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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / December 2005

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L. C. Clower - 05 Dec 2005 20:34 GMT
I plan to leave my TT on the Texas coast this spring, summer and fall.
It has your standard Dometic roof mounted A/C with controls on the A/C
itself.
Is there any reasonable way to wire in a thermostat and start-stop relay for
the fan motor?  TIA LC
ninebal310@aol.com - 07 Dec 2005 12:58 GMT
Since nobody else has attempted to help you, I'll do the best I can in
hopes of someone else stating I'm wrong.

Depends on what you call "reasonable". The fan motor and the compressor
motor are separate, so, they can be wired anyway you want it.

You can bypass the original wiring entirely, or you can just put a
thermstatic activated relay to the AC power.

Hank
William Boyd - 07 Dec 2005 14:38 GMT
> I plan to leave my TT on the Texas coast this spring, summer and fall.
> It has your standard Dometic roof mounted A/C with controls on the A/C
> itself.
> Is there any reasonable way to wire in a thermostat and start-stop relay for
> the fan motor?  TIA LC

I seen this earlier but could not tell what you wanted to do.
If you want the fan only to come on and shut off on temperature
demand. I suggest you look at an attic exhaust fan thermostat that
you could wire in to the basic ac connection. Set the ac on "fan
only", if it has that capability or disconnect the compressor wire.

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HD in NY - 07 Dec 2005 14:51 GMT
> I plan to leave my TT on the Texas coast this spring, summer and fall.
> It has your standard Dometic roof mounted A/C with controls on the A/C
> itself.
> Is there any reasonable way to wire in a thermostat and start-stop relay for
> the fan motor?  TIA LC

I don't see any benefit to what you are proposing. If you
are looking for a way to circulate air in the TT and have
access to ac power, it would make more sense to install a FF
in a roof vent.
Hugh
Steve - 08 Dec 2005 00:05 GMT
With a standard Dometic unit, you turn the unit to High/Med/Low on one dial
and set the thermostat with the other dial; the fan stays on constantly and
only the compressor kicks on or off depending on the temperature.  I think
what LC wants is for both the fan and compressor to turn on and off with
temperature similar to a wheeless house system.

It's not as easy as just killing the power to the whole unit for 2 reasons:
1. there has to be a delay between the compressor turning off and the fan
turning off to prevent condensation since the coil remains cold for a few
minutes after the compressor stops
2. there has to be an additional delay circuit or hysteresis control to keep
the compressor from rapid cycling on and off if the temperature hovers right
around the setpoint.

Most wheeless house systems have this control built into the furnace control
board and not the thermostat, so using a normal thermostat won't work. If
you're handy with electrons, you could make your own setup utilizing a
temperature switch, delay-on-make relay, and delay-on-break relay.

Steve

> > I plan to leave my TT on the Texas coast this spring, summer and fall.
> > It has your standard Dometic roof mounted A/C with controls on the A/C
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> in a roof vent.
> Hugh
HD in NY - 08 Dec 2005 03:39 GMT
> With a standard Dometic unit, you turn the unit to High/Med/Low on one dial
> and set the thermostat with the other dial; the fan stays on constantly and
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>
> Steve
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Okay. But explain why my rv ac works like this. Putting the
fan switch in the auto mode, the fan and compressor come on
then shut off at the same time. No lag between compressor
shutdown and fan shut down.
Hugh
Steve - 08 Dec 2005 10:20 GMT
The manufacturer wanted to save $1.50 on the circuitry.
You end up with an A/C unit that's prone to condensation and wastes a minute
or two's worth of cold air.
Steve

> > With a standard Dometic unit, you turn the unit to High/Med/Low on one dial
> > and set the thermostat with the other dial; the fan stays on constantly and
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> shutdown and fan shut down.
> Hugh
HD in NY - 08 Dec 2005 16:10 GMT
> The manufacturer wanted to save $1.50 on the circuitry.
> You end up with an A/C unit that's prone to condensation and wastes a minute
> or two's worth of cold air.
> Steve
snipped

I replaced the thermostat with a Hunter programmable. The
Dometic analog one worked the same. This is the typical roof
mounted rv unit and the cold air starts right away. Since
it's mounted on the roof and cold air "falls" down, I doubt
I'm losing any <g>. The condensation doesn't wind up in the
overhead ductwork, it winds up outside.

This isn't like a typical home central air system with long
runs to all parts of the house. It seams like a "no problem"
to me.
Hugh
 
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