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Winter Storage?

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C & L Steiner - 21 Nov 2005 21:48 GMT
We're newbies, just bought our first RV this past spring (a '93 BornFree),
and now that the weather is getting cold we're looking for reasonably priced
indoor space in the Northeast.

What do you folks do, and does anyone know of a place?  We live in New York,
on Long Island.

Thanks!
Cary
Bob V - 22 Nov 2005 02:42 GMT
: We're newbies, just bought our first RV this past spring (a '93 BornFree),
: and now that the weather is getting cold we're looking for reasonably priced
: indoor space in the Northeast.
:
: What do you folks do, and does anyone know of a place?  We live in New York,
: on Long Island.

Don't know what your temperatures are getting down to, but the first thing
you should probably consider, if you haven't already done it, is getting it
winterized so you don't wind up with frozen lines.

-Bob
C & L Steiner - 22 Nov 2005 03:30 GMT
Thanks, Bob -- got it winterized on Saturday!

Now we need to keep it somewhere...

> : We're newbies, just bought our first RV this past spring (a '93
> BornFree),
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>
> -Bob
JerryD(upstateNY) - 22 Nov 2005 14:33 GMT
>What do you folks do, and does anyone know of a place?  We live in New
>York,
on Long Island.<

Type "RV storage on Long Island" (without the quotes) into Google and call
some of the places listed.
You might be better taking the RV on the ferry to CT and going
to.............

Bolton Notch RV Storage
17 Howard Rd
Bolton, CT 06043-7428
(860) 645-8233

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Thanks!
Cary

Jayseebee - 22 Nov 2005 22:58 GMT
While we are on the subject was wondering what folks pay out there for
storage. We're up in SE Wisconsin. We rent a space inside a pole barn
with gravel flooring from a friend and pay 45 a month for a 33 ft long
fiver. Outside in the area here is 35 a month and the most expensive we
had was inside a pole barn which was heated and had concrete floor for
90 a month..tks

JCB

> We're newbies, just bought our first RV this past spring (a '93 BornFree),
> and now that the weather is getting cold we're looking for reasonably priced
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> Thanks!
> Cary
William Boyd - 23 Nov 2005 01:21 GMT
> While we are on the subject was wondering what folks pay out there for
> storage. We're up in SE Wisconsin. We rent a space inside a pole barn
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>
> JCB
I would consider when you say heated, would mean keeping the
temperature above freezing. If that is the case, I think the 90 a
months was the best deal. How long do you store your rv, around 4
months I would guess. But does these storage facilities let you keep
power on the converter so you can maintain the battery up. I would
think they would, if not you should take it home and put it on a
trickle charger. I have a Schumacher, Ship'N Shore, 10 amp automatic
charger, that has been maintaining a deep cycle battery for my storm
shelter for around five years. That battery Incidently is stored
outside in a battery box, but doubt that it has been subjected to
freezing temperatures. The charger was bought at WalMart back when
they were selling that brand. They still sell them but looks like
they are changing over to Black and Decker. More than likely does
not make any difference, all of them are made in China.

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Jayseebee - 23 Nov 2005 03:45 GMT
Yes the heated one (year before last) was above freezing only but quite
pleasant but hard to get access to sometimes. This place we are in we
have a key and full access whenever to the trailer and electricity for
doing trip prep work, etc. I normally pull the battery and maintain it
at home here (easier to charge and check water levels).
We brought it in Nov 1st and will pull it out in March? If we can get
out in Feb maybe then? We do campground hosting and were on the road for
7 1/2 months last year. This year only 5 months. I have to start lining
up host jobs again real quick for the southwest(NM,AZ,TX) area for
Spring and then have several here in Wisconsin that we have been doing
for couple years that take the summer months.

JCB
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> I would consider when you say heated, would mean keeping the temperature
> above freezing. If that is the case, I think the 90 a months was the
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> More than likely does not make any difference, all of them are made in
> China.
C & L Steiner - 23 Nov 2005 12:32 GMT
Okay, while we're on the subject of battery maintenance (about which I know
nothing!), we have the truck battery and two house batteries.  Assuming I
store the rig far from home, what do I need to do?  I thought disconnecting
the batteries would be enough, but now I'm not sure.
William Boyd - 23 Nov 2005 16:35 GMT
> Okay, while we're on the subject of battery maintenance (about which I know
> nothing!), we have the truck battery and two house batteries.  Assuming I
> store the rig far from home, what do I need to do?  I thought disconnecting
> the batteries would be enough, but now I'm not sure.

Apparently you have a MH and three times the battery up-keep
problems. Temperature of storage area can make a difference.
If it gets down to freezing and below maintaining the charge is more
critical. I have never had an RV where I failed to maintain shore
power, just not my way of preserving my investment. Seldom had
indoor storage though, a carport awning over a TT one time. But with
each year it seems as though they build these things taller and
wider. I built a barn with sizing in mind of storing an RV some time
in the future. When it came time to get a new 5er, I could not get
just any model, most was to tall.
I would take the batteries out and bring them home, buy a dog house
for them with a door on it, put a light bulb and three stage battery
charger on them. Of course this is after you have winterized the MH.

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b b - 23 Nov 2005 20:16 GMT
> I would take the batteries out and bring them home, buy a dog house
> for them with a door on it, put a light bulb and three stage battery
> charger on them.

You don't have to keep them warm if you keep them charged.  My car does
not have a battery heater in it.....and I leave it outside all winter,
only warming and charging the battery when I drive it.

My opinion,
Barrie B
William Boyd - 24 Nov 2005 00:09 GMT
>>I would take the batteries out and bring them home, buy a dog house
>>for them with a door on it, put a light bulb and three stage battery
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> My opinion,
> Barrie B
Temperature has a big effect on the battery, the colder it gets the
less amps it has to offer. That is why they put heat blankets on the
batteries that has a great load expected. My Dodge Ram has two gp27
batteries with heat blankets on them, came that way. But back to the
dog house and light bulb, naturally it would depend on how cold it
is expected to get. I am one for putting my best foot forward, or
better to say some times I tend to over do it. I spent three winters
up in Newfoundland and most of the time there was the normal cold
weather. But on a few occasions it got down there where it froze the
salt water bay and few cars would start. I did not have a charger on
the battery but I did put a domestic heating pad around it, many
times I was the only vehicle to pull out for work.

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Rich256 - 24 Nov 2005 01:50 GMT
> >>I would take the batteries out and bring them home, buy a dog house
> >>for them with a door on it, put a light bulb and three stage battery
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> the battery but I did put a domestic heating pad around it, many
> times I was the only vehicle to pull out for work.

I totally agree with what you say, but in this situation we are talking
about storage and not use.   I grew up in Northern Minnesota and know
exactly what you are saying.  The greatest thing yet was going from 6 to 12
volts.

But when stored, for exactly the same reason that the power drops, the
chemical activity slows and the battery life could be extended.  But again
it must be charged or it mayl freeze and crack the case.
Rich256 - 23 Nov 2005 20:18 GMT
> > Okay, while we're on the subject of battery maintenance (about which I know
> > nothing!), we have the truck battery and two house batteries.  Assuming I
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> for them with a door on it, put a light bulb and three stage battery
> charger on them. Of course this is after you have winterized the MH.

If you keep them charged you don't need to keep them warm.  A cold battery
has less chemical action and therefore will last longer as long as it
doesn't freeze.

At 50% state of charge the freezing point is -34F (-36.7C)
At 75% it is -55F (-48.3C) and at 100% it is -75F (-59.4C)

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Jon Griffin - 23 Nov 2005 15:00 GMT
>out in Feb maybe then? We do campground hosting and were on the road for
>7 1/2 months last year. This year only 5 months. I have to start lining
>up host jobs again real quick for the southwest(NM,AZ,TX) area for
>Spring and then have several here in Wisconsin that we have been doing
>for couple years that take the summer months.

If you do campground hosting in the SW in the spring, why not store it
in the SW out of the freeze zone?

Jon

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Jayseebee - 23 Nov 2005 16:33 GMT
We actually had that thought cross our mind (especially with fuel
costs). But take spring this year, we did not have a job lined up but
ended up going to KY and NC for two months to help a relative. We like
it closer to home incase you get the opportunity or urg to take off and
for maint and security checks, etc.

JCB

> If you do campground hosting in the SW in the spring, why not store it
> in the SW out of the freeze zone?
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William Boyd - 23 Nov 2005 16:42 GMT
> We actually had that thought cross our mind (especially with fuel
> costs). But take spring this year, we did not have a job lined up but
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>
> JCB
Why don't you make the security checks back at the house and just
stay in the SW with the RV. Drive the toad home on occasions, just
think of all the cold weather you will be missing.

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Peter Pan - 24 Nov 2005 06:47 GMT
>> If you do campground hosting in the SW in the spring, why not store
>> it in the SW out of the freeze zone?
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>
> JCB

Depends on your situation.. I Lived in Baltimore, but stored the RV near Las
Vegas... Great excuse to go visit it in the middle of winter.. (Can't shovel
the 2 FT of snow today, I'm flying to Vegas to visit my RV :)
 
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