Guess it is my USN and BSA training to "be prepared" that makes me do the unnesssary things.....but Nothing should happen on my watch. KNOCK Knock! ROBERT F. THOMAS http://community.webtv.net/gator45/NAVIGATIONDEPTUSS >I say again...(USN talk...) It always pays to be safe! > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >http://community.webtv.net/gator45/NAVIGATIONDEPTUSS You do know that gasoline is heavier than air, don' t you? You do know that the lowest pilot light or flame is the hot water heater, don't you? You do know that the hot water heater is 3 feet off the ground, don't you? You do know that you would have to be standing up to your waist in gasoline for there to be enough fumes in the rich enough to burn range, don't you? Folks have been refueling with their gas appliances lit for at least the last 50 years and I don't know of one single documented case of the propane pilot lights starting a fire at a gasoline refueling station. If you wish to be an over anxious Andy, then by all means do so, but don't try to justify yourself to the folks here. Nearly all of us have BTDT and got hundreds of T-Shirts to prove it. SignatureFrank > You do know that gasoline is heavier than air, don' t you? You do > know that the lowest pilot light or flame is the hot water heater, > don't you? You do know that the hot water heater is 3 feet off the > ground, don't you? You do know that you would have to be standing up > to your waist in gasoline for there to be enough fumes in the rich > enough to burn range, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah... All your facts are very convenient but don't FEEL very good. Just remember to shut off your [drum roll] CELL PHONE while refueling! What about an iPod? Doesn't operating a common vehicle starter pose a greater threat of spark ignition? How did we make it this far? <sigh> JR >For some reason yet to be determined my Norcold in my coach will only work >on AC from the gen or shore power or LP. When I turn on the inverter when [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >also instead of using the inverter while ON THE ROAD, can I run the fridge >on LP instead of power? Is is advisable or safe to do this? larry, we've run our fride on lp while driving since we began rv'ing 20 years ago with no adverse effects. running your fridge from the inverter would probably drain your batteries fairly quickly. go with the LP and no worries. 73, rich, n9dko > >For some reason yet to be determined my Norcold in my coach will only work > >on AC from the gen or shore power or LP. When I turn on the inverter when [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > 73, > rich, n9dko But what about in a tunnel - no propane on? Lou >> >For some reason yet to be determined my Norcold in my coach will only work >> >on AC from the gen or shore power or LP. When I turn on the inverter when [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Lou then turn off the propane before entering and turn it back on after exiting. the fridge will stay cold for quite some time if the propane is off. 73, rich, n9dko >> we've run our fride on lp while driving since we began rv'ing 20 years >> ago with no adverse effects. running your fridge from the inverter [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Lou Just use the trash can on the other end! > >> we've run our fride on lp while driving since we began rv'ing 20 years > >> ago with no adverse effects. running your fridge from the inverter [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > Just use the trash can on the other end! How long do you plan on spending in the tunnel? A couple hours? If you are not opening the door several times, then the box should hold the cold, or at least ours does. We have refueled and forgot to turn it on until the next rest stop. Leanne - W1WXS > > <Lou@GoForIt.net> wrote in message > news:434915A3.5B2EA94C@yahoo.com... [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > should hold the cold, or at least ours does. We have refueled > and forgot to turn it on until the next rest stop. Unless you open the door the fridge and freezer will stay cold for hours with being connected to power. We were on the road from June 1 until August 30 and discovered the first day that our fridge was working on propane. The usual quick fix of blowing out the cobwebs didn't work, so we went all summer without it working on propane. We avoided opening the door while traveling and tried to leave the door closed for an hour before disconnecting from electricity. Some travel days the temperature was in the upper 90s and we traveled as long as six hours. Nothing in the freezer ever thawed and nothing in the fridge ever spoiled (including milk). Now that the fridge works on propane again, we'll go back to running it on propane as we drive down the road and won't bother to turn it off when we stop for diesel. For those interested, the problem was a bad electrical connection in the thermocouple circuit. Ron >> > <Lou@GoForIt.net> wrote in message >> news:434915A3.5B2EA94C@yahoo.com... [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Ron Now that you 'know' you don't need to run it on propane or anything else, i am curious why woould you????? jmac > >> > <Lou@GoForIt.net> wrote in message > >> news:434915A3.5B2EA94C@yahoo.com... [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > jmac We prefer to be able to open the refrigerator several times during the travel day without letting all the cold out. When the refrigerator works on propane, we will usually take a morning break and get soft drinks out of the refrigerator, we may fix sandwiches for lunch and be in and out of the refrigerator, and we will often have an afternoon break and get soft drinks out of the refrigerator. When it wasn't working on propane we didn't open it during the travel day. I don't understand the big fear some seem to have over running an RV fridge on propane while going down the road. Ron snipped > We prefer to be able to open the refrigerator several times during the > travel day without letting all the cold out. When the refrigerator works on [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ron I concur with all the above plus, howinhell can one keep ice cream frozen during trips <g>? Are some suggesting we shouldn't keep frozen vegetables in the freezer? I don't believe eggs would stay cold enough for safety sake without constant cold. Leaving the fridge on while fueling is much safer than some jerk filling his plastic gas can in the truck bed, with it sitting on the plastic bed liner. Even though safety regs want you to put the can on the ground and fill it there, many think nothing of filling plastic cans in the bed, or in a trunk. I wonder if the person(s) I describe would scold me for leaving my fridge on? I wonder how many readers have done the same? Hugh > I concur with all the above plus, howinhell can one keep ice > cream frozen during trips <g>? Are some suggesting we [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the same? > Hugh If you and Ron keep this crap up, you're going to blow up entire states. Blow them clear off the map. Kill thousands. Little girls with kittens. Little boys with baseball gloves. All gone, just because you want cold pop and frozen ice cream. Selfish, thoughtless, uncaring. :-) Signature"Free enterprise has done more to reduce poverty than all the government programs dreamed up by Democrats." --Ronald Reagan http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com > > I concur with all the above plus, howinhell can one keep ice > > cream frozen during trips <g>? Are some suggesting we [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Little boys with baseball gloves. All gone, just because you want cold pop > and frozen ice cream. Selfish, thoughtless, uncaring. :-) If I am going to do all that I'll have to get a bigger propane tank! ;-) Ron >>I concur with all the above plus, howinhell can one keep ice >>cream frozen during trips <g>? Are some suggesting we [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Little boys with baseball gloves. All gone, just because you want cold pop > and frozen ice cream. Selfish, thoughtless, uncaring. :-) Hee hee hee hee, snork <lol>. Hugh who shows he loves ice cream >I concur with all the above plus, howinhell can one keep ice >cream frozen during trips <g>? Are some suggesting we [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >leaving my fridge on? I wonder how many readers have done >the same? I don't think we've ever bothered turning the frig off before refilling. Of course we're always at the diesel pump and we generally like places with lots of room around the diesel pumps, and since the frig is on the driver's side there usually isn't anyone fueling nearby. Besides, whenever we travel the winds follow us so pooling vapors are highly unlikely! >Lou@GoForIt.net wrote: >> >For some reason yet to be determined my Norcold in my coach will only work >> >on AC from the gen or shore power or LP. When I turn on the inverter when [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Lou You may be thinking of the relatively few tunnels around the country that prohibit propane use because their exits are higher than some other part of the tunnel. I have heard of them, but in three years of continuous travel, I haven't encountered one yet. Don't worry. Be happy. SignatureDD > >Lou@GoForIt.net wrote: > You may be thinking of the relatively few tunnels around the country > that prohibit propane use because their exits are higher than some other > part of the tunnel. I have heard of them, but in three years of > continuous travel, I haven't encountered one yet. > > Don't worry. Be happy. I guess you don't travel the east coast. First comes to mind is Bay Bridge and Tunnels from Norfolk to Cape Henry. Btw, the last trip with the coach and toad was a $28 toll due to the extra two axles on the toad. Leanne W1WXS >"Leanne" <leanne@4islc.net> wrote: >> >Lou@GoForIt.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Leanne W1WXS You're right, we have spent very little time on the east coast. (Do you know about the humidity out there? <g>) I hope the OP didn't interpret my "I haven't encountered one yet" to mean "they aren't out there". Sloppy communication on my part. SignatureDD >>> Lou@GoForIt.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > trip with the coach and toad was a $28 toll due to the extra two > axles on the toad. Ya, but on that one all you have to do is turn the propane off at the tank for the trip through the tunnel. Right now we're just short of 45,000 miles, 32 states, 3 Canadian Provinces, and that tunnel/bridge will be our first that doesn't allow propane on. Signature"Free enterprise has done more to reduce poverty than all the government programs dreamed up by Democrats." --Ronald Reagan http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com >>>> Lou@GoForIt.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >32 states, 3 Canadian Provinces, and that tunnel/bridge will be our first >that doesn't allow propane on. There are several on the east coast. The Lincoln Tunnel doesn't allow, use the George Washington Bridge, upper level. The Ft. McHenry tunnel and the I895 tunnel in Baltimore prohibit propane, use I 695 east and the Key bridge, toll or I695 west, longer. The Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel, and all of the Hampton Roads bridges require propane to be turned off. All the other tunnels I know of are through mountains and make no restrictions on propane in small quantities. (Less than required to be placarded.) If any knows of another tunnel on the east coast that restricts propane, list it here. SignatureFrank Tabor >>>>> Lou@GoForIt.net wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > If any knows of another tunnel on the east coast that restricts > propane, list it here. Best thing to do when they hit you to turn off your propane is say, "No hablo ingles, senor." Steve >>>>>> Lou@GoForIt.net wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >Steve Se hable hoozgow, moron? SignatureFrank Tabor > Se hable hoozgow, moron? Se hable "humor impaired", tonto? It's a joke, son, ahhhhhh said. Ahhhhhhhh said, a joke. Foghorn Leghorn Of course, if the first one bounced off that dense head of yours, this will, too. Sigh........ > also instead of using the inverter while ON THE ROAD, can I run the fridge > on LP instead of power? Is is advisable or safe to do this? Yes, its done by everyone. Just remember you have propane running when you pull into a gas station to fill up. or safety's sake, you should shut down the propane before pulling up to the pumps although few people actually do. Okay so what is the proper procedure for this? Is it as simple as walking up to the fridge and pressing off or is it more involved? Thanks. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >> also instead of using the inverter while ON THE ROAD, can I run the >> fridge [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > or safety's sake, you should shut down the propane before pulling up to > the pumps although few people actually do. > Okay so what is the proper procedure for this? > > Is it as simple as walking up to the fridge and pressing off or is it more > involved? > > Thanks. Mine TURNS to OFF, but yes, whatever stops the little burner. |
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