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classic 70s travel trailer??

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zvx-JESS-zvx - 01 Jan 2006 21:11 GMT
hello everyone. any advise on towing a 25f tt loaded; with a 1989 3/4
chevy sub with dist hitch on mostly straightaways ' without electric
brakes working ' . one way 200 miles. will it be safe? any advise
welcomed. thanks!!! jess...
William Boyd - 01 Jan 2006 21:46 GMT
> hello everyone. any advise on towing a 25f tt loaded; with a 1989 3/4
> chevy sub with dist hitch on mostly straightaways ' without electric
> brakes working ' . one way 200 miles. will it be safe? any advise
> welcomed. thanks!!! jess...

It has it's risks, but then when one has to take risks like that and can
adequately compensate, I don't see much wrong. Depending on what state ,
you might be breaking the law and any accident what so ever will garner
the majority of the blame.
Why are the electric brakes not working? You do have a break controller
in the tow vehicle don't you?

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Frank Tabor - 01 Jan 2006 22:06 GMT
I see where, William Boyd managed to write:

>> hello everyone. any advise on towing a 25f tt loaded; with a 1989 3/4
>> chevy sub with dist hitch on mostly straightaways ' without electric
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>Why are the electric brakes not working? You do have a break controller
>in the tow vehicle don't you?

He's breaking the law in every state.
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William Boyd - 02 Jan 2006 20:49 GMT
> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
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> He's breaking the law in every state.
NOT SO! He must be in the state before he is breaking the law! SO! IT
DEPENDS ON WHAT STATE HE IS IN, HE MIGHT BE BREAKING THE LAW. ;-)

Taint Funny McGee.  :-(

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Frank Tabor - 02 Jan 2006 20:54 GMT
I see where, William Boyd managed to write:

>> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
>>
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>
>Taint Funny McGee.  :-(

It's against the law in every state to tow a trailer that big without
brakes.
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William Boyd - 02 Jan 2006 21:37 GMT
> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
>
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> It's against the law in every state to tow a trailer that big without
> brakes.
"YOU ARE ONLY BREAKING THE LAW IN THE STATE YOU ARE IN" In addition the
law is not based on the length of trailer in all states, some it is
based on weight. ;-)

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Frank Tabor - 02 Jan 2006 21:47 GMT
I see where, William Boyd managed to write:

>> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
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>law is not based on the length of trailer in all states, some it is
>based on weight. ;-)

In all states, the weight is what determines brakes, and a 25 foot
trailer is going to exceed the minimum weight requirement for every
state.

He is illegal in every and any state he enters.
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William Boyd - 02 Jan 2006 21:40 GMT
> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
>
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> It's against the law in every state to tow a trailer that big without
> brakes.
BESIDES YOU ARE WRONG ALL ACROSS THE BOARD. :-(

http://www.roadmasterinc.com/laws.htm

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Frank Tabor - 02 Jan 2006 21:49 GMT
I see where, William Boyd managed to write:

>> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
>>
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>
>http://www.roadmasterinc.com/laws.htm

Nope, a 25 foot trailer is going to weigh enough empty to require
brakes by it self.  
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William Boyd - 02 Jan 2006 22:11 GMT
> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
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> Nope, a 25 foot trailer is going to weigh enough empty to require
> brakes by it self.  

Frank you just keep putting your foot in it. Your playing a guessing
game now, The law is the law and it is not based on if and or but, it is
weight and nothing else. By the way did you take note about how long or
heavy the trailer is in KY or MO to require brakes.
And in what state was the OP going to tow this classic 200 miles.
 Gotcha! ;-)

HARDIE HAR HAR! ;-)

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Jim Redelfs - 03 Jan 2006 03:50 GMT
> HARDIE HAR HAR! ;-)

You're BAAAAAAAD!!

Obviously, you're playing to the WRONG straight man.

           :)
JR
William Boyd - 03 Jan 2006 04:46 GMT
>>HARDIE HAR HAR! ;-)
>
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>             :)
> JR
GEEEZs I dont know if he is straight or gay, I just know he is wrong. :-)

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Frank Tabor - 03 Jan 2006 13:38 GMT
I see where, William Boyd managed to write:

>> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
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>
>HARDIE HAR HAR! ;-)

There are three states that don't require brakes, however they require
that you stop the vehicle within certain legal limits which can't be
achieved with a 3/4 ton suburban and a loaded 25' trailer with no
brakes.  So if it won't stop, then it violates the law.

So once again you have demonstrated to the world your vast store of
ignorance, and confirmed to the world that you are still a f.cking
idiot.

The only thing you GOT is your pitiful little dick hanging out for the
world to stomp on, again.
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William Boyd - 03 Jan 2006 18:27 GMT
> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
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> The only thing you GOT is your pitiful little dick hanging out for the
> world to stomp on, again.

SURE CAN TELL WHEN FRANK HAS LOST HIS COOL AND THE ARGUMENT. You
wouldn't just happen to have a reference to those laws you proclaim to
exist. In addition one would have to demonstrate such an inability to
stop before he can be sited as breaking the law.

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Frank Tabor - 03 Jan 2006 23:34 GMT
I see where, William Boyd managed to write:

>SURE CAN TELL WHEN FRANK HAS LOST HIS COOL AND THE ARGUMENT. You
>wouldn't just happen to have a reference to those laws you proclaim to
>exist. In addition one would have to demonstrate such an inability to
>stop before he can be sited as breaking the law.

I guess you left RORT because you got tired of all the folks over
there telling you what a f.cking idiot you are, so I guess these folks
over here in alt.rv will have to find out what an idiot and liar your
are for themselves.

Folks, whatever bird brain Boyd suggests you do, do the opposite.  Or
at least be sure someone else is willing to back him up.
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William Boyd - 04 Jan 2006 00:07 GMT
> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
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> Folks, whatever bird brain Boyd suggests you do, do the opposite.  Or
> at least be sure someone else is willing to back him up.

Sorry Frank, If I could figure out a way to loosen the knot around your
nuts that your shorts have wound up in, I would, but they are probably
to nasty any way.
The reason I stopped posting in RORT was strictly subject matter. Even
the mentally challenged individuals such as you, at least most of the
time, stay on subject here even if you know little about it.
As for my suggestions as what to do in a situation, it will be based on
practical experience, of which I do have an abundance. Such as the first
turn signals and break controllers I have experience with go back to the
clamp on the steering column. Quite some time ago. But at the same time
I do not profess to know all models in between.

OH! Yes, Frank I doubt that you will be able to salvage that pair of
shorts you have on, I would just throw them away. ;-)

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Frank Tabor - 04 Jan 2006 00:37 GMT
I see where, William Boyd managed to write:

>> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
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>OH! Yes, Frank I doubt that you will be able to salvage that pair of
>shorts you have on, I would just throw them away. ;-)

Oh I'm so glad you are so intimate with my nuts.  I thought it was
crabs, but it was you chewing on them all time.

Lying mutherfucker.
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William Boyd - 04 Jan 2006 01:37 GMT
>>OH! Yes, Frank I doubt that you will be able to salvage that pair of
>>shorts you have on, I would just throw them away. ;-)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Lying mutherfucker.

WOW! Frank, the language, do I have you in my spell, looks like it. You
should not have been concentrating on the magic watch so hard. This
reminds me of some thing that happened with a few people with your
mentality.
   As the story goes;

It was entertainment night at the senior center and the Amazing Claude
was  topping the bill. Frank and his people came from miles around to
see the famed hypnotist do his stuff. As Claude went to the front of the
meeting room, he announced,  "Unlike most hypnotists who invite two or
three people up here to be put into a trance, I intend to hypnotize each
and every member of the audience." You see Claude was also a good judge
of mentality.

The excitement was almost electric as Claude withdrew a beautiful
antique pocket watch from his coat.  "I want you each to keep your eye
on this antique watch. It's a very special watch. It's been in my family
for six generations.

He began to swing the watch gently back and forth while quietly
chanting, "Watch the watch, watch the watch, watch the watch..." The
crowd became mesmerized as the watch swayed back and forth, light
gleaming off  its polished surface. Hundreds of pairs of eyes followed
the swaying watch, until, suddenly,-----  it slipped from the
hypnotist's fingers and fell to the floor, breaking into a hundred pieces.

sh.t!" said the Hypnotist...

It took three weeks to clean up the senior center

So, you see Frank what can happen when you concentrate on the wrong
thing, thought you would have learned by now. You might want to think
about how you can get those shorts clean, seems as though you must be
going through several pair.
But could be crabs after all, or splinters from that slippery slope you
cant seem to quit sliding down.

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Frank Tabor - 04 Jan 2006 17:47 GMT
I see where, William Boyd managed to write:

A bunch of idiocy proving once again he is the village idiot.
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Will Sill - 04 Jan 2006 21:34 GMT
I see where Frank Tabor <ftabor@gmail.com> contributed:
>I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
>A bunch of idiocy proving once again he is the village idiot.

Careful, or he'll threaten to come to VA and kick yer a.s.
Assuming he can find Virginia.

Will Sill
The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
William Boyd - 04 Jan 2006 22:48 GMT
> I see where Frank Tabor <ftabor@gmail.com> contributed:
>
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> Will Sill
> The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill

WILL I havent checked it out yet but I think he just might be in the
greater north west. He is about as smart as you are when he gets pissed
off isn't he. But dont worry I still know where I can stand in Pa. and
be in Wyoming at the same time. KD3XR...That's a Roger iN a Cross Way
OR.  Just dont have much humor, gotta have humor along with the basic
knowledge of the subject in question, Rec Vehicles.
By the way Will I have a new leg now and that things a dandy, does any
thing I want it to.

73

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Frank Tabor - 05 Jan 2006 00:56 GMT
I see where, William Boyd managed to write:

>WILL I havent checked it out yet but I think he just might be in the
>greater north west. He is about as smart as you are when he gets pissed
>off isn't he.

That makes us 100 times smarter than the village idiot, bird brain
Boyd.
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William Boyd - 04 Jan 2006 22:05 GMT
> I see where, William Boyd managed to write:
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> A bunch of idiocy proving once again he is the village idiot.

HAY! FRANK! (Raaphorst) Did you ever figure out how much stopping
distance you need?

I think it might be some where around 80 feet if he is going at about
30mph, or 128 feet if he is going 40 mph. Any one knowing they do not
have brakes might not go any faster than that, with only 200 miles to
go. This is the legal speeds and distances in at least one state. But of
course it might not be the one he is going to tow in.
His weight might be legal with out brakes in Mass @ 10,000# or Alaska @
5,000# or the other two states that dont require them at all as long as
you can stop in a given distance. But one major thing has been left out
of the equation and that is, "you must be able to stop in the standard
vehicle distance weather you have a trailer with or with out brakes."

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Jim Redelfs - 03 Jan 2006 03:48 GMT
>>  He's breaking the law in every state.

> NOT SO! He must be in the state before he is breaking the law! SO! IT
> DEPENDS ON WHAT STATE HE IS IN, HE MIGHT BE BREAKING THE LAW. ;-)
>
> Taint Funny McGee.  :-(

ARGH!!  [ROFL]

Sorry, but that WAS funny!

Hehehehe!
            :)
JR
Tom  J - 01 Jan 2006 21:46 GMT
> hello everyone. any advise on towing a 25f tt loaded; with a 1989
> 3/4
> chevy sub with dist hitch on mostly straightaways ' without electric
> brakes working ' . one way 200 miles. will it be safe? any advise
> welcomed. thanks!!! jess...

It's against highway regulations in every state, and your life depends
on you having brakes.
2 good reasons to have the brakes connected before towing that oldie.

Tom J
JerryD(upstateNY) - 01 Jan 2006 21:48 GMT
>>hello everyone. any advise on towing a 25f tt loaded; with a 1989 3/4
>>chevy sub with dist hitch on mostly straightaways ' without electric
>>brakes working ' . one way 200 miles. will it be safe? any advise
>>welcomed. thanks!!! jess...<<

Stay off the interstates and don't go over 30 MPH and you MIGHT make it.

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Hunter - 01 Jan 2006 22:44 GMT
>chevy sub with dist hitch on mostly straightaways ' without electric
>brakes working ' . one way 200 miles. will it be safe? any advise
>welcomed. thanks!!! jess...

It's not safe and it's not legal.

next question.

Hunter
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Jim Redelfs - 02 Jan 2006 04:11 GMT
> any advise on towing a 25f tt loaded

Make sure it's loaded properly and is hitched to a tow vehicle.

> with a 1989 3/4 chevy sub with dist hitch on mostly straightaways

What does it have on curves?   [ducking]   :)

> without electric brakes working

Oops!  There goes the worm can opener.   <sigh>

> one way 200 miles. will it be safe?

Yes.  Regardless of the condition of the trailer, tow vehicle or your
trailer-towing experience and skill, or lack thereof, you should be OK.  Have
at it.   <big grin>

<ahem>  Seriously, yours is a "loaded" question with WAAAAY too many unknown
factors and variables.

In your favor, it is a 3/4-ton Suburban, probably the all-time best tow
vehicle for all but the largest of travel trailers.

Assuming (hoping) the Suburban's brakes are good, the biggest problem you
could face is an emergency/panic stop.  Quadruple your following distance and
make the trip during a period of LIGHT traffic.  2:00 A.M. might be best.

Good luck.  You might need it.

         :)
JR
zvx-JESS-zvx - 02 Jan 2006 09:03 GMT
ok. i'll just have to clear the spider webs and service the magnets.
thanks everyone and; a happy prosperous new year to all.
 
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